Are these parts compatible?

jimnablazed · 09-04-2009, 08:55 AM

Hi this is my first time building a PC, i want one that'll last me at least 2 - 3 years, i also want to be able to play most games that come out during this time at high to medium settings. The resolution i use for games is 1440x900, i have games like Crysis and Bioshock 2 etc in mind for this set up. here are the parts:

MOBO: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

CPU: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...ache-9x-Retail

RAM: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-(...d-CAS-9-9-9-24

GFX: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...d_i=B00166AYGW

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139865

So, i'd like to know if these parts will work together and how long it'll be good for gaming. Thanks

Phædrus2401 · 09-04-2009, 09:30 AM

DDR3 RAM is a waste of money at the moment, as at the speeds you're looking at it's actually slower than DDR2. I'd also be suspicious of a motherboard that offers support for both DDR2 and DDR3, even if it's from a good brand like Asus. I would go for an Asus P5Q series board or Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3* board and a corresponding set of DDR2 800 or 1066 RAM.

Dual core CPUs are better for gaming at the moment, I would suggest a Core 2 Duo E8400/8500/8600 for the best performance for your money.

I'm not familiar with Inno3D, and that price is *WAY* too high for a 9800GT. You could get a GTX260 or 4870 for that price. I would recommend buying a card from EVGA, BFG Tech, Asus, or Gigabyte.

The power supply you have chosen is garbage, buy from a quality brand like Corsair, SeaSonic, or PC Power and Cooling.

Look here for some of our recommended builds:
Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec

**greenbrucelee** · 09-04-2009, 09:51 AM

I agree with all the above comments.

If you have a look at my system in my profile that rig actually kicks butt over some of the i7s that are out there are the minute and my rig now will be a fraction of the price an i7 system is.

Look at BFG for your graphics card and yes that price is too much for that card, I have even seen a GTX275 for that price but it wasn't a very good brand but still tops the performance over the 9800.

You would also do better with a better PSU you like corsaid TH750 or any seasonic model thats 700w or over.

jimnablazed · 09-05-2009, 08:13 AM

Thanks for the help guys, ill get onto getting a better PSU as soon as possible, I've decided to use this MOBO istead: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

Is this any better? and will it be good for gaming (the whole set up)?

**Tyree** · 09-05-2009, 08:19 AM

That Mobo also uses DDR3 RAM.
As advised by my Team mates, a Dual Core CPU is a better choice for gaming.

Phædrus2401 · 09-05-2009, 11:16 AM

And don't forget our other comments. I did some more looking at that power supply you originally chose. The TOTAL output of its +3.3V, +5V, and +12V rails is 609 watts, which means that even theoretically this power supply could never deliver its promised 650W. In real life I would be amazed if it could deliver 500-550W without dying. And even if it could, at 30A the +12V rail will only deliver up to 360W of power, which is about what I'd like to see on a 400-450W PSU.

I have a new brand to put on my shitlist.

jimnablazed · 09-06-2009, 07:40 AM

Right guys, hers the update. Ive already got the cpu and the gfx card... now i have £200 left for the mobo, ram and psu. ive decided to go with this:

MOBO: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166463

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169647...roduct_reviews

im working on getting a better gfx card as soon as i can. will this serve my needs?

**Tyree** · 09-06-2009, 08:53 AM

The link to the Mobo doesn't work for me.
The RAM is DDR3.
I doubt that PSU is any better than the last one. I suggest you look at this thread.
Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec

Phædrus2401 · 09-06-2009, 09:53 AM

Getting a cheap PSU is a mistake. The power supply is one of the most important components in a computer. Having a good power supply means that you will have a stable, long lived computer with room for upgrades and overclocking if you desire it. Having a cheap power supply means that you have to be careful with changes to your hardware, you have to worry about unstable voltages destroying your RAM and VRAM over time (I've noticed that those with cheap power supplies powering high-end graphics cards tend to need to have their graphics card replaced ever 1-2yrs because the old one becomes faulty--this is because of voltage fluctuation destroying the graphics card VRAM), and finally if a cheap power supply fails it can fry the rest of the system with a burst of "dirty" power.

DON'T skip money on the PSU, suck it up and shell out. The computer will work a lot better, longer, and maybe even faster. I recommend these units:

Corsair TX650W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
Corsair TX750W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006
SeaSonic S12 650W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151028
SeaSonic S12 750W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151084
PC Power and Cooling 750W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703019

jimnablazed · 09-06-2009, 11:10 AM

Thanks for the help guys, ive decided to wait a while until i can get the money for a stable psu.

Tyree, here's the link to the motherboard : http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

**Tyree** · 09-06-2009, 11:34 AM

Asus are great Mobo's but that on uses DDR3 RAM. DDR3 is not a good investment at this time. Go with a 775 build and you can use the savings for a quality CPU and you will have a PC that performs just as well.

jimnablazed · 09-06-2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyree

Asus are great Mobo's but that on uses DDR3 RAM. DDR3 is not a good investment at this time. Go with a 775 build and you can use the savings for a quality CPU and you will have a PC that performs just as well.

Unfortunately i already have the CPU and the GFX card, do you think you could suggest a good mobo and RAM? i have about £230 to spend on them.

Ive been looking for DDR3 ram and motherboards because im sort of trying to make a system that good for the latest games and is still future proof, perhaps 3 - 4 years. Im failing right?

**Tyree** · 09-06-2009, 12:28 PM

ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131377

CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184

Phædrus2401 · 09-06-2009, 12:33 PM

UK links:

mobo: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165395
RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166785

jimnablazed · 09-07-2009, 08:46 AM

OK, thanks alot for the help guys, as it stands this will be my system:

MOBO:http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

CPU:http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...ache-9x-Retail

GFX:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...pf_rd_i=468294

RAM:http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166785

PSU:http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514

apart from getting the gfx card changed as soon as possible, how well will this keep up with gaming in the next few years (i will overclock at some point).

**Tyree** · 09-07-2009, 09:02 AM

No one can say, with any authority, how games will progress in the next few years.
What you have listed is a solid build with good components that should give you trouble free service.
OC'ing voids CPU warranty.

09-04-2009, 08:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
jimnablazed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 7	Are these parts compatible? Hi this is my first time building a PC, i want one that'll last me at least 2 - 3 years, i also want to be able to play most games that come out during this time at high to medium settings. The resolution i use for games is 1440x900, i have games like Crysis and Bioshock 2 etc in mind for this set up. here are the parts: MOBO: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX CPU: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...ache-9x-Retail RAM: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-(...d-CAS-9-9-9-24 GFX: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...d_i=B00166AYGW PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139865 So, i'd like to know if these parts will work together and how long it'll be good for gaming. Thanks

09-04-2009, 09:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,851 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? DDR3 RAM is a waste of money at the moment, as at the speeds you're looking at it's actually slower than DDR2. I'd also be suspicious of a motherboard that offers support for both DDR2 and DDR3, even if it's from a good brand like Asus. I would go for an Asus P5Q series board or Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3* board and a corresponding set of DDR2 800 or 1066 RAM. Dual core CPUs are better for gaming at the moment, I would suggest a Core 2 Duo E8400/8500/8600 for the best performance for your money. I'm not familiar with Inno3D, and that price is WAY too high for a 9800GT. You could get a GTX260 or 4870 for that price. I would recommend buying a card from EVGA, BFG Tech, Asus, or Gigabyte. The power supply you have chosen is garbage, buy from a quality brand like Corsair, SeaSonic, or PC Power and Cooling. Look here for some of our recommended builds: Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

09-04-2009, 09:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,886 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? I agree with all the above comments. If you have a look at my system in my profile that rig actually kicks butt over some of the i7s that are out there are the minute and my rig now will be a fraction of the price an i7 system is. Look at BFG for your graphics card and yes that price is too much for that card, I have even seen a GTX275 for that price but it wasn't a very good brand but still tops the performance over the 9800. You would also do better with a better PSU you like corsaid TH750 or any seasonic model thats 700w or over. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified Last edited by greenbrucelee; 09-04-2009 at 09:52 AM.

