Hard drive problems

ggarsk · 11-25-2006, 10:00 AM

Hi, I'm new here and I have a problem. I just built my system and I am having trouble getting it to recognize my 320 gig HDD. It was recognizing it, but only as 32gigs. When I went to partition and format it I got a message saying my DDO was wrong. Sometimes when I used Maxblast 4 or Seaqgate Disk Wizard I'd get the right size. But when I got done partitioning it to 4 drives it still only showed 32gigs. I went to Disk management(mistake) and screwed things up so it doesn't even see the drive anymore. The 320 is in a mobile dock and if I boot up with it in and on nothing happens. When I turn it off and reboot, I get a message saying my overclocking has failed and I have to reset it. I don't even know how or why to overclock. I'll go into my bios, reset the defaults and it'll boot up normally. My bios is LBA enabled. I have windows XP with both service packs. What did I do wrong and how do I fix it. Thanks in advace.

**Done_Fishin** · 11-25-2006, 10:04 AM

I seem to remember a jumper on the drive that limited some drives to around the 32 GB limit .. but that was way back .. check the manufacturers site for your drive .. also post your drive info here. Someone might know or we can take a look together,
post your system info and we'llcheck out the other too. I have an asus that was doing that overclocking thing .. something I adjusted in BIOS stopped it from happening .. something I adjusted in BIOS made it start too! But I can't remember just what! It also used to hang when looking for USB devices~ ring any bells? Doesn't do it any more though .. mines a P4S800D

dai · 11-25-2006, 11:07 AM

is it formatted fat32 or ntfs

**linderman** · 11-25-2006, 04:42 PM

you must use the NTFS file system if you use fat32 with Win XP it will limit you to one 32gig partition and leave the rest of the drive in limbo

there are ways around this if you need a fat 32 partition but also never make a fat32 partition larger than 120gig or it may over write into surrounding partitions without your knowledge.
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Also there are jumpers settings on some drives which limit them to 32gigs check you hard drive manual

I personally would erase and wipe the drive (there are programs for free in the link in my signature / Specality programs / Boot & Nuke)

somehow you have DDO on that drive: DDO is not data recovery friendly and sooner or later you will regret its presence, guaranteed!

I would wipe the drive and start from scratch >>>>> its a long process; about 45minutes for 20gigs

ggarsk · 11-25-2006, 10:49 PM

It's NTFS file system. I got it so Xp recognizes it again. I'll try to wipe out the DDO and start over. I got the jumper set to cable select, I'll check that out. Thanks for the info. This build has been a hassle. It started out as a upgrade, but turned into a complete rebuild. The only old componets I used are the 40 gig HDD and my sound card. Every thing else from the ground up is new.

dai · 11-26-2006, 10:14 AM

when using cable select both drives have to be set to that

**Done_Fishin** · 11-26-2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai

when using cable select both drives have to be set to that

And you need the "correct" cable

http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/ide-cable-select.html

also

http://www.storagereview.com/guide20...de/confCS.html

ggarsk · 12-02-2006, 05:18 PM

I just ran Boot N Nuke. it cleaned oot the DDO. but I still only show 32 gigs instead of 320. And yes all my cables are right and hooked up correctly. What am I doing wrong?

**Done_Fishin** · 12-03-2006, 02:08 AM

Just how old is your motherboard and BIOS?

please post system & HDD info

**linderman** · 12-03-2006, 07:39 AM

check your hard drive manual to make sure you dont have the 32gig jumper limitation "enabled"

then please supply system specs as requested

if you need help with system specs; please see Everest Home in "My Favorite Tools & links) / Monitoring/ in my signature

from their you can post your system summary into this thread

ggarsk · 12-03-2006, 03:28 PM

My system is as follows: 2.4 Celeron, ASUS P4S800D MoBo, 2 GB memory, NVIDIA GeForce FX video card, 60 GB SATA Maxtor HDD, 320 GB ATA Maxtor HDD, Ultra Aluminus case and 430 watt power supply Those components are all new. Old components: Emprex DVD RW, 40 GB ATA Maxtor HDD and Creative Sound Blaster sound card. Windows XP w/SP2 on the 40 GB HDD. As far as I can tell there is no limiting jumper on the hard drive. I reran the Boot and Nuke, it did clean off the DDO. I managed to partition and format it once showing the true size, but when I finished it was still only 32 BG's...go figure. I am at wits end!

dai · 12-03-2006, 04:35 PM

check for an infection on the computer you have tried just about everthing else
http://www.techsupportforum.com/showthread.php?t=15968

**Done_Fishin** · 12-03-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggarsk

My system is as follows: 2.4 Celeron, ASUS P4S800D MoBo, 2 GB memory, NVIDIA GeForce FX video card, 60 GB SATA Maxtor HDD, 320 GB ATA Maxtor HDD, Ultra Aluminus case and 430 watt power supply Those components are all new. Old components: Emprex DVD RW, 40 GB ATA Maxtor HDD and Creative Sound Blaster sound card. Windows XP w/SP2 on the 40 GB HDD. As far as I can tell there is no limiting jumper on the hard drive. I reran the Boot and Nuke, it did clean off the DDO. I managed to partition and format it once showing the true size, but when I finished it was still only 32 BG's...go figure. I am at wits end!

