this is totally insane...hardrive recognition

james151 · 08-20-2007, 08:20 AM

well..this is my first post on this forum..for my 16th birthday my uncle game me some money to got out and but some ram and graphic s card..for my computer i am trying to build....but then i realized all i had left in my computer was a 1 g and a 6g hard drive...so i got 2 ibm 20g hard drives from my freind..i replaced the d drive...( no o/s)with the ibm with no o/s on it...so i turned my comp on and it showed up as removable drive g..wich is a problem because when i went to go put some software on it...the browser for the intall wizzard didnt have it show up as a drive...there was also a old sont dvd rom that didnt work in the comp so i asked my mom..she said it shud beable to read another harddrive...well i put one in and it didnt work either...so can someone please help me to correct this...o and also..the ibm 20g only showes up as an 8g removable drive..not 20g...i think that may have to do with the partioning or somthing like that...thanks

**BCCOMP** · 08-20-2007, 08:38 AM

Hi,
Happy 16th and welcome to the forum

Can you post the specs of your PC. Run EVEREST if you can and post the results. Here is a link:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

Also when you installed the 20gb harddrive did you set the jumpers correctly on both drives (Master / Slave)?

Thanks,
Bill

james151 · 08-20-2007, 10:08 AM

srry i cudnt run that program..im not hooked up to the internet on that comp at the moment'

james151 · 08-20-2007, 10:16 AM

well...i cudnt run that program... i dont have anymore blank cd's to transfer it...im hooking the other one up to the internet. somtime this week.. i have to go but some extra wire...but i can tell you that i upgrated the ram to 3x 256 mb modules..umm the model is a gateway g6-400..pentium 2 thats about it o and a ati rage 128mb graphics card.. srry

but the main problem is that it will only show the hardrives as "removable" thats whats killing me

**BCCOMP** · 08-20-2007, 02:15 PM

Can you tell me:
1. How many harddrives(size and type)
2. How are they connected, Master ? (Which HD) Slave? (Which HD)
3. To which type of cable (Is this a 80 pin cable or a 40 pin).
I am assuming you are trying to add a 20GB hd as a slave (It must be jumpered as a slave). Check the other HD and make sure it it jumpered as a Master. The Master should be at the end of the Primary (80 pin) cable and the Slave in the middle. Also can you tell me what OS you are using and the serial number of this PC
Thanks,
Bill

james151 · 08-22-2007, 08:40 AM

srry about the delay i had an airsoft tournament on the 20 and didnt get back until last night about 11pm so srry for the delay

ok welll the originals that were in the computer whne i got it were a 6.5g "western digital wd caviar 26400" - (15 heads) and the other one was a 1.8g but it didnt have a name and or any identification. the 1.8g is the master wi has the o/s on it and then i dont know whats on the but there are 1 less jumper pin on these hard drives than the ibm desk stars (2) 20g hard drives and another thing i noticed...is that when the westerdigital is being used it is slave so it showes up as the d drive. it has a symbol of a cd with the windows logo in the top left of the image...instead of the default hard drive icon...sryy but i dont know what you mean by 80 pin or40 pin cable this may sound totally absurd

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the serial number for the pc is - 0012990943

o and i almost forgot its just running win 98 for now until i get xp

**BCCOMP** · 08-22-2007, 12:30 PM

If you can download the Everest report this would help out alot. You are dealing with an old PC and the MoBo may not reconize the 20gb harddrives. Do you have a 98 install CD? I would not reccomend XP until I am able to see your PC specs.
Thanks,
Bill

james151 · 08-23-2007, 07:48 AM

ok ill get my hands on some disks and download everst...so ill get that to you as fast as i can..

**Deleted090308** · 08-23-2007, 08:19 AM

Hi,

As BCCOMP says - you have to make sure the jumpers are set correctly on the drives (there's usually a "jumper manual" printed on hard drives).
The new drive should be jumpered as slave and connected to the middle of the cable. The "old" drive (with Windows on it?) then has to be set as master and connected to the end of the cable. Make sure they're not jumpered as "cable select".
The "80 pin" IDE cable is the one you use to connect the drives to the motherboard. It's better to use a "80 pin" cable with bigger drives.

Here's the support site for your computer: http://support.gateway.com/support/a...?sn=0012990943

james151 · 08-23-2007, 10:13 AM

i have them jumperd correctly im sure of it i fixed the d drive issue its just the g showes up as remavble ..thanks alot

**Deleted090308** · 08-23-2007, 10:25 AM

Please explain:
How many drives (hard and CD) have you got in there?
How are they hooked up?
What does BIOS say about them (primary/secondary - master/slave)?

