Building and Learning

salar · 11-05-2009, 06:40 AM

Hello And Good Evening
Recently I've been playing new games like Prototype and GTA IV that needs to load up with a good CPU and with my current CPU the game faces LAGG but is working...
I was about to buy a new very good CPU that kills the games but the problem is that I'm Kinda new to the world of computer and don't know alot about CPUS that what type is for gaming and what type is for non gaming acts and etc...
Here is my current system info :
Intell (R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz 3.21 GHz
1 GB of ram
Geforce 7600 GS 512 memory

I think my computer has got old and needs to be changed for the new incoming games and Programs that destroys hardware by using it's abilities ...
Please notice me if the other parts of my pc like ram or graphic is not good enough and needs to be changed

I'm about to buy each of them less that 100$

I was wondering if there is a way by the internet to find out which cpu is suitable for an option like gaming or programing and etc ...What I mean is about something like a chart that shows CPUS and starts from the best CPU to the rubbish one

same as other cards

Thanks for any advice
Salar

**Tyree** · 11-05-2009, 07:09 AM

From what I understand, you want to build a new PC?
Check this thread for some ideas.
Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec

salar · 11-05-2009, 08:32 AM

Mostly the CPU is in my mind to be changed ...anyways thanks to you and linderman for the link you just gave me ...
Going to check it

**Tyree** · 11-05-2009, 08:48 AM

Your P4 3.2 is probably the best you're going to do without changing Mobo's & RAM.
Including all of your PC specs. makes it easier for us to give you relative information.

salar · 11-05-2009, 08:49 AM

Ok i had a question
if i buy this CPU=Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
am i able to play strong games and how can i compare this CPU with the requirement CPU of a game to see which is better in any case?
because i found this site http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php that in there when i click on a CPU name it shows CPUses charts and compare each other but i am not sure that this comparison is about being better...ok let me to tell more cleanly :
Is there any site to say that this CPU is better than that CPU???

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 08:51 AM

The E8400 is a very good gaming CPU, but it is not compatible with your motherboard. It won't even fit in the socket.

As for a chart of what CPUs are better that what, not really. Different types of CPU are better at different things. It's more than just GHz!

salar · 11-05-2009, 08:58 AM

ok is there any cpu that is very good for gaming even strong ones and is compatible with Mboard and not higher than 100$???

Madcatz · 11-05-2009, 08:59 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...hmarks,60.html

just click on the benchmark test or game and it will show you a chart of how different CPU's performed. But different CPU's will be better at certain things. The E8400 and E8500 have a very high clock speed which games love.

The E8400 is capable of playing every game that is out right now and surpases even the recommended processor settings by far. The E8400 and E8500 are two of the best and most affordable gaming CPU's there are.

As for finding a processor for your motherboard, we would need to know the brand and model of your motherboard. But like tyree said, you already have a 3.2ghz processor, you won't find many that are much faster than you would notice a difference.

If you want to upgrade, it would be better to upgrade CPU, motherboard, and memory.

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

ok is there any cpu that is very good for gaming even strong ones and is compatible with Mboard and not higher than 100$???

Not really. If knew the model of your motherboard we might be able to tell you if you can use a Pentium D. But your CPU is probably close to the best you can use. Also if you want to game your current card will only manage low settings in most modern games. And a graphics card upgrade would probably require a new power supply.

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyree

Your P4 3.2 is probably the best you're going to do without changing Mobo's & RAM.
Including all of your PC specs. makes it easier for us to give you relative information.

i didn't get it...which part you mean to be changed?

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:08 AM

Gigabyte is my mother board's brand...is it enough or i should tell more details about my MotherBoard???

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 09:09 AM

We need the model #, it should be printed somewhere close to the CPU socket.

Madcatz · 11-05-2009, 09:09 AM

we would need to know the model also

Edit: lol Phaedrus snuck in there...he's very very sneaky, lol

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madcatz

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...hmarks,60.html

just click on the benchmark test or game and it will show you a chart of how different CPU's performed. But different CPU's will be better at certain things. The E8400 and E8500 have a very high clock speed which games love.

The E8400 is capable of playing every game that is out right now and surpases even the recommended processor settings by far. The E8400 and E8500 are two of the best and most affordable gaming CPU's there are.

As for finding a processor for your motherboard, we would need to know the brand and model of your motherboard. But like tyree said, you already have a 3.2ghz processor, you won't find many that are much faster than you would notice a difference.

If you want to upgrade, it would be better to upgrade CPU, motherboard, and memory.

wow thx

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 09:12 AM

Basically if you want to play modern games on decent settings you'd need to upgrade:

Motherboard
CPU
RAM
Graphics card
Power supply

So essentially a whole new computer, just keeping the old drives. And you'd probably want a new case for the build as well.

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:17 AM

ok ill see about the model...but if i want to upgrade as you said ,which Motherboard
CPU
RAM
Graphics card
Power supply
u suggest ?

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:23 AM

is there any software to identify my motherboard's model?

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 09:31 AM

Use this: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

I have class soon, but if you can give me a budget of how much you want to spend, and a list of same games you'd like to play I can think on it and make suggestions when I get back.