09-05-2009, 08:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
jimnablazed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 7	Re: Are these parts compatible? Thanks for the help guys, ill get onto getting a better PSU as soon as possible, I've decided to use this MOBO istead: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX Is this any better? and will it be good for gaming (the whole set up)?

09-05-2009, 08:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,746 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? That Mobo also uses DDR3 RAM. As advised by my Team mates, a Dual Core CPU is a better choice for gaming. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-05-2009, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,851 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? And don't forget our other comments. I did some more looking at that power supply you originally chose. The TOTAL output of its +3.3V, +5V, and +12V rails is 609 watts, which means that even theoretically this power supply could never deliver its promised 650W. In real life I would be amazed if it could deliver 500-550W without dying. And even if it could, at 30A the +12V rail will only deliver up to 360W of power, which is about what I'd like to see on a 400-450W PSU. I have a new brand to put on my shitlist. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

09-06-2009, 07:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
jimnablazed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 7	Re: Are these parts compatible? Right guys, hers the update. Ive already got the cpu and the gfx card... now i have £200 left for the mobo, ram and psu. ive decided to go with this: MOBO: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166463 PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169647...roduct_reviews im working on getting a better gfx card as soon as i can. will this serve my needs?

09-06-2009, 08:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,746 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? The link to the Mobo doesn't work for me. The RAM is DDR3. I doubt that PSU is any better than the last one. I suggest you look at this thread. Want to Build A New Intel or AMD Computer? Here are 6 suggested models with Spec __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-06-2009, 09:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,851 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? Getting a cheap PSU is a mistake. The power supply is one of the most important components in a computer. Having a good power supply means that you will have a stable, long lived computer with room for upgrades and overclocking if you desire it. Having a cheap power supply means that you have to be careful with changes to your hardware, you have to worry about unstable voltages destroying your RAM and VRAM over time (I've noticed that those with cheap power supplies powering high-end graphics cards tend to need to have their graphics card replaced ever 1-2yrs because the old one becomes faulty--this is because of voltage fluctuation destroying the graphics card VRAM), and finally if a cheap power supply fails it can fry the rest of the system with a burst of "dirty" power. DON'T skip money on the PSU, suck it up and shell out. The computer will work a lot better, longer, and maybe even faster. I recommend these units: Corsair TX650W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 Corsair TX750W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 SeaSonic S12 650W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151028 SeaSonic S12 750W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151084 PC Power and Cooling 750W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703019 __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

09-06-2009, 11:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
jimnablazed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 7	Re: Are these parts compatible? Thanks for the help guys, ive decided to wait a while until i can get the money for a stable psu. Tyree, here's the link to the motherboard : http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

09-06-2009, 11:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,746 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? Asus are great Mobo's but that on uses DDR3 RAM. DDR3 is not a good investment at this time. Go with a 775 build and you can use the savings for a quality CPU and you will have a PC that performs just as well. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-06-2009, 12:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,746 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131377 CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184 __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

09-06-2009, 12:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,851 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? UK links: mobo: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165395 RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166785 __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

09-07-2009, 08:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
jimnablazed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows 7	Re: Are these parts compatible? OK, thanks alot for the help guys, as it stands this will be my system: MOBO:http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX CPU:http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...ache-9x-Retail GFX:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...pf_rd_i=468294 RAM:http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166785 PSU:http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514 apart from getting the gfx card changed as soon as possible, how well will this keep up with gaming in the next few years (i will overclock at some point).

09-07-2009, 09:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,746 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Are these parts compatible? No one can say, with any authority, how games will progress in the next few years. What you have listed is a solid build with good components that should give you trouble free service. OC'ing voids CPU warranty. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.