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Old 05-01-2008, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can it be my Hard drive that's not letting my comp boot up?

  • Here's what happened : I bought a new Sapphire X1650PRO 512MB DDR2 512MB AGP 8x/4x from newegg.com. I've done plently of research before buying it ; for example, i know my D865PERL intel MOBO can support a .8/ 1.5 voltage 4x/8x video card. i have a 350 PSU, which is enough for the x1650PRO.
  • I put in this video card..i hook it up with the 4 pin power connector with this 3 way plug thing it has..one 4 PIN to the video card, to the hard drive, and to the PSU.

You must know that my monitor has two types of led light that indicates standby mode/off OR on. The yellow light means it's on, the green light means it's off.

Well, after putting in the AGP X1650PRO into the AGP slot, very securely, i TURN on my computer, and my monitor just shows black. It has nothing on the screen. The LED LIGHT of the monitor is YELLOW (meaning its on standby or the computer isn't booting)

My monitor is WHITE if it is not connected to the video card. However, when i plug back in the monitor to the VGA, it is black, indicating that, in FACT, my video card does work. It does this with both my OLD video card AND <new> video card.

So, i'm thinking, wth is wrong? I tried it again..nothing.. my monitor is acting as if it is not reading a computer.



I know my monitor isn't broken because i have also tried putting in my old video card..my comp still doesnt work. What do i mean by it doesnt work? i mean even when i turn on the monitor, it just stays at the yellow light instead of turning green and botting up like normal.

Here's what we have : i insert in my old video card after that to determine if it was the NEW, X1650PRO that was damaged and not letting any display on the screen come on. WRONG. Because with my old video card, my computer isn't booting at all anymore either!

To investigate furthur, i checked my hard disk drive. Because, it could've been that my HDD is dead. But i don't think so. Because i put my ear up to it while the computer is on, and i can hear the FAN and MOTOR still running inside the Hard Drive.

My computer usually makes a "BEEP" noise, if it boots up SUCCESSFuLLY ( which it does NOT anymore)
  • Is having a beep noise on a normality that indicates successful initiation ?
  • Because i have no more BEEPING noise.

Yes, my MOBO led light (which is green) is STILL ON whenver i turn the computer on. If it wasn't, i'd be sure my MOBO was dead.


Everything is plugged, secure, all that jib jab. Ive tuirned it on and off thousands of times n still no green light on the monitor and sucessful boot up.

You might think that, hm maybe it's my PSU that CANNOT handle my new x1650PRO?>? Nope. I thought so too. Becuase my computer does not successfully boot up anymore EVEN with my OLD Radeon 9250 AGP.

So, after all of this, i've come down to two possiblities. My MOTHERBOARD OR HARD DRIVE is dead.

Remember, i know it's not my new video card that's the problem. Because my computer wont even boot up properly anymore with the OLD video card. It;s like, after hooking up my new vid card, my computer decides not to boot up anymore. even with the old VGA. Yes,
Two questions must be answered. Yes, everything seems to be running fine, all fans running nicely, cpu running with heat sink and fan running, ect..cd drives and DVD drive running..ect
  1. Even if the MOTHERBOARD's LED light is still on and stable, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IT'S DEAD OR SHORT CIRCUITED OR w/e anyway?

  1. Even if my HARD DRIVE MOTOR IS STILL WORKING AND SPINNING, is there STIL A POSSIBILITY THAT MY HARD DRIVE IS DEAD OR w/e?
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Can it be my Hard drive that's not letting my comp boot up?

Hi,

just to answer your questions, it is yes and yes.

run some tests on your hard drive to be sure. as for the motherboard, if you see POST you are still on the 'OK' side. but if not, it could be your motherboard or your video card. so if you are sure it is not your video card, then it could be the motherboard.

by the way, have you tested your monitor to work on another PC? as i read here, you tested your 2 video cards using the same monitor. i am thinking if ever the monitor is malfunctioning, then how will you know unless you used another one in its place or you tried using that monitor on a different PC.

just my 2 cents... i hope it made sense...
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Can it be my Hard drive that's not letting my comp boot up?

Actually, i'm quite aware of testing my monitor on another PC. The fact is, it is totally useless. Because i have led lights on my computer case that indicate the computer is proccessing and working ( it's red light that usually constantly flashes as the processor is working and all that). Now , there is no red light, period.
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Re: Can it be my Hard drive that's not letting my comp boot up?

your psu needs to be putting out a min of 18amps on the 12v+ line
this is what you need to check not the wattage
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your psu needs to be putting out a min of 18amps on the 12v+ line
this is what you need to check not the wattage
That doesn't matter anyway though..because like i said, my computer won't boot up even with the old video card that i have been using for two years with the same 350 Watt PSU.
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putting the new one in may have overloaded the psu see if you can borrow one to try in it around 450w
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putting the new one in may have overloaded the psu see if you can borrow one to try in it around 450w
Overload? You sure? Even with my old video card the power supply has overloaded to the point where the psu has become defective and cannot even boot up my computer properly?

If that's the case, i bought a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152032 ..has 21 amps on the 12v rail. Hope it works

If it doesnt, i'll assume that my mobo is dead. And have to pay restock fee and shipping for the psu and video card for newegg

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i advised to borrow before buying
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Lol blah i ordered it because i dont know anyone who could lend me a 450 watt psu.

But anyways, while im waiting for it, ive done some investigation and my old PSU only has 15 amps on the 12v rail!! no wonder. And on sapphire's forums it says like 20-25 amps are needed to power the x1650PRO 512mb video card.

They also said that having an underpowered PSU might damage the motherboard. So, if this new PSU that i get from newegg does not boot up my computer, it's bascially my mistake for underpowering my computer with the wrong AMP Power supply and thus damaging my MOBO.

So when i get my new power supply from new egg, i'll post back on the forums for the results.
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if it does'nt power it up it's more likely because the raidmax is low quality rubbish
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if it does'nt power it up it's more likely because the raidmax is low quality rubbish
Shouldn't be..it has a decent amount of positive reviews. One of the guys on the review says he powered up a nvidia 8800 with 16 fans (before it died!) but we'll see. Not expecting the X1650PRO to be on the same power level as the 8800 GT, so based upon that, it should the PSU should be enough. But The reviews, are after all not always right. I'm being stingy and buying the cheap raidmax though lol

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