Project Log: Hybrid Twist - Page 3

**magnethead** · 01-25-2008, 10:38 PM

so, to further save $$$, here's what i'm looking at- Take the $30 i saved from switching mobo's and CPU's, make the case bigger, and get 3 250mm armor fans for 20 bucks each as upposed to 2 200's for 30 each. Require me to remake nearly the whole case, but I could make do with it. Plus it would be 100% quiet less the 120mm rear fan (no 120mm front fan anymore), and even then, i could use a switch to control that fan as either on or off, and remove the need for a fan controller altogether (saving more money).

Origional price list:

CPU: 48
MB: 85
PSU: 40
memory: 30
2 200's- 60
1 250- 25
1 120- 15
fan controller- 20

new price list:
CPU- 40
mobo- 65
PSU- 20
memory- 30?
3 250s- 60

net savings- $108 give or take

not bad, eh?

Fans are ordered. Good thing i bought 8 foot of 1x3, i'll need all of it. The tray mounting system should stay intact, just everything around it will change up. The 3.5" audio/I/O front panel should be able to be set in horizontally now.

**TheMatt** · 01-26-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

PSU- $20

At the very least pick up an Antec Earthwatts 380W for $40 or $50.

**magnethead** · 01-26-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMatt

At the very least pick up an Antec Earthwatts 380W for $40 or $50.

they're on sale with a $30 mail-in rebate till the 31st.

**TheMatt** · 01-27-2008, 09:59 AM

I would pick up one of those. It will be better than a cheap 400W or 450W power supply.

**magnethead** · 01-31-2008, 06:51 PM

well here's the update- my dads home sick so i cant work on it, the fans come tuesday, and i have a case redesign in mind-

window screen over fans (stapled in)

2" wide fascia edges attached to side doors

vertically mounted PSU

pre-ran electrical routing channels (plexi covered of course every 4" to contain wires) to HDD & CD drive bays (molex/SATA) as well as motherboard (P4 & ATX)

**magnethead** · 02-01-2008, 11:47 AM

so now the design is 3 5.25 bays, 2 external 3.5 bays, 10 hard drives, and the triple 250's with a 120 out back. Windows will be 12"x18" vertically, as each sheet is 18x24. OS will be dual boot Ubuntu and XP, all accessory (non-boot) drives will be FAT32. Will evetually have a pair of 320 GB drives on my 7006-2 RAID card for 640 GB. MB has 4 SATA ports, RAID will use 2 ports, so that's 6 Hard drives out of 10 slots. So room to grow without doubt.

forcifer · 02-01-2008, 02:41 PM

sounds good and all...but...you need some pics. thats the best thing about work log :) people get to see what you have been doing

**magnethead** · 02-01-2008, 04:01 PM

once my dad' gets unsick and starts going to work again (medical industry...might be awhile),i'll have more pics.

**magnethead** · 02-02-2008, 08:13 PM

My dad has to be in KC monday so i'll get to work on it then, and he has to go to temple on wednesday so that'll be more time. Hopefully I'll get something done both nights and have some pics to post. Plus i'll know the coast will be clear for the fans to arrive. Front panel is going to be quite odd looking, 10.5" wide at the bottom for the fan, but quickly necking down to 8.5 inches (3/4 off each side) for side window clearencing. So the side panels will need to be 3/4 of an inch longer then the case for the correct front overhang.

**magnethead** · 02-02-2008, 09:00 PM

Here's the latest rendering. Blue is what will be seen with the fascia..brown is the actual chassis shape. Large to accomodate the fan mounting holes, small to clear all the bolts for the side fan and plexi. Yes i'll be covering some of the front fan, but it shouldn't be enough surface area to matter too much.

**magnethead** · 02-05-2008, 11:02 AM

Well, fans came in. I can see where TT made the CFM/pressure/RPM balance- Nearly no blade pitch, hardly any RPM, and only 60 CFM. But it's also on 15 decibels. I'd have rather got a 200 antec since i KNOW they push some air pressure, but i saved money instead. Airflow is airflow, and i can still feel it, just not like the 200's. Also got the panel's recut. Should be able to re-assemble the outer casing sometime soon.

**magnethead** · 04-01-2008, 07:20 PM

So, here's the developments:

back to the origional casing

all 3 250's wille xhaust out the side panel (scream at me for going abstandard, i dont care)

Front panel will have a door on it for HDD access...but you won't really be able to tell much

those 3 250's will be the ONLY major fans on the case. Will have between 2 and 4 silent 80mm fans on it for directional intake, beyond that, it's passive intake vents. (Yes i know 180 CFM is alot of intake. It's an entire case-full per second.)

The 5.25 bays (3 of them- CD, fan control, and USB/front panel) will all be mounted internally and accessed through sliding doors. 1 door will be 2 bays high and slide up, bottom will be 1 bay high and slide down.

forcifer · 04-01-2008, 07:27 PM

TOOK YA LONG ENOUGH

haha glad to have you back. looking good from what i have seen

**magnethead** · 04-01-2008, 07:45 PM

add a false top "hat" to the idea pot to help orient the intake for non-dust purposes.

