Australian Building a Computer - Page 2

dai · 09-13-2009, 03:24 AM

yes it should
the recommended psu list is out of date and does not cover the 4890

KharnakIHazWoW · 09-13-2009, 03:26 AM

No that was just a reply to dan101 :) but yes, that power supply will work with that setup, i vote you should go for the 850w corsair instead tho, cos you might want to upgrade in the future, and the PSU is the part you dont want to cut down on.

dan101 · 09-13-2009, 05:27 AM

Dia, does PLE alow you to pick up your order? Is it like a store where you can shop for stuff or is it a office?

dai · 09-13-2009, 06:04 AM

yes it is a shop

i prefer to order over the net as i usually order sufficient to get free delivery

http://ple.com.au/?p=contact

dan101 · 09-13-2009, 06:41 AM

this is my final choice. What do you think? :P

KharnakIHazWoW · 09-13-2009, 08:14 AM

Well, if i am to be honest, the CPU is overkill, what do you want to do with it?... For gaming, a E5300 would do, and a nice mobo like the P5Q Pro or similar.. The E5300 could get above 3.6ghz easily, and no games need more than that, at all.

**Tyree** · 09-13-2009, 09:55 AM

Personally, I feel the i7 is overpriced and not a good investment at this time.
A 775 chipped Mobo will give you equal performance for much less money and you don't have the DDR3 worries.
An P45 chipped Asus or GB Mobo combined with an E8400 CPU and the other parts you have listed will give excellent gaming performance.

**linderman** · 09-13-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyree

personally, i feel the i7 is overpriced and not a good investment at this time.
A 775 chipped mobo will give you equal performance for much less money and you don't have the ddr3 worries.
An p45 chipped asus or gb mobo combined with an e8400 cpu and the other parts you have listed will give excellent gaming performance.

ditto

dan101 · 09-13-2009, 07:24 PM

so this would be better than a i7?

http://www.netplus.com.au/product/CP...GA775-BOX-45nm

edit - the ati radeon 4890 runs at 84ºC. Is this a problem?

KharnakIHazWoW · 09-14-2009, 01:38 AM

The 4890 doesnt run at 84 degrees, it CAN, but it doesnt. Q6600 with a thermalright ultra 120 extreme.

Dont take the e8500, more money for almost nothing compared to the E8400.

Overclock the E8400 just by 600mhz and you wont need to change for a year or two. And then, you can overclock it by more than 1.4ghz if you feel like.

Just be sure to get a E8400 with E0 stepping (E-zero) or the Q6600 quad core (abit more future proof imo?)

Get a X48 mobo maybe, so you can crossfire OR sli in the future.

And the best cooler along with any of those is the Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme. Arctic Silver 5 as thermal paste of course.

dan101 · 09-14-2009, 02:45 AM

That case ill probably go for a Phenom II Quad Core. Is this I good idea idk :S

**linderman** · 09-14-2009, 08:32 AM

The E8500 is worth every penny of the extra $20.00 to buy one ? anyone can overclock the E8500 to 4.0ghz where as the E8400 struggles a bit more and the individuals experience level must be a tad higher

then Phenom DENEB core is a good choice if youre sold on quad cores ? personally IMHO they are hardware that most users cant fully use unless your into intensive photoshop or auto cad rendering; such apps like that can perform tasks out of sequence so to speak therefore all four cores can really be put to work, but apps like games cant be run out of sequence much at all

dan101 · 09-15-2009, 01:00 AM

Will the 1366 sockets support the future octo core? Because if it does ill probably get an i7

dai · 09-15-2009, 01:17 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3326&p=3

dan101 · 09-15-2009, 02:35 AM

ok so they look like they will, but its unsure.

dai · 09-15-2009, 05:17 AM

i thought the initial ones would be for server boards

dan101 · 09-15-2009, 05:34 AM

huh? what?

dai · 09-15-2009, 05:47 AM

from what i found they are meant to run in a duel cpu server m/board

there was also something else that mentioned a new chip that runs as a single cpu in server board
aimed at small to large business,which usually indicates very expensive

http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.p...=29544&catid=2

09-13-2009, 03:24 AM	#21 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,609 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Australian Building a Computer yes it should the recommended psu list is out of date and does not cover the 4890 __________________

09-13-2009, 03:26 AM	#22 (permalink)
KharnakIHazWoW Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 138 OS: Windows Vista Ulti 32bit	Re: Australian Building a Computer No that was just a reply to dan101 :) but yes, that power supply will work with that setup, i vote you should go for the 850w corsair instead tho, cos you might want to upgrade in the future, and the PSU is the part you dont want to cut down on. __________________ Notice: If you notice this notice you will notice that this notice is not worth noticing: Never use fire as a hat!

