Project Log: Hybrid Twist - Page 4

**magnethead** · 04-06-2008, 05:02 PM

So my dad's going to kansas till thursday- that gives me a good 10 hours of work time on this thing, hopefully i can get close to done. I've got half of the Cd cage done (gotta cut another mount bar, then screw both bars to the case floor), after that it's a matter of shaping the HDD cages out of a sheet metal/plywood composite and mounting that to the top.

Once the 2 cages are mounted, I can trace and cut out the openings for the doors, then bolt in the door guards, door spacers, and the actual doors.

**magnethead** · 04-06-2008, 07:37 PM

Sorry for the multiple updates, but i'm doing what I can while I can.

Gonan pick up some 12" square sheetmetal tomorrow after school. That will be folded in half so I have two strips of 6"x12" metal, which I will drill holes in and customly fabricate into a hard drive cage for 6 hard drives. After that, I will use a bench vise to bend the top 1.5" of each side into an L, then mount the cage by sandwiching the metal between the top panel and a latch block.

Once both cages are mounted, I will trace out the doors and openings.

CD door opening: 5.25" wide by 5.5 inches tall
CD door: 6 inch wide, 6" tall

I can't put the HDD cage as I wanted, the front doors won't clear eachother. Will take up more room, but I can deal with that. I'll just have to cut 3" off the existing side panel and cut a 7" wide piece for the removable panel when i make the new fully removable panel.

Removable side panels will slide down into the slots on bottom, then latch at the top by 2 screws (later to be changed to a keyed lock maybe?). This should still allow the big fans to clear. Once I get measurements made, i'll trace out the holes and mounts for the 2 80mm fans that will blow down onto the motherboard and use a hole saw to cut holes in the mobo tray for cooling and cabling, as well as cut the excess tray off that is not needed for ATX installations (everything to the right of the 10 inch mark).

Will have pics hopefully tomorrow afternoon.

**magnethead** · 04-07-2008, 11:35 AM

So i got called into work today and wont be able to get supplies ect. I'm hoping to have at least an hour of work time tonight but that's likely wishful thinking.

I'm undecided if i'll use this same main side panel or if i'll make a new one that's all one piece. It would help and look better if it was one piece but im not sure how much i have left in back.

The rear panel needs to have the holes opened up a little more but other than that it's pretty close. I'm not sure if i'll use a jog saw or metal shears to cut the excess mobo tray off.

**magnethead** · 04-07-2008, 07:36 PM

Well, CD cage mounted, wiring mockly laid out, and CD door traced. Now to plot out the two forced induction points.

**magnethead** · 04-07-2008, 08:59 PM

The top two fans will blow down onto the CPU and memory, while the front two, in combination with their forced induction, are drawn into the drafting flow across the hard drives and out the top right side fan.

All the circles with exes will be cut out using a 2" hole saw. You'll see what they're for later. Needless to say this power supply aint near powerful enough nor long enough leads, but the picture should be coming together for what's going on. The CD door will go right up to the bottom HDD fan, so i've used up pretty much every lick of space in the case.

If you're wondering why the fans are offset rather than centered, it's so that when the forced induction air meets the passively intakes draw, it will get drafted across whatever components are between the fixed wall and the service panel. OF course, in addition, the big fans will draw the heat directly off of the three most heat producing components- CPU, northbridge, and GPU, with a directly horizontal vacuum draft flow...from where?

Behind all those holes, the fixed panel will have passive vents. So the air will be vacuumed through those ventes, through the mobo tray, against the back side of the mobo (cooling the components from that side, see SATA controller, south bridge, CPU, memory), then down and around the mobo, then up and along the GPU before exiting. As well, it will go over the top, then down along the CPU and mix with the forced air before coming out the top left fan.

**magnethead** · 04-07-2008, 10:11 PM

Well, got bored right before bed, so threw my tester system in it.

All I wanted was to make sure nothing shorted and all the fans for power.

If I cut power to the top fans and top front fan, it's D E A D silent. Which is what the fan controller is for. And that's considering that the fans and pulling acuum air, since none of the holes are cut yet. So they may quieten down once there's less resistance.

Ssrogg · 04-08-2008, 01:15 AM

Should be decently quiet. That plywood should absorb sound nicely. My only concern is that wood is also a good insulator? Trapped heat = not good. The airflow looks like it will make things better, though. Like the idea of the passive vents behind the Mobo. All that wood won't distribute heat like metal will.

Looks good, though. Have fun!

Eric

PS. You're another one I need to teach to resize pics!

800x600ish usually works niceley.

forcifer · 04-08-2008, 07:17 AM

wood still works. i have a pic of 19C with proc in Fired PC (the project thread is called firey PC i think) ill see if i can find you a link. it was meh first true project :)

**magnethead** · 04-08-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssrogg

Should be decently quiet. That plywood should absorb sound nicely. My only concern is that wood is also a good insulator? Trapped heat = not good. The airflow looks like it will make things better, though. Like the idea of the passive vents behind the Mobo. All that wood won't distribute heat like metal will.

