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Old 07-28-2007, 01:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Over heating Case

Hey, I recently got a new PC and it started to over heat e.g it would go from 31 in idle to 60-70 when working. Should i add another Fan?

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Old 07-28-2007, 06:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Over heating Case

How many case fans do you have, I do not see a rear fan (psu does not count) typically you'll want at least one fan in front pulling in air and one in the back pulling it out
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is this the CPU tempreture your talking about? Make sure there is no dust clogging the heatsink. Although looking at the pictures your case is clean.


Edit - I notice you have room for a Fan at the back, and one at the front. I recommend Buying a two fans and fitting them.

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Old 07-28-2007, 08:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm just buying one (For now) Is this a good fan? Click Here
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi


Thats a good fan, but make sure it fits. Looking at it it looks like 80mm fans for the rear and a 120mm fan for the front.
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Tricool fans are noisy get one with less decibels.
You should put the biggest fan you can in the front and the back (The bigger they are the slower they turn and the quieter they are) this causes the air to flow in from the front across the mobo and out the back
A minimum of TWO fans are needed not one
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That fan has a very low cfm rating (does not move a lot of air) you want a fan that moves the most anount of air (high cfm) for the least amount of noise. Check your case manual or the mfg website to make sure what size fans fit your case. For my money I prefer Panaflo fans, they typically have high cfm for a lower than avg noise.
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Why is there a minimum of two fans?
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Tricool fans are noisy get one with less decibels.
You should put the biggest fan you can in the front and the back (The bigger they are the slower they turn and the quieter they are) this causes the air to flow in from the front across the mobo and out the back
A minimum of TWO fans are needed not one
I differ.

My antec 900 cae has 3 120mm tri-cools, and onlow they move 40 CFM and the hard drives (3 of them) are louder than the fans.

And there is no minimum for fans. I have a sigma in my closet with 384 RAM, a 800 MHz slot 1 processor, and the only fan is the one on the CPU (as in no case fans). And it runs absolutely fine with XP.
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Hmm i have changed my Fan to This One. If you find a better one in stock on that site post here please :)
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Why is there a minimum of two fans?
You need to get an airflow across the mobo and two fans do this better than one, why risk your Cpu when for just a few dollars more you can have great cooling
The pictures you posted show that a front and back fan would be very easy to fit as it looks like it has the mounting holes there already

@magnethead my antec 900 is quiet on low also but it has more than two fans so they only need to work on low. In a case with 2 fans you need to run them at medium to high (Very Noisy)
Just read the comments in the case mod forums on the 900 the main winge is the noise of the fans.
That said I run all my fans on low and like yours the hardrives are noisier than the fans
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I see your point i might post a 120mm Fan.
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Should i get a Red Or a Green Fan?
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Theres no difference between the Red or green fan ( Just the colour ofcourse ). Although the Red is nice.
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With a120mm fan you may get away with one in winter but i think you will need two for summer.
Check what connection that fan has (3 or4 pin) as it does not state it in the advertisement
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Nayyou can get away with one 80mm in the summer i do...in arizona....with a pd......
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I have neither a fan at the front, Nor a fan at the back, but my Celeron 2ghz rig sits at 30-40degrees under load.


I think you could get away with one fan.
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fellas you are missing a BIG piece of the puzzle


slot one 800mhz processors and 2.0 mhz Celerons couldnt be pushed hard enough to EVER reach 60C at anything!


so therefore what you are "getting" away with on those rigs really has no benefit to what the OP's problem is.


I agree with Kodi 100% >>>>> any recent release processor of the last two years of newer should MOST definetly be fitted with TWO fans.

Fans are dirt cheap compared to burnt motherboards, CPU's, PSU's, memory sticks etc

heat is the single biggest killer of computer parts; what in HADES is gained by squeaking by with less fans ?????

a 10C increase in the CPU temp will reduce 50% of its life span
same thing with a PSU >>>> an increase of 10C reduces a PSU's capacitors life span by 50% !!!!!! The power supply gets its "cool" air from inside the computer box~~~~~ not outside the box



all my computer builds go out the door with a minimum of 240 mm of fan air, and I have not had one service call for heat problems or burnt parts from heat since.

if you bring in air with a 80mm fan you should be bringing air out with a minimum of 80mm fan

I far prefer to use 2 x 120mm fans of the very high RPM version (2800 rpm)

I never mess with cool and quiet or any other "noise reducing" hog wash, cool saves $$$$$$$$ >>>>>> thats a fact

quiet is hotter >>>>> very simple actually

good quality fans will make less noise, have higher rpm's and the 120's of course will move more air than an 80mm with less noise

FOR ANYONE who thinks two fans is not needed, you better have a look at a top of the line case; like the Coolermaster Stacker 832

how is NINE fans

the average person isnt running an ultra high end performance machine that needs to be housed in the stacker 832, but the days of no case fans or one 80 mm is loooooooooooong ago passed us by >>>>>

if noise is your beef, turn up your music or open your wallet >>>>>> your choice


I love "other shops" quiet builds; I make good money fixing them!
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I'm still trying to figure out what summer & winter has to do with how many fans you run . Do you guy's not have HVAC? I pretty much keep my house @ around 70 degrees year round and It did not save my emachine with only ONE case fan from kicking bucket after only a years service (I learned the hard way)

Do your self a favor and by at least TWO case fans! Spend a little now or spend a lot later...

Besides keeping your case cooler, the fans will also add some more bling, bling

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Re: Over heating Case

Listen to Kodi and Joe
Heat will slowly break down your components, and sometimes quickly.
Summertime brings about heat calls like clockwork. Many households and apartments cant afford air conditioning, and they depend on ceiling fans, which doesnt really benefit the computer.
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