[SOLVED] Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB

MysteryGoat · 04-12-2008, 02:35 PM

I'm installing a new hard drive for someone. They bought a SATA HDD but only have IDE sockets on the MB so I bought a converter for them. The IDE drive needs to stay master as it has all the critical information on it and I don't really want to have to reinstall everything on the new drive. The problem is I can't get both HDD's to read at the same time. Either the computer reads one or the other, or depending on where i place the pin connector neither. I worked for three hours and I can't figure this out. I know the new HDD and converter are working because it was detected. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

**Deleted090308** · 04-13-2008, 07:53 AM

Hi

Please post brands/models of the motherboard, adapter and HDDs.

MysteryGoat · 04-13-2008, 12:20 PM

HDD - Western Digital Caviar SE16 750GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM

Converter - Rosewill RC-203 SATA to IDE Mini Vertical Bridge

All I know about the MB is that it's from Dell like the rest of the computer. I can't get a hold of them right now to find out exactly what model it is. To be honest I don't even know what model the Dell is itself.

**Deleted090308** · 04-13-2008, 02:22 PM

The adapter only supports SATA 1 (the drive is SATA 2).
Put the drive's jumper in the "Opt1" psition.

Make the "old" HDD master - hooked up at the end of the ribbon cable.

Set the jumper on the adapter to "Slave" and hook the new HDD up at the middle of the cable.

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If the computer has no SATA ports I wonder if it will be able to see more than 137GB of the drive.

MysteryGoat · 04-13-2008, 04:53 PM

It should be able to read it since the IDE drive is 160gb. I'll try the suggestion but I don't know if I'll be able to do it today. I'll update when I do. Thanks.

**Deleted090308** · 04-13-2008, 04:57 PM

OK. Please keep us updated.

MysteryGoat · 04-13-2008, 09:32 PM

Alright I was able to get over there tonight and it didn't work. I noticed something weird though. It didn't show up in the bios or my computer but it was detected in the device manager.

Also I found out the computer model, it's a Dimension 3000 and they're running XP home with SP2 if that makes any difference.

**Deleted090308** · 04-14-2008, 01:37 AM

Can you see both HDDs in Disk management?
(Right click "My computer" > choose "Manage" > Disk Management)
If so - right click the drive >> choose "New partition" and follow the wizard to format the drive.
You may have to initialize the drive first.

If not:
Try using IDE channel 2 - "borrow" the ribbon cable from the CD drive.
And/or - use another 80-wire ribbon cable.

MysteryGoat · 04-20-2008, 10:08 PM

My apologies for not replying, I haven't had the time to get on. Additionally I won't be able to try your suggestion until Wednesday. Hopefully it will work, I never even thought about disk management. I should be back on later this week with an update.

**TheShadowFl** · 04-21-2008, 06:20 AM

I just hooked up a brand new SATA2 drive on a SATA to IDE converter.
The drive was NOT seen by Windows.
I installed it on another computer with an on-board SATA port and partitioned it with FDISK and formatted it in DOS and then it was seen thru the converter.

That new drive just may need to be partitioned and formatted before using.

Just a thought.
The Shadow

MysteryGoat · 04-27-2008, 03:59 PM

I got it working! Turns out I had to initialize it in Disk Manager. Once I did that I just formatted it and it works perfectly, I can see it in the Bios now too. Thanks for all the help!

**Deleted090308** · 04-27-2008, 04:10 PM

Good news.

04-12-2008, 02:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
MysteryGoat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 OS: Win2k	[SOLVED] Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB I'm installing a new hard drive for someone. They bought a SATA HDD but only have IDE sockets on the MB so I bought a converter for them. The IDE drive needs to stay master as it has all the critical information on it and I don't really want to have to reinstall everything on the new drive. The problem is I can't get both HDD's to read at the same time. Either the computer reads one or the other, or depending on where i place the pin connector neither. I worked for three hours and I can't figure this out. I know the new HDD and converter are working because it was detected. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

04-13-2008, 07:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB Hi Please post brands/models of the motherboard, adapter and HDDs.

04-13-2008, 12:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
MysteryGoat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 OS: Win2k	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB HDD - Western Digital Caviar SE16 750GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM Converter - Rosewill RC-203 SATA to IDE Mini Vertical Bridge All I know about the MB is that it's from Dell like the rest of the computer. I can't get a hold of them right now to find out exactly what model it is. To be honest I don't even know what model the Dell is itself.

04-13-2008, 02:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB The adapter only supports SATA 1 (the drive is SATA 2). Put the drive's jumper in the "Opt1" psition. Make the "old" HDD master - hooked up at the end of the ribbon cable. Set the jumper on the adapter to "Slave" and hook the new HDD up at the middle of the cable. jump.gif If the computer has no SATA ports I wonder if it will be able to see more than 137GB of the drive.

04-13-2008, 04:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
MysteryGoat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 OS: Win2k	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB It should be able to read it since the IDE drive is 160gb. I'll try the suggestion but I don't know if I'll be able to do it today. I'll update when I do. Thanks.

04-13-2008, 04:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB OK. Please keep us updated.

04-13-2008, 09:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
MysteryGoat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 OS: Win2k	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB Alright I was able to get over there tonight and it didn't work. I noticed something weird though. It didn't show up in the bios or my computer but it was detected in the device manager. Also I found out the computer model, it's a Dimension 3000 and they're running XP home with SP2 if that makes any difference.

04-14-2008, 01:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB Can you see both HDDs in Disk management? (Right click "My computer" > choose "Manage" > Disk Management) If so - right click the drive >> choose "New partition" and follow the wizard to format the drive. You may have to initialize the drive first. If not: Try using IDE channel 2 - "borrow" the ribbon cable from the CD drive. And/or - use another 80-wire ribbon cable.

04-20-2008, 10:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
MysteryGoat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 OS: Win2k	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB My apologies for not replying, I haven't had the time to get on. Additionally I won't be able to try your suggestion until Wednesday. Hopefully it will work, I never even thought about disk management. I should be back on later this week with an update.

04-21-2008, 06:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
TheShadowFl TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 290 OS: XP-SP3, Vista Ult. 64, Win-7/64	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB I just hooked up a brand new SATA2 drive on a SATA to IDE converter. The drive was NOT seen by Windows. I installed it on another computer with an on-board SATA port and partitioned it with FDISK and formatted it in DOS and then it was seen thru the converter. That new drive just may need to be partitioned and formatted before using. Just a thought. The Shadow __________________ A person with experience is never at the mercy of a person with an argument.

04-27-2008, 03:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
MysteryGoat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 OS: Win2k	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB I got it working! Turns out I had to initialize it in Disk Manager. Once I did that I just formatted it and it works perfectly, I can see it in the Bios now too. Thanks for all the help!

04-27-2008, 04:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: Installing SATA HDD As Slave On IDE MB Good news.