We have the same mobo, just realised that we have been talking about P ATA HDD's can you confirm that yours is a 320GB P ATA and not 320GB SATA .. is it possible that it's a SATA II drive ?
RE your overclocking fail that you have been seeing , I used to get that too but I fiddled with a few setting sin the BIOS and it's stopped now . Problem is that I didn't note down what I played with, and I don't remember. It only ever did it when cold booting, if you reset after passing through BIOS, it doesn't do it any more. I always found it did it after a shut down and possibly aftre power removal, for maintenance.

ggarsk · 12-03-2006, 05:12 PM

It's definatlly not a SATA II. I know it is a Maxtor by Seagate tho. The over clocking only does it during cold booting like yours. I just reset and hit F2 and it works fine. If you remeber what you did let me know. i'd really appreciate it.
thanks

**Done_Fishin** · 12-04-2006, 02:39 AM

If you could please let us have the model of the HDD we can then do a Double check of characteristics.

I will try to find a way to grab my BIOS settings, unfortunately the only method I know is to use a printer and the print scrn button but my Printer is USB and to my knowledge the command doesn't work on USB printers, default is LPT1:

dai · 12-04-2006, 09:44 AM

if the o/c only happens in cold boot look at the power supply

ggarsk · 12-07-2006, 07:40 PM

The HDD is a Maxtor Diamond Max 21 320 GB P ATA. It's not a infection as it was a clean install. It wouldn't show the right size from the start.

**linderman** · 12-08-2006, 03:57 PM

hello

download an run the hard drive makers diangostic software against the drive (free) check my signature for "My favorite tools & links" in there is the hard drive diagnostic sites

post the results of the extended tests

ggarsk · 12-09-2006, 07:56 PM

I ran Maxtor's PowerMax on my hard drive. It passed all the tests. i then low level formated it. Still only showing 32 GB's. i'm going t ogo to Maxtor to see if they have any solutions. Thank you for all of your help. And thank you for this forum, I've learned alot from it.

11-25-2006, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	Hard drive problems Hi, I'm new here and I have a problem. I just built my system and I am having trouble getting it to recognize my 320 gig HDD. It was recognizing it, but only as 32gigs. When I went to partition and format it I got a message saying my DDO was wrong. Sometimes when I used Maxblast 4 or Seaqgate Disk Wizard I'd get the right size. But when I got done partitioning it to 4 drives it still only showed 32gigs. I went to Disk management(mistake) and screwed things up so it doesn't even see the drive anymore. The 320 is in a mobile dock and if I boot up with it in and on nothing happens. When I turn it off and reboot, I get a message saying my overclocking has failed and I have to reset it. I don't even know how or why to overclock. I'll go into my bios, reset the defaults and it'll boot up normally. My bios is LBA enabled. I have windows XP with both service packs. What did I do wrong and how do I fix it. Thanks in advace.

11-25-2006, 10:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,266 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	I seem to remember a jumper on the drive that limited some drives to around the 32 GB limit .. but that was way back .. check the manufacturers site for your drive .. also post your drive info here. Someone might know or we can take a look together, post your system info and we'llcheck out the other too. I have an asus that was doing that overclocking thing .. something I adjusted in BIOS stopped it from happening .. something I adjusted in BIOS made it start too! But I can't remember just what! It also used to hang when looking for USB devices~ ring any bells? Doesn't do it any more though .. mines a P4S800D __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner Last edited by Done_Fishin; 11-25-2006 at 10:07 AM.

