IDE HDD Problems.

Schoning · 02-26-2007, 12:02 AM

I'm having some issues with my IDE hard drives. One is a Maxtor diamondmax plus 8 30gb and one is Fujitsu MPG3102AT 10 GB. I"m having issues when I hook them up to my IDE Cables on my motherboard. I'm using the same IDE cable as I do for my CD/DVD rom since it has a spare connector, likewise with the power connector. I conntec it all up nice and securly, (only using one of the drives at a time) and it fails to show the hard drives or my DVD rom drive... Any thoughts? I know they are not dead since they were working in another rig not long a ago, I just have files which I need to get off them. Any thoughts?

To help clear it up, I'll a use a diagram to explain how it's connected just so there is no confusion.

That is what my IDE cable looks like, With the Green/Grey/Black rectangles being the connectors. The green one is hooked up to my Motherboard, The grey one is free or hooked up to one of the IDE HDD's and the Black one is Hooked up to the DVD Drive.

Here are my PC specs:
Intel C2D E6300 @ 1.86 GHZ
1gb Samsung 533 mhz ram @ 5-4-4-12-16 :(
320 Western Digital HD in SATA2
Gigabyte 945PL-S3 mobo
Intel 945 Express Chipset
Pioneer 111-D Dvd Burner
nVidia Geforce 7600 GS 256 mb Graphics Card
19" Samsung Syncmaster 940BW monitor
Logitech DiNovo Laser Media Desktop
Videologic ZXR-750 surround sound system.

JohnthePilot · 02-26-2007, 01:25 AM

Having only 1 IDE slot makes life a bit awkward on this mobo. I assume your OS is on the SATA drive, although you don't say. You also don't make it clear when you say you can't detect the PATA drive or DVD. Is this when you are running Windows or in BIOS?

byroz · 02-26-2007, 01:29 AM

I'd suggest checking what the drives are set to, if you look at the back of the Hard Drive and DVD drives you will see some Jumpers, these jumpers change the drives between Master, Slave and Cable Select - going off your diagram - the drive the black connector is plugged into should be master and the drive the grey connector is plugged into should be set to Slave. If you look at the drives there will be a diagram that shows how the Jumpers should be arraged to set Master/Slave on each drive. Also, don't assume the arrangement will be the same for all the drives because it wont be.

Schoning · 02-26-2007, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnthePilot

Having only 1 IDE slot makes life a bit awkward on this mobo. I assume your OS is on the SATA drive, although you don't say. You also don't make it clear when you say you can't detect the PATA drive or DVD. Is this when you are running Windows or in BIOS?

Yes, My Os is off my SATA drive. Neither BIOS nor Windows pick these drives up. However a Floppy drive is somehow detected even though I don't have one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by byroz

I'd suggest checking what the drives are set to, if you look at the back of the Hard Drive and DVD drives you will see some Jumpers, these jumpers change the drives between Master, Slave and Cable Select - going off your diagram - the drive the black connector is plugged into should be master and the drive the grey connector is plugged into should be set to Slave. If you look at the drives there will be a diagram that shows how the Jumpers should be arraged to set Master/Slave on each drive. Also, don't assume the arrangement will be the same for all the drives because it wont be.

So In other words, make the burner the master and hdd the slave? Since thats how it's hooked up?

**Deleted090308** · 02-26-2007, 02:21 AM

Hi!
CD=master, HDD=slave.
What happens if the burner is disconnected, but the HD connected?
Is there any changes in BIOS you can change (concerning the IDE channel)?

Nicholas

JohnthePilot · 02-26-2007, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoning

Yes, My Os is off my SATA drive. Neither BIOS nor Windows pick these drives up.

That could be because the jumpers aren't set proiperly.

Quote:

So In other words, make the burner the master and hdd the slave? Since thats how it's hooked up?

Byroz is correct here. You are using a cable select cable, so the master should be on the end (black) and the slave on the middle (grey). The jumpers must either match this or be set to cable select. I prefer to set them as master and slave.

