My Barbone Kit, Compatibility

proagony · 09-08-2009, 05:27 PM

A barebone kit from tigerdirect. They send me this system with these parts installed, except for the video card and the operating system. So I buy/install those two.

Asus M3N72-D SLI Barebone Kit - nForce 750a, AMD Phenom X4 9600, 4GB OCZ DDR2-800, 500GB Caviar Green HDD, Ultra Case, 650W PSU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...96929&CatId=31 $399

Comes with kit, pre-installed by professional.
Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Asus M3N72-D SLI Motherboard
AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor
OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory
Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive

All I need to get besides that are a graphics card and an operating system. I already have Windows Xp Pro SP3 with a valid key, and I'm not ready to dish out more for vista. Will this system work with XP? I realize I will not get DirectX 10 and such. I have both 64, and 32 bit XP disks. What are the pros/cons of a 64 bit OS?

As for the graphics card, I decided to get a budget card to run in this for now, and upgrade to a much better one at Christmas. (I'm only playing source engine games atm, hl2 ect.)

I'm thinking to start with this card:
Radeon HD 4650 1GB GDDR2 $50-60
or
Nvidia Geforce 9500GT 1GB DDR2$50-60

They are both around the same price. Can anyone give me some insight on performance? I'll be playing Half-Life 2 games on the source engine. Counter-Strike: Source, Team Fortress 2, Garry's Mod and such. Maybe some left for dead.

And at Christmas upgrade to:
EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 and then a bit along the road, a second one in sli maybe. Does xp 64 support sli? Will this system run this card in sli fine? What do I need to do about cooling...

Will any three of these cards have problems running on this system, or windows xp 32/64 bit?

proagony · 09-08-2009, 06:07 PM

Here is an update.

Kit: $399 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...96929&CatId=31

Includes:
Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Asus M3N72-D SLI Motherboard
AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor
OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory
Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive

Not included:
Graphics Card: $56 HIS Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Operating System: Windows XP 64 bit (I own)

Then this Christmas, update graphics card to EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB ddr3 (maybe even 2 in SLI)

Will it all work fine?

**Tyree** · 09-09-2009, 07:38 AM

A Dual Core CPU is a better choice for gaming.
Ultra PSU's are NOT good.
XP will work with no problems.
One good graphics card is all you need. You will not see enough increase in performance to justify the added expense of two.
The 4650 is a decent card. For ATI chipped graphics cards, I prefer Sapphire & PowerColor.

proagony · 09-09-2009, 02:15 PM

Thanks for the response. I guess I will choose another barebone kit then. Can you help me select one? I'd really like something that I would be able to upgrade later on.

proagony · 09-09-2009, 02:22 PM

I have $500 total as a budget. I know how to assemble a computer from parts, so I figured might as well save some money by getting a barebone. I'm not a hardcore gamer, I don't play farcry 2, crysis all the time. I play steam games like l4d, cod 4, hl2.

proagony · 09-09-2009, 03:01 PM

D: I think I'll just stick to the Quad Core, because the dual core kits come with more generic parts. Why do Ultra PSU's suck? (Got 3 year warranty)

I'm going to add two 120mm fans to the case for extra cooling, because my room gets warm sometimes.

So...Here is what I got ATM. All good? Worth the price? Runs source engine games fine? (Also I own bioshock, and never beat it. Will this run bioshock at all low?) Oh and I love my CRT, so I'm using 1024x768 for everything.

Kit: $399 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...96929&CatId=31

Includes:
Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case (Adding two of THESE)
Asus M3N72-D SLI Motherboard
AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor
OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory
Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive

Not included:
Graphics Card: $56 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Operating System: Windows XP 64 bit (I own)

EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB ddr3 (Possible christmas upgrade)

**wrench97** · 09-09-2009, 03:57 PM

Ultra are low quality PSU's that lack the quality internal protection circuitry of better PSU's, a lot of the time when they go bad they will take components with them.
The Ultra cases may look nice but are made very cheaply.

