Erock600

Is there another program that you recomend for cloning my HD. XXclone will not see my HDs. They are both Western digitals and both installed, the new one is formatted and set as a slave drive. I used western digitals diagnostics on them and they still wont appear on the scource lists. I even tried to use WDs HD transfering software which worked to copy my contents but the I couldnt boot from it when I changed the boot options in my start up options. I tried all sorts of configurations in the start up options with out actually physically switching the HDs. Is this needed in the end to boot? Thanx in advance. You guys are awsome.

JohnthePilot

There are other programs, but XXClone is the best of the freebies. If XXClone does not recognise your HDs, check in Disk Management to make sure the first partition of the drives are marked as "Primary" and not "Extended". Also check that all your cables are properly connected. For full details of how to run XXClone see this article.

Erock600

My Hds are connected and they they arent partitioned. The old HD has one partition that does say primary as does the new one. Does it make a difference if the old one is a FAT32 file system and the new one is a NTFS file system? Neither of them are SATA.

linderman

The file format makes no difference to XXclone


are you able to use the drives now ???? can you copy data within windows on these drives as they are configured now ?


it would help us greatly if you could give us a screenshot of your disk management console


are you familiar with diskmangement and making screenshots with MS paint ???



best regards

joe

linderman

if needed here are some guides


Here are the instructions which will allow you to post a "picture" on whats on your monitor. You can then paste your picture into any forum thread which you are being helped in. Also know as a Screen Shot.


Here Goes:

Enter what ever program or topic you wish to share with the TSF staff helping you with your thread. Common requests are Speedfan, Sensor View Pro, Disk Management & Device Manager screen shots.

A) While you have on your monitor the content you wish to share; hold down the Control Key (CTRL) on your keyboard at the same time hold down the Print Sceen Key (PRTSCN) located next to the F12 key on your keyboard (upper left of the number pad)

B) Open Microsoft Paint (start /all programs /accessories) one the edit button of the toolbar / choose paste

You should now see your monitors screen shot. You can if desired mark up your screen shot for illistration and discussion purposes, the spray paint is the most common tool used for that. After you are done altering (if needed) your screen shot you must save the file to your computer hard drive.
Got to the file button on the toolbar / choose "save as" / enter a name you will remember / change the file extension to .png

C) Now open your internet browser and navigate to http://imageshack.us/
here is what you will see


from within the image shack console you need to
go to browse this will be how you point to the location you saved your screen shot on your computer

then put a check mark in the resize image box change the image size to 800 x 600 or if you want the forum to read alot of small print choose 1024 x 768

now click the host button on the bottom of the console screen

D) The next screen will have mutiple links which are all a link to your custom monitor screen shot. at the bottom bunch of links choose the upper most link from the bottom group of links. Simply hold your mouse pointer over the link and right mouse click and choose copy.

E) Now navigate to the TSF thread which you wish to place your screen shot. Hit the reply button in your thread, once in your thread, right mouse click and select paste from the mouse menu.

F) thats it; your done. Now hit the submit button on the TSF thread reply.


Congrats; now hopefully you have just furnished additional information which will assist a TSF staff member or general member to resolve your problem or questions.

goodluck and be patient

linderman

DISK MANAGEMENT


When you install a new slave drive or have trouble accessing your hard drive, disk management should be the first place you check to verify the structure of the drive or partition & reformat a new drive.

When you install a new hard drive out of the box, it will not show up under "MY Computer" until it has been partitioned and formatted.

When installing any hard drive the first steps to verification are:

A) does the new drive appear in the bios & is the drive manufacturer & size reported correctly?

B) Access disk management and partition the drive for the configuration your desire. Format the Drive as NTFS Do not use the Fat32 file system unless you want to be limited to 32gig partition ?????? There are ways to circumvent this limit but not with Disk Managment and Win XP. Should you need a partition larger than 32gig & Fat32 file system; please ask for assistance in the "Hard Drive Section"


The Journey:


Go to Start then slide to the right and right click on "my computer"
this will bring up a menu like this:



from that menu select "manage" this action will result in the appearance of a console like this:



then you select "disk managment' from the left pane of the console above.

In the right pane you will see all drives which have been recognized by your system bios, like this



In the lower section of the right pane you will see all the hard drives assigned a designation:

this system has:

Disk 0 Western Digital IDE hard drive with four partitions (see the four boxes to the right of the Disk O designation)

Disk 1 U-320 Drive has one Partition

Disk 2 2 Partitions

Disk 3 2 partitions I have selected a partition by clicking one left mouse click on a partition, note how the partition is shown by cross hatched diagonal lines, this designates you have selected this partition for modification. I have right clicked on the selected partition to bring up the "disk mangement tools" from there you can Partition, Format, Delete a Partition, Set a partition as active etc.

This particular example doesnt show the "make" a partition because my drive already has them, if the drive did not have a partition, then the create partition option would be in the menu.

Note on my Disk 3 there is a blue bubble that says "system" this is a designation to show the boot drive partition.

You should also note that each partition box shows the file system which the partition has been assigned. Mine are all NTFS.


If you have any questions or need further help, please start a new thread request in the "Hard Drive" section.





addendum: Each hard drive manufacturer has programs with "tools" for partitioning & formatting. You can also use those tools for your partition work, there are advantages for using those, especially if you are using Win XP home edition.
The draw back to partitioning a slave drive from within disk management, being; the salve drive's geometry (set up parameters) is written to your boot drive, becasue you are "in" the windows OS.
If you remove the boot drive or clean install your OS to your boot drive you may lose access to your slave drive. This problem can occur becasue the new fresh install can not "work" with the drive becasue it has no partition information to "work" with.

This can be avoided by using the manufacturers set-up software to partition your drives or use a third party application like Partition Magic, Boot It NG, Ranish Partition Manager (free)

When you use a third party application like that; then your partition set-up paramters are written to the actual slave drive like this:

Erock600

I hope this helps. I can move files back and forth without any problems.

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JohnthePilot

I notice that you do not have a system partition. The partition that contains your operating system should be marked as "system". You can do this in Disk Management. I'm not sure if this is why XXClone isn't recognising the drive, but it's a possibility.