Schoning · 02-26-2007, 10:23 PM

I'm completely stumped. It doesn't matter how I set the jumpers, it doesn't work. The HDD as master on the end of the cable and the optical as the slave in the middle of the cable didn't work. Cable select didn't. Optical as master hdd as slave didn't work.. Neither drive will work by itself no matter on the cable setting or jumper setting?

JohnthePilot · 02-27-2007, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoning

I'm completely stumped. It doesn't matter how I set the jumpers, it doesn't work. The HDD as master on the end of the cable and the optical as the slave in the middle of the cable didn't work. Cable select didn't. Optical as master hdd as slave didn't work.. Neither drive will work by itself no matter on the cable setting or jumper setting?

Does it recognise the DVD burner when it's on it's own? If not, then I have to suspect the mobo, or at least the BIOS settings.

Schoning · 02-27-2007, 01:12 AM

It doesn't detect either drive by themselves. The Burner worked before I put the HDD in. And it can't be the mobo, I got a new one 2 days ago.

**Deleted090308** · 02-27-2007, 02:00 AM

Try another cable. Does the burner blink when you boot?

02-26-2007, 12:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
Schoning Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38 OS: XP MCE	IDE HDD Problems. I'm having some issues with my IDE hard drives. One is a Maxtor diamondmax plus 8 30gb and one is Fujitsu MPG3102AT 10 GB. I"m having issues when I hook them up to my IDE Cables on my motherboard. I'm using the same IDE cable as I do for my CD/DVD rom since it has a spare connector, likewise with the power connector. I conntec it all up nice and securly, (only using one of the drives at a time) and it fails to show the hard drives or my DVD rom drive... Any thoughts? I know they are not dead since they were working in another rig not long a ago, I just have files which I need to get off them. Any thoughts? To help clear it up, I'll a use a diagram to explain how it's connected just so there is no confusion. That is what my IDE cable looks like, With the Green/Grey/Black rectangles being the connectors. The green one is hooked up to my Motherboard, The grey one is free or hooked up to one of the IDE HDD's and the Black one is Hooked up to the DVD Drive. Here are my PC specs: Intel C2D E6300 @ 1.86 GHZ 1gb Samsung 533 mhz ram @ 5-4-4-12-16 :( 320 Western Digital HD in SATA2 Gigabyte 945PL-S3 mobo Intel 945 Express Chipset Pioneer 111-D Dvd Burner nVidia Geforce 7600 GS 256 mb Graphics Card 19" Samsung Syncmaster 940BW monitor Logitech DiNovo Laser Media Desktop Videologic ZXR-750 surround sound system.

02-26-2007, 01:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,130 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Having only 1 IDE slot makes life a bit awkward on this mobo. I assume your OS is on the SATA drive, although you don't say. You also don't make it clear when you say you can't detect the PATA drive or DVD. Is this when you are running Windows or in BIOS? __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

02-26-2007, 01:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
byroz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 75 OS: Win XP Pro My System	I'd suggest checking what the drives are set to, if you look at the back of the Hard Drive and DVD drives you will see some Jumpers, these jumpers change the drives between Master, Slave and Cable Select - going off your diagram - the drive the black connector is plugged into should be master and the drive the grey connector is plugged into should be set to Slave. If you look at the drives there will be a diagram that shows how the Jumpers should be arraged to set Master/Slave on each drive. Also, don't assume the arrangement will be the same for all the drives because it wont be.

02-26-2007, 02:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Hi! CD=master, HDD=slave. What happens if the burner is disconnected, but the HD connected? Is there any changes in BIOS you can change (concerning the IDE channel)? Nicholas

02-26-2007, 10:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Schoning Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38 OS: XP MCE	I'm completely stumped. It doesn't matter how I set the jumpers, it doesn't work. The HDD as master on the end of the cable and the optical as the slave in the middle of the cable didn't work. Cable select didn't. Optical as master hdd as slave didn't work.. Neither drive will work by itself no matter on the cable setting or jumper setting?

02-27-2007, 01:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
Schoning Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38 OS: XP MCE	It doesn't detect either drive by themselves. The Burner worked before I put the HDD in. And it can't be the mobo, I got a new one 2 days ago.

02-27-2007, 02:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,277 OS: Xp	Try another cable. Does the burner blink when you boot?