lets see your rig - Page 15

**TheMatt** · 08-27-2007, 08:43 PM

If the PSU was 70 degrees it would have fried. It will probably shut down at about 50 degrees.

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 02:28 PM

UPDATE: I have successfully installed the extra 90mm fan in the front above the 120mm blue LED fan. I will have to get some pics of the specs, but basically I took 2 wire ties and used them to secure the fan to the drive bay screw installation holes. Now the case is starting to resemble a BTX computer with a straight airflow path.

While the CPU temp seems to only have been affected a little (down to about 43 degrees under full load), the Northbridge temp has dropped a pleasant 5 degrees down to about 33 degrees. The GPU temp has remained unaffected.

My original plan was to mod the bottom and put a fan there (this was inspired by Jaggerwild's mod of his case), but I though I would give the front a try. I have two extra fans at my house (80mm dual ball bearing and 60mm ball bearing) and about a thousand other laying around at the shop so if I ever wanted to add the bottom fan as an intake that would still be an option. That would help the video card most likely since the air would go straight up into the video card fan.

As it stands now, I have 8 fans:
120mm blue LED front fan
120mm blue LED rear fan
90mm DBB front fan
90mm DBB rear fan
92mm(?) Intel HSF fan
80mm(?) MSI dual slot fan
111mm SB expansion slot fan
80mm DBB power supply fan

The PSU fan is the only one that is thermally controlled. I cranked the Intel HSF fan up to 100% in the BIOS and the video card fan up to 100% with Rivatuner. Surprisingly, I haven't really noticed much of a difference with the extra 90mm fan in the front.

Hopefully I will get some pics in here when I have some time to take them to help others who have wanted to also mount the 90mm fan in front with their Armor case.

1 g0t 0wn3d · 09-04-2007, 03:33 PM

Haw do i get unthermal contorled matt bios has no option

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 03:40 PM

Do you have a 3-pin or 4-pin CPU fan connector?

1 g0t 0wn3d · 09-04-2007, 03:41 PM

4 its from intel =) the as5 made the difference of the fan spinning slower at the same temp lol

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 03:45 PM

If your board also has the 4-pin connector (and the 4th pin isn't just hanging off), then *theoretically* cutting the PWM wire (usually blue) will make the fan go up to 100%. It really depends on the BIOS though.

Another option is to get a 3-pin to 4-pin adapter and plug the CPU fan into the power supply, but your system might not start saying CPU fan failure. A way to get around this (when using this solution) is to connect the +12v pin and the GND pin with a resistor (around 100 ohms would be sufficient). This will make the board think there is a fan connected when there is really a resistor.

You might also have to do something with the other pin where the sensor wire would be connected. I will have to investigate that further if you go that route.

1 g0t 0wn3d · 09-04-2007, 03:49 PM

my system has a hard time starting without a case fan plugged into the board and the board is a 4pin, maybe i should w8 untill i have the money for a cpu cooler and try it and if it doesnt work go buy one?

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 03:58 PM

If you happen to have spare wires/alligator clips around you can test it by connecting each pin to the header with a wire/alligator clip combo. Do not connect the PWM wire though. See what happens.

How many case fans do you have?

1 g0t 0wn3d · 09-04-2007, 04:08 PM

I have a 120mm in back a 80mm on top and a 80mm in front, what are the clip things i do have another heatsink+fan that has a 4 piner but its all aluminum and i dont want to take off this cpus fan yet because the as5 install was perfect yesterday

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 04:14 PM

The blue PWM wire is the one to clip. This sometimes speeds the fan up to 100%.

Remember the AS5 has a break in period, so after a couple weeks your temps should be lower.

1 g0t 0wn3d · 09-04-2007, 04:16 PM

yes but the fan speed will just go lowwer....and how do you clip it or like post a picture of what to buy?

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 04:17 PM

A wire cutter will work. Just cut the wire. I will have to test it out and get a picture.