Looks good, though. Have fun!

Eric

PS. You're another one I need to teach to resize pics!

800x600ish usually works niceley.

oh i can resize em, i have fireworks and paint shop pro, i'm just too lazy to remmeber to change the camera back to 640 mode. And i copied the full size links not thumbs off PB.

Heat won't be an issue. That's why i'm going abstract with an entire side panel of exhaust.

**magnethead** · 04-08-2008, 11:33 AM

I got the divider and top vent panel cut. Gotta trim them up tonight then i can mount them. Hopefully tonight i'll also get the static panel cut down by 3" to fit the removable service door and get the mobo tray cut down.

**magnethead** · 04-08-2008, 07:58 PM

Video (810 KB)

All that's left is to cut the backside service panel, the main door, and the hard drive cage. Once that's all done, I can start cutting holes for vents, fans, and CD door.

**magnethead** · 04-08-2008, 09:25 PM

Here's what it should look like done..or at least close anyways. The false top, side fans/door, and front door are all that will be different. And that temporary side service panel of course.

The new panel should seal off the gaps where the current moves outward. Plus it'll be screwed in at the top left and right corners.

I'm gonna have to work on the expansion slot panel a litte. It and the mobo tray aren't wanting to stay interlocking like they're supposed to. But i figured out a fix, i just have to see how I want to implement it. If I back the entire tray along the back edge with a 1.5" wide strip of half inch ply that runs the height of the mobo tray, it'll support it enough that they will stay interlocked when adding/removing cards.

**magnethead** · 04-09-2008, 10:55 AM

Well i unexpectingly discovered this morning that the CD cage is just a hair too close toe the side panel for the bottom fan to clear. Also, i notched the divider in the wrong place, so that's gone to the wayside (no real purpose anyways). Still undecided if i'll use the current 3 piece side door or a 1 piece- depends how easy the drives will scoot over a quarter inch.

edit- ok, got drives moved over. now for the trip to town.

**magnethead** · 04-09-2008, 04:35 PM

Well, i'll let the pics do the talking.

All that's left is the screens, false top, hard drive cage, and paint.

And a really hot system to put in it.

**magnethead** · 04-09-2008, 08:55 PM

The ultimate test:

:D

It WILL be a linux machine though. As soon as i get everything set up hardware wise. I'll get it running on 2K, then switch it over to ubuntu so that i know everything aready works when i make the swap.

**magnethead** · 04-09-2008, 09:58 PM

So all I need to do now, is cut the passive intake slots, finish swiss-cheesing the mobo tray, put the false top on it (or at least something to deflect falling objects/dust off the top fans), cut the rest of the CD door hole and put the door on it, make a place for the power switch, and paint it.

I'm thinking a black body, paint all internal metal silver, inside plywood in royal (or dark) blue

04-06-2008, 05:02 PM	#61 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? So my dad's going to kansas till thursday- that gives me a good 10 hours of work time on this thing, hopefully i can get close to done. I've got half of the Cd cage done (gotta cut another mount bar, then screw both bars to the case floor), after that it's a matter of shaping the HDD cages out of a sheet metal/plywood composite and mounting that to the top. Once the 2 cages are mounted, I can trace and cut out the openings for the doors, then bolt in the door guards, door spacers, and the actual doors. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-06-2008, 07:37 PM	#62 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Sorry for the multiple updates, but i'm doing what I can while I can. Gonan pick up some 12" square sheetmetal tomorrow after school. That will be folded in half so I have two strips of 6"x12" metal, which I will drill holes in and customly fabricate into a hard drive cage for 6 hard drives. After that, I will use a bench vise to bend the top 1.5" of each side into an L, then mount the cage by sandwiching the metal between the top panel and a latch block. Once both cages are mounted, I will trace out the doors and openings. CD door opening: 5.25" wide by 5.5 inches tall CD door: 6 inch wide, 6" tall I can't put the HDD cage as I wanted, the front doors won't clear eachother. Will take up more room, but I can deal with that. I'll just have to cut 3" off the existing side panel and cut a 7" wide piece for the removable panel when i make the new fully removable panel. Removable side panels will slide down into the slots on bottom, then latch at the top by 2 screws (later to be changed to a keyed lock maybe?). This should still allow the big fans to clear. Once I get measurements made, i'll trace out the holes and mounts for the 2 80mm fans that will blow down onto the motherboard and use a hole saw to cut holes in the mobo tray for cooling and cabling, as well as cut the excess tray off that is not needed for ATX installations (everything to the right of the 10 inch mark). Will have pics hopefully tomorrow afternoon. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-07-2008, 11:35 AM	#63 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? So i got called into work today and wont be able to get supplies ect. I'm hoping to have at least an hour of work time tonight but that's likely wishful thinking. I'm undecided if i'll use this same main side panel or if i'll make a new one that's all one piece. It would help and look better if it was one piece but im not sure how much i have left in back. The rear panel needs to have the holes opened up a little more but other than that it's pretty close. I'm not sure if i'll use a jog saw or metal shears to cut the excess mobo tray off. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-07-2008, 07:36 PM	#64 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Well, CD cage mounted, wiring mockly laid out, and CD door traced. Now to plot out the two forced induction points. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-07-2008, 08:59 PM	#65 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? The top two fans will blow down onto the CPU and memory, while the front two, in combination with their forced induction, are drawn into the drafting flow across the hard drives and out the top right side fan. All the circles with exes will be cut out using a 2" hole saw. You'll see what they're for later. Needless to say this power supply aint near powerful enough nor long enough leads, but the picture should be coming together for what's going on. The CD door will go right up to the bottom HDD fan, so i've used up pretty much every lick of space in the case. If you're wondering why the fans are offset rather than centered, it's so that when the forced induction air meets the passively intakes draw, it will get drafted across whatever components are between the fixed wall and the service panel. OF course, in addition, the big fans will draw the heat directly off of the three most heat producing components- CPU, northbridge, and GPU, with a directly horizontal vacuum draft flow...from where? Behind all those holes, the fixed panel will have passive vents. So the air will be vacuumed through those ventes, through the mobo tray, against the back side of the mobo (cooling the components from that side, see SATA controller, south bridge, CPU, memory), then down and around the mobo, then up and along the GPU before exiting. As well, it will go over the top, then down along the CPU and mix with the forced air before coming out the top left fan. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 04-07-2008 at 09:09 PM.

