Building a new computer, suggestions? - Page 2

rebornhalo · 11-04-2009, 10:00 PM

I do like how the I5 build would cost less, But i'm just thinking ahead. When i do get a second 5870 (When you can find more than one, lol) It would preform better on the i7 build, No? So i think i'd be okay with spending a little more, for a little better performance now, and better upgradability later. With that build i posted i go over my 1700 budget by about 30 dollars, Which i can deal with. So, that's my opinion, Do you really think i should save money now and go with an i5 build which would have decreased performance later as opposed to the i7? Your opinion means more than mine, You far surpass my knowledge of computers. ^^ question is open to anyone.

And Watercooling! Is there a good one i could buy or one i could buy the parts seperately for that would work nicely with this? i'd love to have my system running cool...

Phædrus2401 · 11-04-2009, 10:14 PM

Right now the 5870 is the best card available. Two of them, even at some future point, is probably unnecessary. Also Crossfire doesn't really shine unless you have a 1920x1200 or greater monitor. If you really want two 5870s it might be best to wait a month or two for the Radeon 5870x2 to come out, so that you won't have to worry about having two separate cards.

As for watercooling, a good kit will cost you $200+, and it's a lot of work to maintain. You'll want to make sure you know what you're getting into before going with watercooling. If you want the option of overclocking your CPU you can get a pretty good aftermarket CPU heatsink for ~$45-60.

rebornhalo · 11-04-2009, 10:46 PM

Alright then, Forget watercooling. I would mess up the computer, anyhow. Can you recommend some fans or heatsinks that would make all the parts in my computer run smoothly. I would like them to run as cold as possible. And I was just going to get one card for now. But if i needed it, Even if it was three or four years down the road, I'd be able to just buy one card and be fine, rather than an entire new setup. And i posted up a moniter with a 1920x1200 that i asked was alright, No response. So i'm thinking about getting that one. So with everything, What do you suggest, Do you still stand by your i5 build?

JCP21 · 11-05-2009, 02:17 PM

^^^ Good point, i would only go wiht i7 if you have alot of money

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 02:20 PM

It's really up to you. If you really want to go i7 then that's your choice and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just that I usually don't consider the performance increase to be worth the extra couple hundred bucks. If you want to spend your money on that extra boost, that is entirely your choice. I've just been trying to say that the i5 is nearly as good for quite a bit less.

rebornhalo · 11-05-2009, 03:11 PM

Alright i'll go with your I5 build there. You've convinced me. But maybe you could double check for me one last time. the last specs i posted had an alternative mobo/ram/cpu. would those three be as good as what you suggested? If i'm going to go with this i5 build i want to be able to overclock it the best i can =)

Phædrus2401 · 11-05-2009, 03:31 PM

You mean the i5 750, Asus P7P55D, and OCZ RAM? Yup, that should be a pretty good setup.

**linderman** · 11-05-2009, 04:03 PM

if you want the most ........i5 board and i7 860 socket 1156

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-214-_-Product

**wrench97** · 11-05-2009, 04:46 PM

There is a combo deal on that setup> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.291915

rebornhalo · 11-06-2009, 10:06 AM

Well as for that combo deal, That's getting to the point where i might as well go with the i7. It wouldn't be that much more, With more upgrades in the future. Honestly i'm fine with dropping some money now to save some later, Since i do plan on upgrading later if i have troubles. So! again! would the i7 build be a good build, for plans to upgrade later, maybe?

rebornhalo · 11-06-2009, 11:07 AM

And if i wanted to go watercooling..

Reservoir,Pump and LCD display: http://xoxide.com/thermaltake-aquabay-m5.html
Radiator: Not sure which one would fit a Haf932, Or maybe i Should get a different Case if im going to go with water cooling? Help here?
Water Blocks : http://xoxide.com/swiftech-mcw60-vga-waterblock.html
http://xoxide.com/swiftech-apogee-gtz-waterblock.html
Tubing: Which would fit?
Fluid: http://xoxide.com/primoice-nonconduc...uid-clear.html

I'm aware it's costly but eh, I think it'll be worth it if i want to overclock the best i can.
so! suggestions, and will all of that be compatible? =) I love you guys for all of the help <3

**wrench97** · 11-06-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rebornhalo

Well as for that combo deal, That's getting to the point where i might as well go with the i7. It wouldn't be that much more, With more upgrades in the future. Honestly i'm fine with dropping some money now to save some later, Since i do plan on upgrading later if i have troubles. So! again! would the i7 build be a good build, for plans to upgrade later, maybe?

The 1156 socket is newer then the 1366, as for upgrades I would suspect it will last as long or longer then the 1366.

Phædrus2401 · 11-06-2009, 11:56 AM

The 1366 is going to have fewer upgrade options. Your choices would be either Core i9 which is going to be six cores at a low clock speed, which sucks for gaming, or $500+ Core i7s.

rebornhalo · 11-07-2009, 07:05 AM

Alllright. So most of my build is set in stone. I'm probably going to go with an i5 board with an i7 core. Would everyone say that, that would be alright?

**wrench97** · 11-07-2009, 11:07 AM

As in a i7 860? Good CPU.

rebornhalo · 11-07-2009, 01:38 PM

CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115214
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131405

That okay? Maybe a different motherboard, I'm not sure what would be the best for overlocking the 860..

**wrench97** · 11-07-2009, 02:40 PM

That board will OC nicely, as with all i5/i7's keep the voltages low.

rebornhalo · 11-07-2009, 06:37 PM

Alright. So.

Case Haf932 or the antec 1200. Depending on if i find a water cooling system, i might find a case with less fans and a bigger window, Suggestions here? (I like to show off =) )
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115214
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231282
Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 , Might get two, or find a better raid combo, Suggestions?
CD Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106335
Video Card: Sapphire 5870.
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131405
Power Supply:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139007
Moniter: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236047 (NOT being payed for by me, So i found a good one?)

And maybe some arctic silver 5 thermal stuffs. Watercooling is an option. Im still debating. But i can do that on my own, As well as the case. The hardware that i have, It's all compatible and, at least decent for the money for overlocking? Is there any extra cables i'll need to buy? Anything i'm missing here now?

Thank y'all so much. <3

**grimx133** · 11-07-2009, 09:36 PM

I like the monitor choice. Have a 24" Asus with 1920x1200 resolution that has been great, much better than the 22" Samsung with 1680x1050 that I use on my main machine. Movies look great with the higher resolution and physical size.

rebornhalo · 11-07-2009, 09:55 PM

How much did your 24 cost at 1920x1200? The other asus 24'' on newegg only went up to 1920x1080. Where did you purchase yours and for how much? I might take the size hit for a lower cost =)

11-04-2009, 10:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? I do like how the I5 build would cost less, But i'm just thinking ahead. When i do get a second 5870 (When you can find more than one, lol) It would preform better on the i7 build, No? So i think i'd be okay with spending a little more, for a little better performance now, and better upgradability later. With that build i posted i go over my 1700 budget by about 30 dollars, Which i can deal with. So, that's my opinion, Do you really think i should save money now and go with an i5 build which would have decreased performance later as opposed to the i7? Your opinion means more than mine, You far surpass my knowledge of computers. ^^ question is open to anyone. And Watercooling! Is there a good one i could buy or one i could buy the parts seperately for that would work nicely with this? i'd love to have my system running cool...

11-04-2009, 10:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,834 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? Right now the 5870 is the best card available. Two of them, even at some future point, is probably unnecessary. Also Crossfire doesn't really shine unless you have a 1920x1200 or greater monitor. If you really want two 5870s it might be best to wait a month or two for the Radeon 5870x2 to come out, so that you won't have to worry about having two separate cards. As for watercooling, a good kit will cost you $200+, and it's a lot of work to maintain. You'll want to make sure you know what you're getting into before going with watercooling. If you want the option of overclocking your CPU you can get a pretty good aftermarket CPU heatsink for ~$45-60. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-04-2009, 10:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? Alright then, Forget watercooling. I would mess up the computer, anyhow. Can you recommend some fans or heatsinks that would make all the parts in my computer run smoothly. I would like them to run as cold as possible. And I was just going to get one card for now. But if i needed it, Even if it was three or four years down the road, I'd be able to just buy one card and be fine, rather than an entire new setup. And i posted up a moniter with a 1920x1200 that i asked was alright, No response. So i'm thinking about getting that one. So with everything, What do you suggest, Do you still stand by your i5 build?

11-05-2009, 02:17 PM	#24 (permalink)
JCP21 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 18 OS: Windows 7	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? ^^^ Good point, i would only go wiht i7 if you have alot of money

11-05-2009, 02:20 PM	#25 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,834 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? It's really up to you. If you really want to go i7 then that's your choice and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just that I usually don't consider the performance increase to be worth the extra couple hundred bucks. If you want to spend your money on that extra boost, that is entirely your choice. I've just been trying to say that the i5 is nearly as good for quite a bit less. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-05-2009, 03:11 PM	#26 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? Alright i'll go with your I5 build there. You've convinced me. But maybe you could double check for me one last time. the last specs i posted had an alternative mobo/ram/cpu. would those three be as good as what you suggested? If i'm going to go with this i5 build i want to be able to overclock it the best i can =)

11-05-2009, 03:31 PM	#27 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,834 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? You mean the i5 750, Asus P7P55D, and OCZ RAM? Yup, that should be a pretty good setup. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-05-2009, 04:03 PM	#28 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,440 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? if you want the most ........i5 board and i7 860 socket 1156 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-214-_-Product __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 11-05-2009 at 04:07 PM.

11-05-2009, 04:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,658 OS: Win7	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? There is a combo deal on that setup> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.291915 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

11-06-2009, 10:06 AM	#30 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? Well as for that combo deal, That's getting to the point where i might as well go with the i7. It wouldn't be that much more, With more upgrades in the future. Honestly i'm fine with dropping some money now to save some later, Since i do plan on upgrading later if i have troubles. So! again! would the i7 build be a good build, for plans to upgrade later, maybe?

11-06-2009, 11:07 AM	#31 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? And if i wanted to go watercooling.. Reservoir,Pump and LCD display: http://xoxide.com/thermaltake-aquabay-m5.html Radiator: Not sure which one would fit a Haf932, Or maybe i Should get a different Case if im going to go with water cooling? Help here? Water Blocks : http://xoxide.com/swiftech-mcw60-vga-waterblock.html http://xoxide.com/swiftech-apogee-gtz-waterblock.html Tubing: Which would fit? Fluid: http://xoxide.com/primoice-nonconduc...uid-clear.html I'm aware it's costly but eh, I think it'll be worth it if i want to overclock the best i can. so! suggestions, and will all of that be compatible? =) I love you guys for all of the help <3

11-06-2009, 11:56 AM	#33 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,834 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? The 1366 is going to have fewer upgrade options. Your choices would be either Core i9 which is going to be six cores at a low clock speed, which sucks for gaming, or $500+ Core i7s. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

11-07-2009, 07:05 AM	#34 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? Alllright. So most of my build is set in stone. I'm probably going to go with an i5 board with an i7 core. Would everyone say that, that would be alright?

11-07-2009, 11:07 AM	#35 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,658 OS: Win7	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? As in a i7 860? Good CPU. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

11-07-2009, 01:38 PM	#36 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115214 Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131405 That okay? Maybe a different motherboard, I'm not sure what would be the best for overlocking the 860..

11-07-2009, 02:40 PM	#37 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,658 OS: Win7	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? That board will OC nicely, as with all i5/i7's keep the voltages low. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

11-07-2009, 06:37 PM	#38 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? Alright. So. Case Haf932 or the antec 1200. Depending on if i find a water cooling system, i might find a case with less fans and a bigger window, Suggestions here? (I like to show off =) ) Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115214 Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231282 Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 , Might get two, or find a better raid combo, Suggestions? CD Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106335 Video Card: Sapphire 5870. Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131405 Power Supply:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139007 Moniter: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236047 (NOT being payed for by me, So i found a good one?) And maybe some arctic silver 5 thermal stuffs. Watercooling is an option. Im still debating. But i can do that on my own, As well as the case. The hardware that i have, It's all compatible and, at least decent for the money for overlocking? Is there any extra cables i'll need to buy? Anything i'm missing here now? Thank y'all so much. <3

11-07-2009, 09:36 PM	#39 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,153 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? I like the monitor choice. Have a 24" Asus with 1920x1200 resolution that has been great, much better than the 22" Samsung with 1680x1050 that I use on my main machine. Movies look great with the higher resolution and physical size. __________________

11-07-2009, 09:55 PM	#40 (permalink)
rebornhalo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 19 OS: windows xp	Re: Building a new computer, suggestions? How much did your 24 cost at 1920x1200? The other asus 24'' on newegg only went up to 1920x1080. Where did you purchase yours and for how much? I might take the size hit for a lower cost =)