1 g0t 0wn3d · 09-04-2007, 04:26 PM

I dont want to cut it if it is going to hate me it already does for not letting it control my case fans

08-27-2007, 08:43 PM	#281 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig If the PSU was 70 degrees it would have fried. It will probably shut down at about 50 degrees. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 02:28 PM	#282 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig UPDATE: I have successfully installed the extra 90mm fan in the front above the 120mm blue LED fan. I will have to get some pics of the specs, but basically I took 2 wire ties and used them to secure the fan to the drive bay screw installation holes. Now the case is starting to resemble a BTX computer with a straight airflow path. While the CPU temp seems to only have been affected a little (down to about 43 degrees under full load), the Northbridge temp has dropped a pleasant 5 degrees down to about 33 degrees. The GPU temp has remained unaffected. My original plan was to mod the bottom and put a fan there (this was inspired by Jaggerwild's mod of his case), but I though I would give the front a try. I have two extra fans at my house (80mm dual ball bearing and 60mm ball bearing) and about a thousand other laying around at the shop so if I ever wanted to add the bottom fan as an intake that would still be an option. That would help the video card most likely since the air would go straight up into the video card fan. As it stands now, I have 8 fans: 120mm blue LED front fan 120mm blue LED rear fan 90mm DBB front fan 90mm DBB rear fan 92mm(?) Intel HSF fan 80mm(?) MSI dual slot fan 111mm SB expansion slot fan 80mm DBB power supply fan The PSU fan is the only one that is thermally controlled. I cranked the Intel HSF fan up to 100% in the BIOS and the video card fan up to 100% with Rivatuner. Surprisingly, I haven't really noticed much of a difference with the extra 90mm fan in the front. Hopefully I will get some pics in here when I have some time to take them to help others who have wanted to also mount the 90mm fan in front with their Armor case. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 03:33 PM	#283 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,135 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: lets see your rig Haw do i get unthermal contorled matt bios has no option __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-04-2007, 03:40 PM	#284 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig Do you have a 3-pin or 4-pin CPU fan connector? __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 03:41 PM	#285 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,135 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: lets see your rig 4 its from intel =) the as5 made the difference of the fan spinning slower at the same temp lol __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-04-2007, 03:45 PM	#286 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig If your board also has the 4-pin connector (and the 4th pin isn't just hanging off), then theoretically cutting the PWM wire (usually blue) will make the fan go up to 100%. It really depends on the BIOS though. Another option is to get a 3-pin to 4-pin adapter and plug the CPU fan into the power supply, but your system might not start saying CPU fan failure. A way to get around this (when using this solution) is to connect the +12v pin and the GND pin with a resistor (around 100 ohms would be sufficient). This will make the board think there is a fan connected when there is really a resistor. You might also have to do something with the other pin where the sensor wire would be connected. I will have to investigate that further if you go that route. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides Last edited by TheMatt : 09-04-2007 at 03:50 PM.

09-04-2007, 03:49 PM	#287 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,135 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: lets see your rig my system has a hard time starting without a case fan plugged into the board and the board is a 4pin, maybe i should w8 untill i have the money for a cpu cooler and try it and if it doesnt work go buy one? __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-04-2007, 03:58 PM	#288 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig If you happen to have spare wires/alligator clips around you can test it by connecting each pin to the header with a wire/alligator clip combo. Do not connect the PWM wire though. See what happens. How many case fans do you have? __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 04:08 PM	#289 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,135 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: lets see your rig I have a 120mm in back a 80mm on top and a 80mm in front, what are the clip things i do have another heatsink+fan that has a 4 piner but its all aluminum and i dont want to take off this cpus fan yet because the as5 install was perfect yesterday __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-04-2007, 04:14 PM	#290 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig The blue PWM wire is the one to clip. This sometimes speeds the fan up to 100%. Remember the AS5 has a break in period, so after a couple weeks your temps should be lower. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 04:16 PM	#291 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,135 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: lets see your rig yes but the fan speed will just go lowwer....and how do you clip it or like post a picture of what to buy? __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-04-2007, 04:17 PM	#292 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: lets see your rig A wire cutter will work. Just cut the wire. I will have to test it out and get a picture. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 04:26 PM	#293 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,135 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: lets see your rig I dont want to cut it if it is going to hate me it already does for not letting it control my case fans __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \|