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Old 11-01-2009, 01:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Buy or Build? (specifications included)

I'm looking to get a new computer that can run:
Pure - racing game
Spore - higher settings?
source games; Portal - higher settings?

So my family came up with these minimal requirements:

Duo core - or up
2.8 ghz - clock speed is flexible
4 GB memory - could be bigger
500 GB hard drive - could be bigger
DVD drive - not blue ray (could upgrade later for cheaper)
128/256 MB gpu, directX 10 or better - memory could be better

Found these on newegg (any suggestions? One of these or a different one?):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883113102 - $570
Gateway DX4820-01
Core 2 Quad Q8300(2.50GHz)
6GB DDR3
750GB
Intel GMA X4500
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227165 - $700
iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 905i
Core i5 750(2.66GHz)
4GB DDR3
500GB
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit - Free MS Windows 7 upgrade


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883229143 - $770
CyberpowerPC Gamer Infinity 6315
Core 2 Duo E8400(3.00GHz)
4GB DDR2
500GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883113110 - $790
Gateway DX4822-03
Core 2 Quad Q8400(2.66GHz)
8GB DDR2
1TB
NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883113106 - $800
Gateway DX4820-02
23" Widescreen LCD - (screen included in price, approximate value = $170)
Core 2 Quad Q8400(2.66GHz)
8GB DDR3
750GB
NVIDIA GeForce G210
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit

That's about what we found.
I don't think any of those (maybe the gamer infinity 6315) meet our needs exactly so I started looking at building,
but with the price of vista or 7 (dependent on version) anywhere from $100 to $250 I don't think
I can build the pc I want for less than one of these.

Anyone got advice on which way to go:
  1. Buy one of these or similar pc from newegg or other seller.
  2. Buy and upgrade a cheaper pc like the Gateway at the top of the list.
  3. Build from scratch!
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Old 11-01-2009, 01:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Buy or Build? (specifications included)

Build from scratch. You'll save money and get a better computer.

What's your budget? For $800 you could build a pretty good gaming computer that exceeds your requirements by a mile. For $600 you could still build a pretty ok computer that still exceeds your requirements.
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Wow, really because I've got a approximate budget of $700-$800 with OS

This is what I found for a computer build (just a simple frame for a build):

ASUS P5QL/EPU LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard = $80
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz = $168
4GB A=DATA DDR2 800 = $55
640GB HDD = $70
video card = $60
case = $65
Power Supply = $70
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner SATA = $31
windows 7 = $180
extra's / shipping = $30
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total = $798

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Re: Buy or Build? (specifications included)

Definitely build yourself if possible. Prebuilts tend to use low quality parts...particularly the power supply.

Have you looked at this thread?
Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec

Team Mate Phædrus2401 posted this $650 gaming build.
$650 gaming build
I also noted in Post#3 that Windows 7 listed at $180. The Upgrade version of 7 Premium is $119 and many places have it for $100.
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Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R Intel P45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128359
$119.99 - $15 MIR

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0Ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037
$167.99

RAM:
OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800 CL5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227199
$79.99

Graphics card:
PowerColor Radeon HD 5770 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131181
$159.99

Power supply:
Corsair VX550W
http://www.frys.com/product/5539820?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG (out of stock at newegg, had to go to Frys)
$79.99

Hard drive:
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320
$69.99

Optical drive:
Lite-On iHAS-324-98 DVD buner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106334
$31.99

Operating system:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754
$106.99

TOTAL: $816.92
- MIR: $801.92




EDIT: The $188 version of Windows 7 is the "full" retail version. Don't get the retail version, because you're paying $75 more for things you will never use. The OEM version of Windows 7 is only $107 and is just the operating system and basic software, and that should be all you need.




EDIT #2: Gaaah. I left out a case? Dur dur dur. I'll have to cut something else to fit it in under budget... maybe cut the graphics card down to a 5750 and the CPU to an E7600. That gives you ~$50 to play with for a case, that would buy you an Antec 200 or 300 or CM Centurion 5.
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Ok, Thanks!

Tyree, yes, I think I've looked at the building thread before.

Phædrus2401 what you named off for parts seems to make good building sense.
Although, I was noticing that the gamer infinity 6315 has close to the same specs your build parts would have, other than the better motherboard and video card.
Also quality should be better?
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They use lower-quality parts. The parts most often skimped on are the power supply (a cheap 700W can be worse than a quality 550W), the motherboard (notice they don't specify the brand; probably a cheap Foxconn board), and the graphics card and RAM (they tend to use cheap off-brands). I will say that would be a good price; it might be on clearance. I still wouldn't recommend buying it, though, plus it's out of stock.
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