Another point to bring up while the Phenom II(x4 955) CPU's are are nearly as good for gaming as the Intel Core2Duo E8400/E8500 the older Phenom I(x4 9xxx) core is slower.

Have a look over this build as a starting point using quality parts and giving you room for future upgrades.
Link Disc Price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128378 GA-MA790XT-UD4P $139.99 -$15.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103674 PII x4 955 $189.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220410 ram $85.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102854 HD4670 $66.69
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9005&Tpk=650tx 650TX $99.99 -$20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068 Cent 5 Case $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 WD 640 $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827140041 DVD Burner $33.99

$740.63 -$20.00
$720.63

**Tyree** · 09-09-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proagony

D: I think I'll just stick to the Quad Core, because the dual core kits come with more generic parts. Why do Ultra PSU's suck? (Got 3 year warranty)

Your choice on the Quad Core.
The 3 yr. warranty doesn't make the Ultra good quality and it doesn't cover any other hardware it takes with it when it fails.
The PSU is absolutely the one thing you do not want to skimp on.

proagony · 09-10-2009, 02:37 PM

I really appreciate the help guys, I just can't do 720 right now. And the other kits i found just aren't that great. What should I expect out of a computer for 500 anyways lol.

Any comments on this one? Any bad parts? Will this thing last me awhile playing source games at 1024x768? Can I maybe upgrade it to a slightly better card, or is the PSU in it not enough?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883229117

Phædrus2401 · 09-10-2009, 02:43 PM

A new computer for $500? If it's just the hardware you're looking at medium-low end gaming performance at best. If it's hardware+operating system it'll be bottom-of-the-barrel gaming, or a mid-range office computer. The PC you've linked to looks alright, though I'm not extremely familiar with CyberpowerPC. It's about what you could build on your own for that cost, only with generic components instead of quality. It will give you medium-low settings in most games on an average resolution.

Barebones kits aren't worth it a lot of the time. As you've said, most of the "low end" (not ridiculously overpriced) ones have cheap, generic hardware. You could get much better results buying the case, motherboard, CPU, and RAM independently.

**wrench97** · 09-10-2009, 02:59 PM

Do you have an existing PC to rob the DVD and hard drive from?
The x4 CPU can drop to the Phenom x2 550 and shave $87 off the price above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103680
The DVD and hard drive another $109 to get you into the $500 ball park with a decent system.

proagony · 09-10-2009, 03:04 PM

I have Windows XP 32, and 64 bit OS already with valid keys. So OS is no issue.
I also already have a DVD RW drive so that's out of the picture.

I'm looking for cheap good quality parts instead of expensive low quality parts.

I know $500 still is stretching it for a gaming computer. But like I've said I don't play the new games. I might play the single players, beat them, and quit. My BFG Geforce 6800GT OC played fallout 3 at 800x600 (which i dont mind) low settings getting 50fps. I had fun, and beat the game, and went back to my older games. My 3ghz P4, and my 6800GT and 2GB ram have been working fine for the games I play. So I don't see why I need expensive parts. I would like to be able to use something like and 8800GT or 9800GT just to run my old games a bit better.

proagony · 09-10-2009, 03:05 PM

Oh wrench, just read your message :O I already have a dvd drive and and OS. I have a harddrive, but it's IDE so i should probably get the sata. I will never fill 640GB though. I could settle for 160gb lol.

**wrench97** · 09-10-2009, 03:22 PM

Drop the drive to a 250Gig(cheaper then a 160Gig) for $47.99
I also found a Combo deal on a gigabyte board and the CPU so have a look over this.

Link Disc Price
MotherBoard CPU Combo deal GIGABYTE GA-MA785G-UD3H & X2 550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.254089 PII x2 550 $181.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220410 ram $85.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102854 HD4670 $66.69
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9005&Tpk=650tx 650TX $99.99 -$20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068 Cent 5 Case $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136161 WD250 $47.99

$532.64 -$20.00
$512.64

proagony · 09-10-2009, 03:29 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103688
AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128394
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148395
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145256
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042
Antec 300 Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371020
Antec TruePower ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE

All for $374...And all free shipping because they are all in combos....
Do any of those suck?

I have like $130 left for a graphics card.

Wrench, just saw you posted, going to read it now.

proagony · 09-10-2009, 03:59 PM

I don't really need the phenom, a dual core athlon is fine for what I play. I've got a ton of help from you guys! I really appriciate it.

My question now is, are any of the parts i listed above bad quality? any known problems? As long as they don't blow up when I put them together I don't care.

Those parts plus a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (kind of over kill for what i play) but I would like to be able to beat the newer games on single-player once.

All together was like $500 (including shipping)

**wrench97** · 09-10-2009, 03:59 PM

The Antec PSU is not what they once were we have all seen issues over the last couple of years with them.

The Athlon II 240 is quite a bit slower then the Phenom II x2 for gaming.

Micro Atx boards usually don't have the as good a set up for chipset cooling as Atx boards important factor on AMD boards.

proagony · 09-10-2009, 04:17 PM

NOOO DREAMS = CRUSHED

I know the athlon ii 240 is slower, but i dont need an uber fast one for source games/ diablo 2 / warcraft 3 (those games from from 2004 and before) and when i play newer games its just for a couple hours a day to beat the game.

Will these parts work together though? And without any immediate issues? I can add an extra fan to keep them a bit cooler...

My computer (P4 Prescott 3GHz, 2GB ram, geforce 6800GT) runs everything I play totally fine. It was all going good until my 6800GT fan broke. Now it runs hot. So Instead of upgrading that old comp, i wanted to get a newer, but still low-end computer. So as long as these parts are compatible with each other and better than my old system, I'm happy as can be.

**wrench97** · 09-10-2009, 04:21 PM

Yes they are all compatible, but I would pass on the Antec PSU.
What PSU do you currently have?

proagony · 09-10-2009, 04:26 PM

My current one is an OLD (2005) 520 watt.

BUT I just realized I took your advice from earlier and put the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 in my cart, so the $500 (with shipping) included that PSU you linked...So this will all work fine? I know it will fit my needs.

09-08-2009, 05:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	My Barbone Kit, Compatibility A barebone kit from tigerdirect. They send me this system with these parts installed, except for the video card and the operating system. So I buy/install those two. Asus M3N72-D SLI Barebone Kit - nForce 750a, AMD Phenom X4 9600, 4GB OCZ DDR2-800, 500GB Caviar Green HDD, Ultra Case, 650W PSU http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...96929&CatId=31 $399 Comes with kit, pre-installed by professional. Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Asus M3N72-D SLI Motherboard AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive All I need to get besides that are a graphics card and an operating system. I already have Windows Xp Pro SP3 with a valid key, and I'm not ready to dish out more for vista. Will this system work with XP? I realize I will not get DirectX 10 and such. I have both 64, and 32 bit XP disks. What are the pros/cons of a 64 bit OS? As for the graphics card, I decided to get a budget card to run in this for now, and upgrade to a much better one at Christmas. (I'm only playing source engine games atm, hl2 ect.) I'm thinking to start with this card: Radeon HD 4650 1GB GDDR2 $50-60 or Nvidia Geforce 9500GT 1GB DDR2$50-60 They are both around the same price. Can anyone give me some insight on performance? I'll be playing Half-Life 2 games on the source engine. Counter-Strike: Source, Team Fortress 2, Garry's Mod and such. Maybe some left for dead. And at Christmas upgrade to: EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 and then a bit along the road, a second one in sli maybe. Does xp 64 support sli? Will this system run this card in sli fine? What do I need to do about cooling... Will any three of these cards have problems running on this system, or windows xp 32/64 bit?