04-07-2008, 10:11 PM	#66 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Well, got bored right before bed, so threw my tester system in it. All I wanted was to make sure nothing shorted and all the fans for power. If I cut power to the top fans and top front fan, it's D E A D silent. Which is what the fan controller is for. And that's considering that the fans and pulling acuum air, since none of the holes are cut yet. So they may quieten down once there's less resistance. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-08-2008, 01:15 AM	#67 (permalink)
Ssrogg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 137 OS: Vista	Re: call me crazy? Should be decently quiet. That plywood should absorb sound nicely. My only concern is that wood is also a good insulator? Trapped heat = not good. The airflow looks like it will make things better, though. Like the idea of the passive vents behind the Mobo. All that wood won't distribute heat like metal will. Looks good, though. Have fun! Eric PS. You're another one I need to teach to resize pics! 800x600ish usually works niceley. Last edited by Ssrogg : 04-08-2008 at 01:21 AM.

04-08-2008, 07:17 AM	#68 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,464 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: call me crazy? wood still works. i have a pic of 19C with proc in Fired PC (the project thread is called firey PC i think) ill see if i can find you a link. it was meh first true project :)

04-08-2008, 11:33 AM	#70 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? I got the divider and top vent panel cut. Gotta trim them up tonight then i can mount them. Hopefully tonight i'll also get the static panel cut down by 3" to fit the removable service door and get the mobo tray cut down. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-08-2008, 07:58 PM	#71 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Video (810 KB) All that's left is to cut the backside service panel, the main door, and the hard drive cage. Once that's all done, I can start cutting holes for vents, fans, and CD door. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 04-08-2008 at 08:24 PM.

04-08-2008, 09:25 PM	#72 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Here's what it should look like done..or at least close anyways. The false top, side fans/door, and front door are all that will be different. And that temporary side service panel of course. The new panel should seal off the gaps where the current moves outward. Plus it'll be screwed in at the top left and right corners. I'm gonna have to work on the expansion slot panel a litte. It and the mobo tray aren't wanting to stay interlocking like they're supposed to. But i figured out a fix, i just have to see how I want to implement it. If I back the entire tray along the back edge with a 1.5" wide strip of half inch ply that runs the height of the mobo tray, it'll support it enough that they will stay interlocked when adding/removing cards. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-09-2008, 10:55 AM	#73 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Well i unexpectingly discovered this morning that the CD cage is just a hair too close toe the side panel for the bottom fan to clear. Also, i notched the divider in the wrong place, so that's gone to the wayside (no real purpose anyways). Still undecided if i'll use the current 3 piece side door or a 1 piece- depends how easy the drives will scoot over a quarter inch. edit- ok, got drives moved over. now for the trip to town. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 04-09-2008 at 11:11 AM.

04-09-2008, 04:35 PM	#74 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Well, i'll let the pics do the talking. All that's left is the screens, false top, hard drive cage, and paint. And a really hot system to put in it. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-09-2008, 08:55 PM	#75 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? The ultimate test: :D It WILL be a linux machine though. As soon as i get everything set up hardware wise. I'll get it running on 2K, then switch it over to ubuntu so that i know everything aready works when i make the swap. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 04-09-2008 at 08:59 PM.

04-09-2008, 09:58 PM	#76 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? So all I need to do now, is cut the passive intake slots, finish swiss-cheesing the mobo tray, put the false top on it (or at least something to deflect falling objects/dust off the top fans), cut the rest of the CD door hole and put the door on it, make a place for the power switch, and paint it. I'm thinking a black body, paint all internal metal silver, inside plywood in royal (or dark) blue __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.