3D Graphics, Part II the full build

tiernoj · 07-13-2009, 01:46 PM

So I posted in an earlier thread (here: 3D graphics computer) asking for parts for a computer used for computer graphics and I used the response as a jumping off point for the rest of my build, now I'd like to know if all these pieces should work together, if everyone thinks its the best bits for the money (I went over budget already with this) or any other tidbits you can deduce.

VIDEO CARD:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133273

PNY Technologies, Inc.

PNY VCQFX580-PCIE-PB Quadro FX580 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card - Retail

- $189.99

-----other possible

PNY Technologies, Inc.

PNY VCQFX370-PCIE-PB Quadro FX370 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Workstation Video Card - Retail

- $109.99

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CPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115041

Intel

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

- $219.00

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MOBO:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131377

ASUS ASUS News Room

ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Xtreme Phase w/ CrossfireX and TurboV for easy OC

- $134

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PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341019

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

- $73

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RAM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail

- $50

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HD:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

- $36

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DVD

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151187

- $25

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= $730

Aside from this I have a case from my old computer and a large ide harddrive but I think thats all thats going to make it from the old box to this one.

I've got another question, about thermal paste, is it definitely needed, and easy to prepare and setup without messing up everything?

This will be my first build so any input or advice would be appreciated

**wrench97** · 07-13-2009, 02:31 PM

The stock heat sink will come with a thermal pad already installed on it, thermal would be need if you intend to overclock or have to remove the heat sink once installed the thermal pad like thermal paste can only be used once.

Neither of the Quadro cards are real power hungry drop your PSU down to 550VX it will be a lot quieter then the OCZ unit> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9004&Tpk=550VX

I'm a little concerned if an 80Gig hard drive will be large enough for you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136074

**Tyree** · 07-14-2009, 08:47 AM

To add to wrench97's suggestions. Drop the RAM to DDR2800.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122

Dacads · 07-18-2009, 12:31 PM

hi, change the graphics card to a HIS Radeon 4890 it's also $190

Or the cheaper alternative would be this XFX geforce 9800gtx, I can't believe it's only 100 dollars for such a great graphics card!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150422

Dacads

ebackhus · 07-18-2009, 02:26 PM

Actually, he's going for a workstation-class graphics. What you suggested can do it but are more optimized for gaming.

tiernoj · 07-20-2009, 10:21 AM

I'll definitely consider the quieter fan though at this point im used to a noisy box in the room, Maybe having the 700w fan would be good for an upgrade though? Hard to say.

and as far as the 80 gig, its just for programs and the os, the bulk of things will go on my old 500 gig ide drive.

What would be the advantage of dropping down the ram if the price is roughly the same?

The issue of the graphics card is a confusing one for sure. The quadros i've read are just for workstation graphics, though I never know how much the specialization balances out with pure specs of the card. Its supposedly almost the same hardware as a cheaper geforce gaming card but the firmware is different, and I've read real wary reviews of just trying to change that much.

Does anyone have a more solid grasp on just how much I would get out of pure specs and just how much is the build of the card so to speak?

**wrench97** · 07-20-2009, 12:59 PM

The workstation cards are designed beefier to stand up to graphics production for over 8 hour days and 24/7 on pc's while the GPU may be the same the card design and components(Caps, resistors IC's) are stronger as well as the firmware, the raw card speed is slower thus the temps tend to be lower, they are not designed to have fast transitions like you would have in a game changing scenes or scanning, but rather more precision in placement of objects in a 3d graphic.

07-13-2009, 01:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
tiernoj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4 OS: vista	3D Graphics, Part II the full build So I posted in an earlier thread (here: 3D graphics computer) asking for parts for a computer used for computer graphics and I used the response as a jumping off point for the rest of my build, now I'd like to know if all these pieces should work together, if everyone thinks its the best bits for the money (I went over budget already with this) or any other tidbits you can deduce. VIDEO CARD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133273 PNY Technologies, Inc. PNY VCQFX580-PCIE-PB Quadro FX580 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card - Retail - $189.99 -----other possible PNY Technologies, Inc. PNY VCQFX370-PCIE-PB Quadro FX370 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Workstation Video Card - Retail - $109.99 -------------------- CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115041 Intel Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail - $219.00 ------------------------------ MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131377 ASUS ASUS News Room ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Xtreme Phase w/ CrossfireX and TurboV for easy OC - $134 ----------------- PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341019 OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail - $73 ------------------ RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail - $50 ----------------- HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106 Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM - $36 ----------- DVD SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151187 - $25 ----------- = $730 Aside from this I have a case from my old computer and a large ide harddrive but I think thats all thats going to make it from the old box to this one. I've got another question, about thermal paste, is it definitely needed, and easy to prepare and setup without messing up everything? This will be my first build so any input or advice would be appreciated Last edited by tiernoj; 07-13-2009 at 01:47 PM.

07-13-2009, 02:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,616 OS: Win7	Re: 3D Graphics, Part II the full build The stock heat sink will come with a thermal pad already installed on it, thermal would be need if you intend to overclock or have to remove the heat sink once installed the thermal pad like thermal paste can only be used once. Neither of the Quadro cards are real power hungry drop your PSU down to 550VX it will be a lot quieter then the OCZ unit> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9004&Tpk=550VX I'm a little concerned if an 80Gig hard drive will be large enough for you. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136074 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-14-2009, 08:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,640 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: 3D Graphics, Part II the full build To add to wrench97's suggestions. Drop the RAM to DDR2800. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122 __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-18-2009, 12:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dacads Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 188 OS: XP SP2 My System	Re: 3D Graphics, Part II the full build hi, change the graphics card to a HIS Radeon 4890 it's also $190 Or the cheaper alternative would be this XFX geforce 9800gtx, I can't believe it's only 100 dollars for such a great graphics card! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150422 Dacads

07-18-2009, 02:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,278 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Re: 3D Graphics, Part II the full build Actually, he's going for a workstation-class graphics. What you suggested can do it but are more optimized for gaming. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

07-20-2009, 10:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
tiernoj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4 OS: vista	Re: 3D Graphics, Part II the full build I'll definitely consider the quieter fan though at this point im used to a noisy box in the room, Maybe having the 700w fan would be good for an upgrade though? Hard to say. and as far as the 80 gig, its just for programs and the os, the bulk of things will go on my old 500 gig ide drive. What would be the advantage of dropping down the ram if the price is roughly the same? The issue of the graphics card is a confusing one for sure. The quadros i've read are just for workstation graphics, though I never know how much the specialization balances out with pure specs of the card. Its supposedly almost the same hardware as a cheaper geforce gaming card but the firmware is different, and I've read real wary reviews of just trying to change that much. Does anyone have a more solid grasp on just how much I would get out of pure specs and just how much is the build of the card so to speak?

07-20-2009, 12:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,616 OS: Win7	Re: 3D Graphics, Part II the full build The workstation cards are designed beefier to stand up to graphics production for over 8 hour days and 24/7 on pc's while the GPU may be the same the card design and components(Caps, resistors IC's) are stronger as well as the firmware, the raw card speed is slower thus the temps tend to be lower, they are not designed to have fast transitions like you would have in a game changing scenes or scanning, but rather more precision in placement of objects in a 3d graphic. __________________ Power Supply and Selection