11-25-2006, 11:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,203 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	is it formatted fat32 or ntfs __________________

11-25-2006, 04:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,402 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	you must use the NTFS file system if you use fat32 with Win XP it will limit you to one 32gig partition and leave the rest of the drive in limbo there are ways around this if you need a fat 32 partition but also never make a fat32 partition larger than 120gig or it may over write into surrounding partitions without your knowledge. ' Also there are jumpers settings on some drives which limit them to 32gigs check you hard drive manual I personally would erase and wipe the drive (there are programs for free in the link in my signature / Specality programs / Boot & Nuke) somehow you have DDO on that drive: DDO is not data recovery friendly and sooner or later you will regret its presence, guaranteed! I would wipe the drive and start from scratch >>>>> its a long process; about 45minutes for 20gigs __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-26-2006, 10:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,203 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	when using cable select both drives have to be set to that __________________

11-25-2006, 10:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	It's NTFS file system. I got it so Xp recognizes it again. I'll try to wipe out the DDO and start over. I got the jumper set to cable select, I'll check that out. Thanks for the info. This build has been a hassle. It started out as a upgrade, but turned into a complete rebuild. The only old componets I used are the 40 gig HDD and my sound card. Every thing else from the ground up is new.

12-02-2006, 05:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	I just ran Boot N Nuke. it cleaned oot the DDO. but I still only show 32 gigs instead of 320. And yes all my cables are right and hooked up correctly. What am I doing wrong?

12-03-2006, 02:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,266 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	Just how old is your motherboard and BIOS? please post system & HDD info __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner Last edited by Done_Fishin; 12-03-2006 at 02:10 AM.

12-03-2006, 07:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,402 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	check your hard drive manual to make sure you dont have the 32gig jumper limitation "enabled" then please supply system specs as requested if you need help with system specs; please see Everest Home in "My Favorite Tools & links) / Monitoring/ in my signature from their you can post your system summary into this thread __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

12-03-2006, 03:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	My system is as follows: 2.4 Celeron, ASUS P4S800D MoBo, 2 GB memory, NVIDIA GeForce FX video card, 60 GB SATA Maxtor HDD, 320 GB ATA Maxtor HDD, Ultra Aluminus case and 430 watt power supply Those components are all new. Old components: Emprex DVD RW, 40 GB ATA Maxtor HDD and Creative Sound Blaster sound card. Windows XP w/SP2 on the 40 GB HDD. As far as I can tell there is no limiting jumper on the hard drive. I reran the Boot and Nuke, it did clean off the DDO. I managed to partition and format it once showing the true size, but when I finished it was still only 32 BG's...go figure. I am at wits end!

12-03-2006, 04:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,203 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	check for an infection on the computer you have tried just about everthing else http://www.techsupportforum.com/showthread.php?t=15968 __________________

12-03-2006, 05:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	It's definatlly not a SATA II. I know it is a Maxtor by Seagate tho. The over clocking only does it during cold booting like yours. I just reset and hit F2 and it works fine. If you remeber what you did let me know. i'd really appreciate it. thanks

12-04-2006, 02:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,266 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	If you could please let us have the model of the HDD we can then do a Double check of characteristics. I will try to find a way to grab my BIOS settings, unfortunately the only method I know is to use a printer and the print scrn button but my Printer is USB and to my knowledge the command doesn't work on USB printers, default is LPT1: __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

12-04-2006, 09:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,203 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	if the o/c only happens in cold boot look at the power supply __________________

12-07-2006, 07:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	The HDD is a Maxtor Diamond Max 21 320 GB P ATA. It's not a infection as it was a clean install. It wouldn't show the right size from the start. __________________ 2.4 Celeron, ASUS P4S800D MoBo, 2 GB memory, NVIDIA GeForce FX video card, 60 GB SATA Maxtor HDD, 320 GB ATA Maxtor HDD, Ultra Aluminus case and 430 watt power supply. Old components: Emprex DVD RW, 40 GB ATA Maxtor HDD and Creative Sound Blaster sound card. Windows XP w/SP2 on the 40 GB HDD.

12-08-2006, 03:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,402 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	hello download an run the hard drive makers diangostic software against the drive (free) check my signature for "My favorite tools & links" in there is the hard drive diagnostic sites post the results of the extended tests __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

12-09-2006, 07:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
ggarsk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 10 OS: XP	I ran Maxtor's PowerMax on my hard drive. It passed all the tests. i then low level formated it. Still only showing 32 GB's. i'm going t ogo to Maxtor to see if they have any solutions. Thank you for all of your help. And thank you for this forum, I've learned alot from it. __________________ 2.4 Celeron, ASUS P4S800D MoBo, 2 GB memory, NVIDIA GeForce FX video card, 60 GB SATA Maxtor HDD, 320 GB ATA Maxtor HDD, Ultra Aluminus case and 430 watt power supply. Old components: Emprex DVD RW, 40 GB ATA Maxtor HDD and Creative Sound Blaster sound card. Windows XP w/SP2 on the 40 GB HDD.