andylogan

Hi!

I have an Antec AMG1080 server type case.

It has one rear fan right now.

Here are its specs:
http://www.antec.com/specs/plus_1080amg_spe.html

and configuration:
http://www.antec.com/pdf/drawings/PLUS1080AMG.pdf


It has a 3.5" drive cage which holds 3 hard drives.

Here are my Everest temperatures:

Temperatures:
Motherboard.............................33 °C (91 °F)
CPU.........................................38 °C (100 °F)
Aux.........................................46 °C (115 °F)
WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0.................................38 °C (100 °F)
WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0.................................42 °C (108 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0.................................41 °C (106 °F)

So obviously the middle drive is hottest.

1. I'm going to add a bottom front 80mm fan to bring air in.

2. What else can I do to keep those hard drives cooler?


Thanks,

Andy

Kalim

If thats under load, 40C is fine although for summer that may require extra cooling. Just take the side casing off when temperatures heat up in summer. For cooling right now, add the front 80mm fan and a 80mm fan for the HDDs and you should be right.

On a side note, your Aux looks pretty hot if that under normal use. I hope you have a good PSU.

andylogan

Thanks for your reply.

1. Yeah, what is that Aux about anyways? What's that temp for?

2. It's the PSU that came with it. 430W from Antec

3. I did a better search this time and have come across a few more posts here. Will one of those 3.5" hard drive fans take up a lot of space? Do I lose a whole 3.5" bay for one of those fans?

Kalim

The Power Supply Unit (PSU).Not really, your case was designed to incorporate 5 case fans at 80mm. 2 rear, 1 front, 1 side and 1 HDD.

andylogan

Hi,

THanks for your reply. I didn't mean the 80mm case fans...I meant a 3.5" hard drive fan - mounts below the hard drive unit on the models I've looked up on the internet:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...3560&CatId=495

I'm assuming I lose a lot of space with these things?

I'll definitely get some more 80mm case fans though.

Kalim

Yes, an 80mm fan can be used to cool the HDDs well in your case and that was what I was saying basically. The 3.5" specially designed HDD fan requires quite a bit of room and that depends on your case. The mounting holes usually don't align up and it'll mean you either have to remove a HDD or drill some more holes in
It'll take up a 3.5" shelf only if it fits well though, thats all, and is very good for large HDDs that do heat up a fair amount (which causes failure). They are noisy though due to the high RPM bear in mind and you'll need a 12Vfan connector too to power it.

andylogan

Thanks for your help!

Yeah, I've been reading about dremels and other mods people have had to make!

But if it extends the hard drive life / reduces the heat then I guess it's worth it.

Thanks!

Andy

linderman

Andy:


I would advise as Kalim has stated and add a high RPM case fan as close as possible to blow fresh air from outside the case into and accros your drives.


That 46C PSU temp is a major RED flag. A 430 watt PSU is too underpowered for your rig and as a result it is making alot of unecessary heat, eventually that much heat will make it blow. When it blows hopefully it wont kill other components!

I highly suggest you look on newegg.com for the Antec Trio Rail 550 watt PSU they are running about $85.00 now its bigger brother the Trio 650 watt is even better at around $110.00

those units wont be put under the strain your current unit is and therefore temps will improve also.

sell off your old unit on ebay to sweeten the pot.

FYI the max hard drive temp is 50C your temps although not max; are rather high they should be around the same as your motherboard temp or 35C

You have a very NICE case >>>> you should have a case fan at each loaction that will take one! the fan locations at the front bring in fresh air; fan loactions at rear of computer exuast hot air, the side fan should be moving air into the case also.


good-luck

andylogan

Hi!

Thanks for the heads up.

I'm heading to the store tonight to get some fans.

I also moved a hard drive up to the top 3.5" cage, and separated the other two so there's more space in between them now, and should have space in there so that two of them could have their own hard drive cooling fans.

A couple of things:

1. When I cracked open the case it is actually an Antec 480W. Is this sufficient then? I'm thinking not b/c of the temperature but let me know what you think.

2. I've read about side fans and how they can actually increase inside temperatures. But I think that they were using it to blow air OUT...so maybe blowing it IN is different and better?

3. YES this case is great! It's not as heavy as some people say but it's not for LAN parties or anything - it's acting as a server type for me.

Looking forward to hear your thoughts.

Andy

Kalim

Yes, linderman said all correctly. An underpowered PSU will heat up your components and it will heat up itself due to running more than it can handle -- it'll last what, a little while? Not long believe me, before it dies, or starts killing off other components like a serial killer, undetected. The problem with any case+PSU combo is that the case is good while the PSU is toot!

The Antec you have is TruePower. Now the TruePower 1 480W is no good even compared to the TruePower2. Due to the technologies when it was manufactured and its makeup, as well as being old too, it will only output around 300W at peak (if you've used it for a year). Continuous supply it can sustain will be much less. The ones you need are what linderman advised: Antec TruePower 3 550W or TruePower 3 650W (for a little more).

Ever seen how when a man runs and he's running at his peak he becomes frail with weaker senses, about to collapse any minute, unable to do much due to being very weak and fatigued, and red hot boiling while dying for gallops of breath? Yes, well the same things happen with PSUs in this situation.

Have a read here, you won't regret it: http://www.techsupportforum.com/hard...selection.html

Any questions in regards it, feel free to ask. There's nothing foolish in knowledge but when a query remains hidden for "presumed" fears
Completely depends on the case setup and the CFM from each fan. Ultimately you want a case where the air is being blown across all surfaces, IN and then OUT from the back MORE than what is coming in and as much as what is being produced.

Its different for every setup with every system. Try it with side blowing in and then out to see what works best for you. I would expect blowing in to move air and heat towards the CPU with the exhaust fans then pulling it all out - which should work best. Depends on the air flow at the end of it and the pressures in every place.

Have a look here, to learn more: http://www.tweak3d.net/tweak/airflowtweak/print.shtml

andylogan

Hi!

Thanks for your reply.

1. Okay, will likely upgrade to the Trio 650W then. I priced it out and not much difference.

I did try that link for the PSU info - there was a link to a calculator and that didn't work too well for my situation (cameup with 270W so I must have done something wrong).

2. Do you have a preference on brand of case fans? Vantec, etc.


3. Thanks for that last link too - very helpful!

Thanks!

linderman

The antec trio 650 is an excellent PSU



have a look at these fans, I have had very good luck with them, they are high quality and high rpm.

http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMALTAKE-TT80...QQcmdZViewItem

some cheapo junkers will only spin to 1800 rpm's !

Kalim

Scythe, Yate Loon, Delta, Sanyo Denki, Nexus, CoolerMaster, Zalman and Thermaltake fans is what I usually go for.

andylogan

Hi!

Added an 80mm front intake fan and put a hard drive cooler (Vantec) under the middle hard drive for now.

For some reason the side panel fan is 92mm so I have to go back for that.

Temps are now:

Temperatures
Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F)
CPU 37 °C (99 °F)
Aux 46 °C (117 °F)
WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0 37 °C (99 °F)
WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0 36 °C (97 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 36 °C (97 °F)

I will be getting the Antec Trio 650W on Monday - the place didn't have it in stock.

I'll get the 92 mm fan on that day too and then add a hard drive cooler to the other hard drives that day too when more things are unplugged b/c of the new power supply.

This 'server' is on 24hours so I'm glad to have more cooling and to be adding more power can only be a good thing.

Thanks for your help!

Andy

linderman

you wont regret that 650 Andy


remember that AUX temp before and after PSU have auto shutdown at 50C yours is now screaming for mercy !


things are shaping up for ya though!