09-08-2009, 06:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Here is an update. Kit: $399 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...96929&CatId=31 Includes: Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Asus M3N72-D SLI Motherboard AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive Not included: Graphics Card: $56 HIS Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Operating System: Windows XP 64 bit (I own) Then this Christmas, update graphics card to EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB ddr3 (maybe even 2 in SLI) Will it all work fine?

09-09-2009, 07:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,525 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility A Dual Core CPU is a better choice for gaming. Ultra PSU's are NOT good. XP will work with no problems. One good graphics card is all you need. You will not see enough increase in performance to justify the added expense of two. The 4650 is a decent card. For ATI chipped graphics cards, I prefer Sapphire & PowerColor. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-09-2009, 02:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Thanks for the response. I guess I will choose another barebone kit then. Can you help me select one? I'd really like something that I would be able to upgrade later on.

09-09-2009, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility I have $500 total as a budget. I know how to assemble a computer from parts, so I figured might as well save some money by getting a barebone. I'm not a hardcore gamer, I don't play farcry 2, crysis all the time. I play steam games like l4d, cod 4, hl2.

09-09-2009, 03:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility D: I think I'll just stick to the Quad Core, because the dual core kits come with more generic parts. Why do Ultra PSU's suck? (Got 3 year warranty) I'm going to add two 120mm fans to the case for extra cooling, because my room gets warm sometimes. So...Here is what I got ATM. All good? Worth the price? Runs source engine games fine? (Also I own bioshock, and never beat it. Will this run bioshock at all low?) Oh and I love my CRT, so I'm using 1024x768 for everything. Kit: $399 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...96929&CatId=31 Includes: Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower Case (Adding two of THESE) Asus M3N72-D SLI Motherboard AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Hard Drive Not included: Graphics Card: $56 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Operating System: Windows XP 64 bit (I own) EVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB ddr3 (Possible christmas upgrade)

09-09-2009, 03:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Ultra are low quality PSU's that lack the quality internal protection circuitry of better PSU's, a lot of the time when they go bad they will take components with them. The Ultra cases may look nice but are made very cheaply. Another point to bring up while the Phenom II(x4 955) CPU's are are nearly as good for gaming as the Intel Core2Duo E8400/E8500 the older Phenom I(x4 9xxx) core is slower. Have a look over this build as a starting point using quality parts and giving you room for future upgrades. Link Disc Price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128378 GA-MA790XT-UD4P $139.99 -$15.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103674 PII x4 955 $189.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220410 ram $85.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102854 HD4670 $66.69 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9005&Tpk=650tx 650TX $99.99 -$20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068 Cent 5 Case $49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 WD 640 $74.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827140041 DVD Burner $33.99 $740.63 -$20.00 $720.63 __________________ Power Supply and Selection Last edited by wrench97; 09-10-2009 at 03:09 PM. Reason: Change mistyped 3670 to 4670

09-10-2009, 02:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility I really appreciate the help guys, I just can't do 720 right now. And the other kits i found just aren't that great. What should I expect out of a computer for 500 anyways lol. Any comments on this one? Any bad parts? Will this thing last me awhile playing source games at 1024x768? Can I maybe upgrade it to a slightly better card, or is the PSU in it not enough? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883229117

09-10-2009, 02:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,768 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility A new computer for $500? If it's just the hardware you're looking at medium-low end gaming performance at best. If it's hardware+operating system it'll be bottom-of-the-barrel gaming, or a mid-range office computer. The PC you've linked to looks alright, though I'm not extremely familiar with CyberpowerPC. It's about what you could build on your own for that cost, only with generic components instead of quality. It will give you medium-low settings in most games on an average resolution. Barebones kits aren't worth it a lot of the time. As you've said, most of the "low end" (not ridiculously overpriced) ones have cheap, generic hardware. You could get much better results buying the case, motherboard, CPU, and RAM independently. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

09-10-2009, 02:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Do you have an existing PC to rob the DVD and hard drive from? The x4 CPU can drop to the Phenom x2 550 and shave $87 off the price above. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103680 The DVD and hard drive another $109 to get you into the $500 ball park with a decent system. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-10-2009, 03:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility I have Windows XP 32, and 64 bit OS already with valid keys. So OS is no issue. I also already have a DVD RW drive so that's out of the picture. I'm looking for cheap good quality parts instead of expensive low quality parts. I know $500 still is stretching it for a gaming computer. But like I've said I don't play the new games. I might play the single players, beat them, and quit. My BFG Geforce 6800GT OC played fallout 3 at 800x600 (which i dont mind) low settings getting 50fps. I had fun, and beat the game, and went back to my older games. My 3ghz P4, and my 6800GT and 2GB ram have been working fine for the games I play. So I don't see why I need expensive parts. I would like to be able to use something like and 8800GT or 9800GT just to run my old games a bit better.

09-10-2009, 03:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Oh wrench, just read your message :O I already have a dvd drive and and OS. I have a harddrive, but it's IDE so i should probably get the sata. I will never fill 640GB though. I could settle for 160gb lol.

09-10-2009, 03:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Drop the drive to a 250Gig(cheaper then a 160Gig) for $47.99 I also found a Combo deal on a gigabyte board and the CPU so have a look over this. Link Disc Price MotherBoard CPU Combo deal GIGABYTE GA-MA785G-UD3H & X2 550 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.254089 PII x2 550 $181.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220410 ram $85.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102854 HD4670 $66.69 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9005&Tpk=650tx 650TX $99.99 -$20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068 Cent 5 Case $49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136161 WD250 $47.99 $532.64 -$20.00 $512.64 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-10-2009, 03:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103688 AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128394 GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148395 Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145256 CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042 Antec 300 Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371020 Antec TruePower ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE All for $374...And all free shipping because they are all in combos.... Do any of those suck? I have like $130 left for a graphics card. Wrench, just saw you posted, going to read it now.

09-10-2009, 03:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility I don't really need the phenom, a dual core athlon is fine for what I play. I've got a ton of help from you guys! I really appriciate it. My question now is, are any of the parts i listed above bad quality? any known problems? As long as they don't blow up when I put them together I don't care. Those parts plus a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (kind of over kill for what i play) but I would like to be able to beat the newer games on single-player once. All together was like $500 (including shipping)

09-10-2009, 03:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility The Antec PSU is not what they once were we have all seen issues over the last couple of years with them. The Athlon II 240 is quite a bit slower then the Phenom II x2 for gaming. Micro Atx boards usually don't have the as good a set up for chipset cooling as Atx boards important factor on AMD boards. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-10-2009, 04:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility NOOO DREAMS = CRUSHED I know the athlon ii 240 is slower, but i dont need an uber fast one for source games/ diablo 2 / warcraft 3 (those games from from 2004 and before) and when i play newer games its just for a couple hours a day to beat the game. Will these parts work together though? And without any immediate issues? I can add an extra fan to keep them a bit cooler... My computer (P4 Prescott 3GHz, 2GB ram, geforce 6800GT) runs everything I play totally fine. It was all going good until my 6800GT fan broke. Now it runs hot. So Instead of upgrading that old comp, i wanted to get a newer, but still low-end computer. So as long as these parts are compatible with each other and better than my old system, I'm happy as can be.

09-10-2009, 04:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility Yes they are all compatible, but I would pass on the Antec PSU. What PSU do you currently have? __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-10-2009, 04:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
proagony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 80 OS: Windows XP SP2 x64	Re: My Barbone Kit, Compatibility My current one is an OLD (2005) 520 watt. BUT I just realized I took your advice from earlier and put the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 in my cart, so the $500 (with shipping) included that PSU you linked...So this will all work fine? I know it will fit my needs.