**magnethead** · 04-02-2008, 09:49 PM

removable side panel:

Front panel on left, top panel on right:

slots will be cut out for air intake

forcifer · 04-03-2008, 07:27 AM

looks good :) get a proper name for this log though

01-25-2008, 10:38 PM	#41 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? so, to further save $$$, here's what i'm looking at- Take the $30 i saved from switching mobo's and CPU's, make the case bigger, and get 3 250mm armor fans for 20 bucks each as upposed to 2 200's for 30 each. Require me to remake nearly the whole case, but I could make do with it. Plus it would be 100% quiet less the 120mm rear fan (no 120mm front fan anymore), and even then, i could use a switch to control that fan as either on or off, and remove the need for a fan controller altogether (saving more money). Origional price list: CPU: 48 MB: 85 PSU: 40 memory: 30 2 200's- 60 1 250- 25 1 120- 15 fan controller- 20 new price list: CPU- 40 mobo- 65 PSU- 20 memory- 30? 3 250s- 60 net savings- $108 give or take not bad, eh? Fans are ordered. Good thing i bought 8 foot of 1x3, i'll need all of it. The tray mounting system should stay intact, just everything around it will change up. The 3.5" audio/I/O front panel should be able to be set in horizontally now. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 01-25-2008 at 10:56 PM.

01-27-2008, 09:59 AM	#44 (permalink)
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01-31-2008, 06:51 PM	#45 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? well here's the update- my dads home sick so i cant work on it, the fans come tuesday, and i have a case redesign in mind- window screen over fans (stapled in) 2" wide fascia edges attached to side doors vertically mounted PSU pre-ran electrical routing channels (plexi covered of course every 4" to contain wires) to HDD & CD drive bays (molex/SATA) as well as motherboard (P4 & ATX) __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

02-01-2008, 11:47 AM	#46 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? so now the design is 3 5.25 bays, 2 external 3.5 bays, 10 hard drives, and the triple 250's with a 120 out back. Windows will be 12"x18" vertically, as each sheet is 18x24. OS will be dual boot Ubuntu and XP, all accessory (non-boot) drives will be FAT32. Will evetually have a pair of 320 GB drives on my 7006-2 RAID card for 640 GB. MB has 4 SATA ports, RAID will use 2 ports, so that's 6 Hard drives out of 10 slots. So room to grow without doubt. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

02-01-2008, 02:41 PM	#47 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,464 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: call me crazy? sounds good and all...but...you need some pics. thats the best thing about work log :) people get to see what you have been doing

02-01-2008, 04:01 PM	#48 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? once my dad' gets unsick and starts going to work again (medical industry...might be awhile),i'll have more pics. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

02-02-2008, 08:13 PM	#49 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? My dad has to be in KC monday so i'll get to work on it then, and he has to go to temple on wednesday so that'll be more time. Hopefully I'll get something done both nights and have some pics to post. Plus i'll know the coast will be clear for the fans to arrive. Front panel is going to be quite odd looking, 10.5" wide at the bottom for the fan, but quickly necking down to 8.5 inches (3/4 off each side) for side window clearencing. So the side panels will need to be 3/4 of an inch longer then the case for the correct front overhang. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 02-02-2008 at 08:21 PM.

02-02-2008, 09:00 PM	#50 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Here's the latest rendering. Blue is what will be seen with the fascia..brown is the actual chassis shape. Large to accomodate the fan mounting holes, small to clear all the bolts for the side fan and plexi. Yes i'll be covering some of the front fan, but it shouldn't be enough surface area to matter too much. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

02-05-2008, 11:02 AM	#51 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? Well, fans came in. I can see where TT made the CFM/pressure/RPM balance- Nearly no blade pitch, hardly any RPM, and only 60 CFM. But it's also on 15 decibels. I'd have rather got a 200 antec since i KNOW they push some air pressure, but i saved money instead. Airflow is airflow, and i can still feel it, just not like the 200's. Also got the panel's recut. Should be able to re-assemble the outer casing sometime soon. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-01-2008, 07:20 PM	#52 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? So, here's the developments: back to the origional casing all 3 250's wille xhaust out the side panel (scream at me for going abstandard, i dont care) Front panel will have a door on it for HDD access...but you won't really be able to tell much those 3 250's will be the ONLY major fans on the case. Will have between 2 and 4 silent 80mm fans on it for directional intake, beyond that, it's passive intake vents. (Yes i know 180 CFM is alot of intake. It's an entire case-full per second.) The 5.25 bays (3 of them- CD, fan control, and USB/front panel) will all be mounted internally and accessed through sliding doors. 1 door will be 2 bays high and slide up, bottom will be 1 bay high and slide down. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 04-01-2008 at 07:35 PM.

04-01-2008, 07:27 PM	#53 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,464 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: call me crazy? TOOK YA LONG ENOUGH haha glad to have you back. looking good from what i have seen

04-01-2008, 07:45 PM	#54 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? add a false top "hat" to the idea pot to help orient the intake for non-dust purposes. __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it. Last edited by magnethead : 04-01-2008 at 08:09 PM.

04-02-2008, 09:49 PM	#55 (permalink)
magnethead TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 819 OS: XPH, 2K My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: call me crazy? removable side panel: Front panel on left, top panel on right: slots will be cut out for air intake __________________ I'm not the world's greatest speller. Deal with it.

04-03-2008, 07:27 AM	#56 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,464 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: call me crazy? looks good :) get a proper name for this log though