Bad sector or something else

Thanosg · 05-26-2007, 11:44 AM

hello everyone i have big problem with my pc for a few weeks!
after a format that i made the systems keeps restarting again and again.when i open it,after of couple of minutes the systems and restarts again.i tryed many things like formating again but i reseve the same behavior.i beviele that its my hard drive or my motherbord but how i can find out????
if you have any suggestion about how to find the problem and fix it please tell me......
thank you!

**8210GUY** · 05-26-2007, 12:01 PM

What is the spec of your system including drive models and PSU info ? (you will need to read that from it's sticker on the side of it inside the case).
Why did you need to format it ?
how did you format it ?
Have you touched\changed ANY hardware in your system just before this started ?
And were there any signs of this or similar starting to show before this happened ?
Sorry for so many questions but without such info we are working blind.

dai · 05-26-2007, 12:51 PM

is it the same in safe mode
does it stay on long enough to disable the auto reboot

Thanosg · 05-26-2007, 06:42 PM

yes same happens in safe mode too and it doesn't stops if i disable the auto reboot.....i believe its the motherboard because my hard drive has no problems when i format!but how can i find out if its the motherboard or not.......

Thanosg · 05-26-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8210GUY

What is the spec of your system including drive models and PSU info ? (you will need to read that from it's sticker on the side of it inside the case).
Why did you need to format it ?
how did you format it ?
Have you touched\changed ANY hardware in your system just before this started ?
And were there any signs of this or similar starting to show before this happened ?
Sorry for so many questions but without such info we are working blind.

pc specs:
motherboard:asus p5n32-sli deluxe
Gpu:2x Nvidia 7600gt
Cpu:P4 3.4 dual core
Power supply:Tagan 580W
Liteon DVD and DVD-RW

i format it normaly without problems from the windows xp cd
Now...about hardware changes i made none and i never had such sings before!
Oh i forgot guy....sometimes it gives me artifacts on the screen the fan of one graphic card stops and then the pc restarts!but its not the cards because i tested them on another pc!
mainboard problem????

Tumbleweed36 · 05-26-2007, 07:03 PM

Try it with only one card and see if it reboots. Also, are you certain that all the dust bunnies have been cleaned out of those fans including the CPU fan and heatsink, all case fans, any chipset fans, and last but not least, the video card fans.

You may be a tad light on power supply juice with a 580 watt Tagan (not a bad power supply, although the available juice might be a little light for this rig IMHO) and that can also cause what you are seeing. If this were my rig, I would go consider trying something like a 700 watt power supply. Do you know anyone who has a larger one you could swap in for a few minutes to try it?

**8210GUY** · 05-26-2007, 07:06 PM

Well you appear to have a reasonable spec, so nothing jumps out of me there, I was wondering about a cheap PSU but you have a decent one as far as I'm aware, try using killdisk to format the disk, it may be wise to do it overnight as it takes a few hours depending on your system, if theres a remnant of something lurking that should clear that.
As to the board I have had video slots go bad before on the board, is there another card slot you can try ? if so see if that makes a difference, if that works it would suggest the other slot may be bad, but see what happens before you bin it lol, there may be something else causing this we can't see yet.

Thanosg · 05-26-2007, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8210GUY

Well you appear to have a reasonable spec, so nothing jumps out of me there, I was wondering about a cheap PSU but you have a decent one as far as I'm aware, try using killdisk to format the disk, it may be wise to do it overnight as it takes a few hours depending on your system, if theres a remnant of something lurking that should clear that.
As to the board I have had video slots go bad before on the board, is there another card slot you can try ? if so see if that makes a difference, if that works it would suggest the other slot may be bad, but see what happens before you bin it lol, there may be something else causing this we can't see yet.

i tryed both pci-E slots and it happens again!
i'll try the format method you suggested and i i'll tell you tomorrow what happens!
anyway thanks man!

Thanosg · 05-26-2007, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36

Try it with only one card and see if it reboots. Also, are you certain that all the dust bunnies have been cleaned out of those fans including the CPU fan and heatsink, all case fans, any chipset fans, and last but not least, the video card fans.

You may be a tad light on power supply juice with a 580 watt Tagan (not a bad power supply, although the available juice might be a little light for this rig IMHO) and that can also cause what you are seeing. If this were my rig, I would go consider trying something like a 700 watt power supply. Do you know anyone who has a larger one you could swap in for a few minutes to try it?

i dont thing that its the power supply because from october since one week before it was working excellent.

dai · 05-27-2007, 11:00 AM

regardless all your symptoms point to power

05-26-2007, 11:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Thanosg Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Athens Gr Posts: 5 OS: xp	Bad sector or something else hello everyone i have big problem with my pc for a few weeks! after a format that i made the systems keeps restarting again and again.when i open it,after of couple of minutes the systems and restarts again.i tryed many things like formating again but i reseve the same behavior.i beviele that its my hard drive or my motherbord but how i can find out???? if you have any suggestion about how to find the problem and fix it please tell me...... thank you!

05-26-2007, 12:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
8210GUY TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,558 OS: xp Pro	Re: Bad sector or something else What is the spec of your system including drive models and PSU info ? (you will need to read that from it's sticker on the side of it inside the case). Why did you need to format it ? how did you format it ? Have you touched\changed ANY hardware in your system just before this started ? And were there any signs of this or similar starting to show before this happened ? Sorry for so many questions but without such info we are working blind.

05-26-2007, 12:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,487 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Bad sector or something else is it the same in safe mode does it stay on long enough to disable the auto reboot __________________

05-26-2007, 06:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Thanosg Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Athens Gr Posts: 5 OS: xp	Re: Bad sector or something else yes same happens in safe mode too and it doesn't stops if i disable the auto reboot.....i believe its the motherboard because my hard drive has no problems when i format!but how can i find out if its the motherboard or not.......

05-26-2007, 07:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,600 OS: XP Professional	Re: Bad sector or something else Try it with only one card and see if it reboots. Also, are you certain that all the dust bunnies have been cleaned out of those fans including the CPU fan and heatsink, all case fans, any chipset fans, and last but not least, the video card fans. You may be a tad light on power supply juice with a 580 watt Tagan (not a bad power supply, although the available juice might be a little light for this rig IMHO) and that can also cause what you are seeing. If this were my rig, I would go consider trying something like a 700 watt power supply. Do you know anyone who has a larger one you could swap in for a few minutes to try it? __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 05-26-2007 at 07:29 PM.

05-26-2007, 07:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
8210GUY TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,558 OS: xp Pro	Re: Bad sector or something else Well you appear to have a reasonable spec, so nothing jumps out of me there, I was wondering about a cheap PSU but you have a decent one as far as I'm aware, try using killdisk to format the disk, it may be wise to do it overnight as it takes a few hours depending on your system, if theres a remnant of something lurking that should clear that. As to the board I have had video slots go bad before on the board, is there another card slot you can try ? if so see if that makes a difference, if that works it would suggest the other slot may be bad, but see what happens before you bin it lol, there may be something else causing this we can't see yet.

05-27-2007, 11:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,487 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Bad sector or something else regardless all your symptoms point to power __________________