First time PC builder, need some opinions

ExtremeD23 · 07-29-2005, 08:30 AM

Hey everyone, this is my first time building a PC from scratch. I already have this mobo/cpu and this power supply. Here is my delimma, I'm looking at a cpu fan and heat sink, and so far I've narrowed it down to these two options; either this fan/heatsink or this heatsink and this fan . I just wanted to get your opinions on what would be the best option.

madley · 07-29-2005, 09:06 AM

Well i think your psu is the not that good.

You pay only 49.99$ for a 500watt psu.

I have a tagan 480watt and i payed 114$.

So you will have a nice psu with nice lights,and if you are planning to buy a high end vga card you'll have troubles cause your amps on your +12v are too low.

So i advice buying a better/expensive one. The psu is very important to your system!

edit: srry my bad , seems that psu is realy good and very cheap. Hope it works great for you at that price

jflan · 07-30-2005, 10:16 AM

On your for build why even entertain the thought of a bare CPU?
I'm assuming that this bundle includes a bare(not boxed) CPU.
If you source the components separately (Newegg) and get a retail-boxed CPU you will get a three year warranty on the CPU. It will come with an approved HSF. Change it later if needed.
With the bare CPU often-times the warranty period is in months!

I would stay away from that PS. It is marketed on its "Bling Factor" and not on performance. In other words, it's shiny and has pretty lights and I believe that it is the old standard ATX with a single 12v rail.

A couple of good ones off the top are Antec Neopower 480 or for performance with a touch of "bling", look at the Ocz offerings. You want the ATX 2.0 standard.

Good Luck and beware of bling!

**Fr4665** · 07-30-2005, 12:53 PM

he stated that he already has this motherboard and cpu...

i would go with the first one for 40$ looks good and i read some specs, as listed it is really quite which is always nice and has a good airflow. that will asure you that it cools good.

jflan · 07-30-2005, 05:52 PM

Ooops, you're right FR, but Extreme now knows where I stand and the difference between bare and boxed, I guess.

For CPU cooling solutions, they both look good, I'd vote for #1 also, more bang for the buck.

Also, for grins I would peruse the Intel site just to see if there are any approved HSF's listed.

over-n-out

ExtremeD23 · 08-01-2005, 09:24 AM

Hey guys, thank for the input I really appreciate it. Just for the heck of it I looked around for some more HSF and I found one more that piqued my interest; this one. Just wanted to see if you thought it was better than the other one.

**Fr4665** · 08-01-2005, 07:51 PM

get the last one , the TT even better airflow a great bearing and runns nice and quite

gj finding that one

**superflysmith** · 08-02-2005, 02:45 PM

I've got the same processor as you. I had to get the TT Tower 112. This chip runs pretty hot but I've got mine running in the low 30's and with a load in the mid 40's. Also get arctic silver 5. The PSU will be important, I had a generic PSU advertised at 420wts but I didn't even make it out of the bios before the thing blew up.
Good Luck.

ExtremeD23 · 08-02-2005, 04:50 PM

Is this the tower you were talking about;http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106044. If it is was, was it difficult to install. Also did you install any fans on it.

**superflysmith** · 08-02-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeD23

Is this the tower you were talking about;http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106044. If it is was, was it difficult to install. Also did you install any fans on it.

That is the same one and you can get it for a few bucks cheaper at ZipZoomFly . Honestly it was a little hard to install. I had to modify part of the bracket so it would fit on the mobo. I was very scepticle of using this heatsink because it weighs so much but I'm glad I went with it. I also use a tornado fan on it which is pretty loud. But I do have a fan controller so I usually have it turn way down. You should be able to get by with a regular case fan.

boji · 08-02-2005, 10:00 PM

what are you doing for a graphics card and ram. that is where i would put my money. i suppose it is a little late for planning but my advice would have been to use a cheaper board like the asus p4c800e-deluxe ($180 )and load it with good ram. my budget is limited so my choices seem to be with old technology and not the cutting edge. i run a radeon 9800 pro 256 meg card and get decent reults. it is only $185 now. it is on the above board and i use a p4 3 gig cpu. i have only had 2 gigs of ram loaded at the max but it seems to handle all my games well with the 1500mb i am running now. money spent for good ram is never a waste.

ExtremeD23 · 08-02-2005, 11:12 PM

I already have a Nvidia 6800 GT 256, and I have a 1 gig of ram on the way and I am going to order another shortly.

07-29-2005, 08:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
ExtremeD23 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Corydon, IN Posts: 30 OS: WinXP	First time PC builder, need some opinions Hey everyone, this is my first time building a PC from scratch. I already have this mobo/cpu and this power supply. Here is my delimma, I'm looking at a cpu fan and heat sink, and so far I've narrowed it down to these two options; either this fan/heatsink or this heatsink and this fan . I just wanted to get your opinions on what would be the best option. Last edited by ExtremeD23; 07-29-2005 at 08:32 AM.

07-29-2005, 09:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
madley Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 27 OS: win xp x64	Well i think your psu is the not that good. You pay only 49.99$ for a 500watt psu. I have a tagan 480watt and i payed 114$. So you will have a nice psu with nice lights,and if you are planning to buy a high end vga card you'll have troubles cause your amps on your +12v are too low. So i advice buying a better/expensive one. The psu is very important to your system! edit: srry my bad , seems that psu is realy good and very cheap. Hope it works great for you at that price Last edited by madley; 07-29-2005 at 09:09 AM.

07-30-2005, 12:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fr4665 aka mr.fraggs Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA or Germany Posts: 2,965 OS: Win XP,Vista,Android My System	he stated that he already has this motherboard and cpu... i would go with the first one for 40$ looks good and i read some specs, as listed it is really quite which is always nice and has a good airflow. that will asure you that it cools good. __________________ I don't subscribe to threads please PM me if i miss a reply. ------- Everest SensorView Pro DriverCleaner how to fix your game

08-01-2005, 09:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
ExtremeD23 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Corydon, IN Posts: 30 OS: WinXP	Hey guys, thank for the input I really appreciate it. Just for the heck of it I looked around for some more HSF and I found one more that piqued my interest; this one. Just wanted to see if you thought it was better than the other one. Last edited by ExtremeD23; 08-01-2005 at 09:26 AM.

08-01-2005, 07:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fr4665 aka mr.fraggs Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA or Germany Posts: 2,965 OS: Win XP,Vista,Android My System	get the last one , the TT even better airflow a great bearing and runns nice and quite gj finding that one __________________ I don't subscribe to threads please PM me if i miss a reply. ------- Everest SensorView Pro DriverCleaner how to fix your game

07-30-2005, 10:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
jflan Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 935 OS: XP/Puppy 2.14	On your for build why even entertain the thought of a bare CPU? I'm assuming that this bundle includes a bare(not boxed) CPU. If you source the components separately (Newegg) and get a retail-boxed CPU you will get a three year warranty on the CPU. It will come with an approved HSF. Change it later if needed. With the bare CPU often-times the warranty period is in months! I would stay away from that PS. It is marketed on its "Bling Factor" and not on performance. In other words, it's shiny and has pretty lights and I believe that it is the old standard ATX with a single 12v rail. A couple of good ones off the top are Antec Neopower 480 or for performance with a touch of "bling", look at the Ocz offerings. You want the ATX 2.0 standard. Good Luck and beware of bling!

07-30-2005, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
jflan Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 935 OS: XP/Puppy 2.14	Ooops, you're right FR, but Extreme now knows where I stand and the difference between bare and boxed, I guess. For CPU cooling solutions, they both look good, I'd vote for #1 also, more bang for the buck. Also, for grins I would peruse the Intel site just to see if there are any approved HSF's listed. over-n-out

08-02-2005, 02:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
superflysmith An American Hero and Moderator, The Conversation Pit. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,581 OS: XP PRO	I've got the same processor as you. I had to get the TT Tower 112. This chip runs pretty hot but I've got mine running in the low 30's and with a load in the mid 40's. Also get arctic silver 5. The PSU will be important, I had a generic PSU advertised at 420wts but I didn't even make it out of the bios before the thing blew up. Good Luck. __________________ "Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference. Marines don’t have that problem." Bush made the Packers lose

08-02-2005, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
ExtremeD23 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Corydon, IN Posts: 30 OS: WinXP	Is this the tower you were talking about;http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106044. If it is was, was it difficult to install. Also did you install any fans on it.

08-02-2005, 10:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
boji Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: pa Posts: 56 OS: xp	what are you doing for a graphics card and ram. that is where i would put my money. i suppose it is a little late for planning but my advice would have been to use a cheaper board like the asus p4c800e-deluxe ($180 )and load it with good ram. my budget is limited so my choices seem to be with old technology and not the cutting edge. i run a radeon 9800 pro 256 meg card and get decent reults. it is only $185 now. it is on the above board and i use a p4 3 gig cpu. i have only had 2 gigs of ram loaded at the max but it seems to handle all my games well with the 1500mb i am running now. money spent for good ram is never a waste.

08-02-2005, 11:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
ExtremeD23 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Corydon, IN Posts: 30 OS: WinXP	I already have a Nvidia 6800 GT 256, and I have a 1 gig of ram on the way and I am going to order another shortly.