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:54 AM

lol i just opend the case thx
Here is my MotherBoard details
Gigabyte
GA-945p-s3

salar · 11-05-2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phædrus2401

Use this: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

I have class soon, but if you can give me a budget of how much you want to spend, and a list of same games you'd like to play I can think on it and make suggestions when I get back.

something between 300~500$ if possible and thanks for the helping

11-05-2009, 06:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Building and Learning Hello And Good Evening Recently I've been playing new games like Prototype and GTA IV that needs to load up with a good CPU and with my current CPU the game faces LAGG but is working... I was about to buy a new very good CPU that kills the games but the problem is that I'm Kinda new to the world of computer and don't know alot about CPUS that what type is for gaming and what type is for non gaming acts and etc... Here is my current system info : Intell (R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz 3.21 GHz 1 GB of ram Geforce 7600 GS 512 memory I think my computer has got old and needs to be changed for the new incoming games and Programs that destroys hardware by using it's abilities ... Please notice me if the other parts of my pc like ram or graphic is not good enough and needs to be changed I'm about to buy each of them less that 100$ I was wondering if there is a way by the internet to find out which cpu is suitable for an option like gaming or programing and etc ...What I mean is about something like a chart that shows CPUS and starts from the best CPU to the rubbish one same as other cards Thanks for any advice Salar Last edited by salar; 11-05-2009 at 06:51 AM.

11-05-2009, 07:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,393 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Building and Learning From what I understand, you want to build a new PC? Check this thread for some ideas. Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

11-05-2009, 08:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning Mostly the CPU is in my mind to be changed ...anyways thanks to you and linderman for the link you just gave me ... Going to check it Last edited by salar; 11-05-2009 at 09:01 AM.

11-05-2009, 08:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,393 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Building and Learning Your P4 3.2 is probably the best you're going to do without changing Mobo's & RAM. Including all of your PC specs. makes it easier for us to give you relative information. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

11-05-2009, 08:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning Ok i had a question if i buy this CPU=Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 am i able to play strong games and how can i compare this CPU with the requirement CPU of a game to see which is better in any case? because i found this site http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php that in there when i click on a CPU name it shows CPUses charts and compare each other but i am not sure that this comparison is about being better...ok let me to tell more cleanly : Is there any site to say that this CPU is better than that CPU??? Last edited by salar; 11-05-2009 at 08:50 AM.

11-05-2009, 08:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,721 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building and Learning The E8400 is a very good gaming CPU, but it is not compatible with your motherboard. It won't even fit in the socket. As for a chart of what CPUs are better that what, not really. Different types of CPU are better at different things. It's more than just GHz! __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-05-2009, 08:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning ok is there any cpu that is very good for gaming even strong ones and is compatible with Mboard and not higher than 100$???

11-05-2009, 08:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
Madcatz Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,387 OS: XP/7/Server 2008 My System	Re: Building and Learning http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...hmarks,60.html just click on the benchmark test or game and it will show you a chart of how different CPU's performed. But different CPU's will be better at certain things. The E8400 and E8500 have a very high clock speed which games love. The E8400 is capable of playing every game that is out right now and surpases even the recommended processor settings by far. The E8400 and E8500 are two of the best and most affordable gaming CPU's there are. As for finding a processor for your motherboard, we would need to know the brand and model of your motherboard. But like tyree said, you already have a 3.2ghz processor, you won't find many that are much faster than you would notice a difference. If you want to upgrade, it would be better to upgrade CPU, motherboard, and memory. __________________ memtest86+ \| Hard Drive Diags \| Speed Fan \| Unknown Device Identifier Last edited by Madcatz; 11-05-2009 at 09:04 AM.

11-05-2009, 09:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning Gigabyte is my mother board's brand...is it enough or i should tell more details about my MotherBoard???

11-05-2009, 09:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,721 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building and Learning We need the model #, it should be printed somewhere close to the CPU socket. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-05-2009, 09:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
Madcatz Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,387 OS: XP/7/Server 2008 My System	Re: Building and Learning we would need to know the model also Edit: lol Phaedrus snuck in there...he's very very sneaky, lol __________________ memtest86+ \| Hard Drive Diags \| Speed Fan \| Unknown Device Identifier

11-05-2009, 09:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,721 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building and Learning Basically if you want to play modern games on decent settings you'd need to upgrade: Motherboard CPU RAM Graphics card Power supply So essentially a whole new computer, just keeping the old drives. And you'd probably want a new case for the build as well. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-05-2009, 09:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning ok ill see about the model...but if i want to upgrade as you said ,which Motherboard CPU RAM Graphics card Power supply u suggest ?

11-05-2009, 09:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning is there any software to identify my motherboard's model?

11-05-2009, 09:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,721 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building and Learning Use this: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php I have class soon, but if you can give me a budget of how much you want to spend, and a list of same games you'd like to play I can think on it and make suggestions when I get back. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-05-2009, 09:54 AM	#19 (permalink)
salar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 40 OS: XP Service Pack 2 - XP Service Pack 3	Re: Building and Learning lol i just opend the case thx Here is my MotherBoard details Gigabyte GA-945p-s3