08-20-2007, 08:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
james151 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 OS: win 98	this is totally insane...hardrive recognition well..this is my first post on this forum..for my 16th birthday my uncle game me some money to got out and but some ram and graphic s card..for my computer i am trying to build....but then i realized all i had left in my computer was a 1 g and a 6g hard drive...so i got 2 ibm 20g hard drives from my freind..i replaced the d drive...( no o/s)with the ibm with no o/s on it...so i turned my comp on and it showed up as removable drive g..wich is a problem because when i went to go put some software on it...the browser for the intall wizzard didnt have it show up as a drive...there was also a old sont dvd rom that didnt work in the comp so i asked my mom..she said it shud beable to read another harddrive...well i put one in and it didnt work either...so can someone please help me to correct this...o and also..the ibm 20g only showes up as an 8g removable drive..not 20g...i think that may have to do with the partioning or somthing like that...thanks

08-20-2007, 08:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
BCCOMP Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 7,054 OS: Win XP SP3 / Windows 7 Beta / Open Suse My System	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition Hi, Happy 16th and welcome to the forum Can you post the specs of your PC. Run EVEREST if you can and post the results. Here is a link: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html Also when you installed the 20gb harddrive did you set the jumpers correctly on both drives (Master / Slave)? Thanks, Bill __________________ PC Wizard \| Everest \| Power supply info \| Memtest86+ PC Running Slow Speedfan

08-20-2007, 10:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
james151 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 OS: win 98	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition srry i cudnt run that program..im not hooked up to the internet on that comp at the moment' Last edited by james151; 08-20-2007 at 10:17 AM.

08-20-2007, 10:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
james151 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 OS: win 98	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition well...i cudnt run that program... i dont have anymore blank cd's to transfer it...im hooking the other one up to the internet. somtime this week.. i have to go but some extra wire...but i can tell you that i upgrated the ram to 3x 256 mb modules..umm the model is a gateway g6-400..pentium 2 thats about it o and a ati rage 128mb graphics card.. srry but the main problem is that it will only show the hardrives as "removable" thats whats killing me

08-20-2007, 02:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
BCCOMP Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 7,054 OS: Win XP SP3 / Windows 7 Beta / Open Suse My System	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition Can you tell me: 1. How many harddrives(size and type) 2. How are they connected, Master ? (Which HD) Slave? (Which HD) 3. To which type of cable (Is this a 80 pin cable or a 40 pin). I am assuming you are trying to add a 20GB hd as a slave (It must be jumpered as a slave). Check the other HD and make sure it it jumpered as a Master. The Master should be at the end of the Primary (80 pin) cable and the Slave in the middle. Also can you tell me what OS you are using and the serial number of this PC Thanks, Bill __________________ PC Wizard \| Everest \| Power supply info \| Memtest86+ PC Running Slow Speedfan Last edited by BCCOMP; 08-20-2007 at 02:17 PM.

08-22-2007, 08:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
james151 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 OS: win 98	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition srry about the delay i had an airsoft tournament on the 20 and didnt get back until last night about 11pm so srry for the delay ok welll the originals that were in the computer whne i got it were a 6.5g "western digital wd caviar 26400" - (15 heads) and the other one was a 1.8g but it didnt have a name and or any identification. the 1.8g is the master wi has the o/s on it and then i dont know whats on the but there are 1 less jumper pin on these hard drives than the ibm desk stars (2) 20g hard drives and another thing i noticed...is that when the westerdigital is being used it is slave so it showes up as the d drive. it has a symbol of a cd with the windows logo in the top left of the image...instead of the default hard drive icon...sryy but i dont know what you mean by 80 pin or40 pin cable this may sound totally absurd . the serial number for the pc is - 0012990943 o and i almost forgot its just running win 98 for now until i get xp

08-22-2007, 12:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
BCCOMP Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 7,054 OS: Win XP SP3 / Windows 7 Beta / Open Suse My System	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition If you can download the Everest report this would help out alot. You are dealing with an old PC and the MoBo may not reconize the 20gb harddrives. Do you have a 98 install CD? I would not reccomend XP until I am able to see your PC specs. Thanks, Bill __________________ PC Wizard \| Everest \| Power supply info \| Memtest86+ PC Running Slow Speedfan

08-23-2007, 07:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
james151 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 OS: win 98	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition ok ill get my hands on some disks and download everst...so ill get that to you as fast as i can..

08-23-2007, 08:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition Hi, As BCCOMP says - you have to make sure the jumpers are set correctly on the drives (there's usually a "jumper manual" printed on hard drives). The new drive should be jumpered as slave and connected to the middle of the cable. The "old" drive (with Windows on it?) then has to be set as master and connected to the end of the cable. Make sure they're not jumpered as "cable select". The "80 pin" IDE cable is the one you use to connect the drives to the motherboard. It's better to use a "80 pin" cable with bigger drives. Here's the support site for your computer: http://support.gateway.com/support/a...?sn=0012990943

08-23-2007, 10:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
james151 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6 OS: win 98	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition i have them jumperd correctly im sure of it i fixed the d drive issue its just the g showes up as remavble ..thanks alot

08-23-2007, 10:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Re: this is totally insane...hardrive recognition Please explain: How many drives (hard and CD) have you got in there? How are they hooked up? What does BIOS say about them (primary/secondary - master/slave)?