09-13-2009, 05:27 AM	#23 (permalink)
dan101 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 49 OS: winxp	Re: Australian Building a Computer Dia, does PLE alow you to pick up your order? Is it like a store where you can shop for stuff or is it a office? __________________ ?

09-13-2009, 06:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,609 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Australian Building a Computer yes it is a shop i prefer to order over the net as i usually order sufficient to get free delivery http://ple.com.au/?p=contact __________________

09-13-2009, 06:41 AM	#25 (permalink)
dan101 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 49 OS: winxp	Re: Australian Building a Computer this is my final choice. What do you think? :P __________________ ?

09-13-2009, 08:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
KharnakIHazWoW Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 138 OS: Windows Vista Ulti 32bit	Re: Australian Building a Computer Well, if i am to be honest, the CPU is overkill, what do you want to do with it?... For gaming, a E5300 would do, and a nice mobo like the P5Q Pro or similar.. The E5300 could get above 3.6ghz easily, and no games need more than that, at all. __________________ Notice: If you notice this notice you will notice that this notice is not worth noticing: Never use fire as a hat!

09-13-2009, 09:55 AM	#27 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,579 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Australian Building a Computer Personally, I feel the i7 is overpriced and not a good investment at this time. A 775 chipped Mobo will give you equal performance for much less money and you don't have the DDR3 worries. An P45 chipped Asus or GB Mobo combined with an E8400 CPU and the other parts you have listed will give excellent gaming performance. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-13-2009, 07:24 PM	#29 (permalink)
dan101 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 49 OS: winxp	Re: Australian Building a Computer so this would be better than a i7? http://www.netplus.com.au/product/CP...GA775-BOX-45nm edit - the ati radeon 4890 runs at 84ºC. Is this a problem? __________________ ? Last edited by dan101; 09-13-2009 at 07:42 PM.

09-14-2009, 01:38 AM	#30 (permalink)
KharnakIHazWoW Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 138 OS: Windows Vista Ulti 32bit	The 4890 doesnt run at 84 degrees, it CAN, but it doesnt. Q6600 with a thermalright ultra 120 extreme. Dont take the e8500, more money for almost nothing compared to the E8400. Overclock the E8400 just by 600mhz and you wont need to change for a year or two. And then, you can overclock it by more than 1.4ghz if you feel like. Just be sure to get a E8400 with E0 stepping (E-zero) or the Q6600 quad core (abit more future proof imo?) Get a X48 mobo maybe, so you can crossfire OR sli in the future. And the best cooler along with any of those is the Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme. Arctic Silver 5 as thermal paste of course. __________________ Notice: If you notice this notice you will notice that this notice is not worth noticing: Never use fire as a hat! Last edited by KharnakIHazWoW; 09-14-2009 at 01:48 AM.

09-14-2009, 02:45 AM	#31 (permalink)
dan101 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 49 OS: winxp	Re: Australian Building a Computer That case ill probably go for a Phenom II Quad Core. Is this I good idea idk :S __________________ ?

09-14-2009, 08:32 AM	#32 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Australian Building a Computer The E8500 is worth every penny of the extra $20.00 to buy one ? anyone can overclock the E8500 to 4.0ghz where as the E8400 struggles a bit more and the individuals experience level must be a tad higher then Phenom DENEB core is a good choice if youre sold on quad cores ? personally IMHO they are hardware that most users cant fully use unless your into intensive photoshop or auto cad rendering; such apps like that can perform tasks out of sequence so to speak therefore all four cores can really be put to work, but apps like games cant be run out of sequence much at all __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

09-15-2009, 01:00 AM	#33 (permalink)
dan101 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 49 OS: winxp	Re: Australian Building a Computer Will the 1366 sockets support the future octo core? Because if it does ill probably get an i7 __________________ ?

09-15-2009, 01:17 AM	#34 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,609 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Australian Building a Computer http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3326&p=3 __________________

09-15-2009, 02:35 AM	#35 (permalink)
dan101 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 49 OS: winxp	Re: Australian Building a Computer ok so they look like they will, but its unsure. __________________ ?

09-15-2009, 05:17 AM	#36 (permalink)
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09-15-2009, 05:34 AM	#37 (permalink)
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09-15-2009, 05:47 AM	#38 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,609 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Australian Building a Computer from what i found they are meant to run in a duel cpu server m/board there was also something else that mentioned a new chip that runs as a single cpu in server board aimed at small to large business,which usually indicates very expensive http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.p...=29544&catid=2 __________________ Last edited by dai; 09-15-2009 at 05:48 AM.