dell issue...

flluffy · 07-10-2009, 07:14 PM

my friend got a dimension 3000 series and it wont make it past the start up screen. its not memory. i also have a dimension series dell and grafic card fryed out. the battery got really hot and started to smoke and i was thinking that or motherboard can be the issue. i removed the hard drive and tryed to put it on my other computer and it says operating system not found and checked for 2 other hard drives that i have. does anyone know if its the battery or if it motherboard? and why does my other computer say operating system not found?

thanks

**linderman** · 07-10-2009, 07:39 PM

you cant transplant hard drives quite that easy ............you would have to run a win xp repair install at the very least

its the completly different hardware and drivers that stop it from booting .......each time a windows OS boots ........it looks for the hardware signature it expects to find ....when it doesnt find the expected hardware you get a no boot or looping restart

flluffy · 07-10-2009, 07:49 PM

all three hard drives got xp on it and i was talking to some one before and said i need bio test with f8 and that does not work then im going to put it onto my main computer and put all the files onto a hard drive.

**Tyree** · 07-10-2009, 08:18 PM

The hdd's may all have XP on them but were they previously in that PC?
As linderman stated, the Hdd "looks" for a specific hardware signature and if that particular signature isn't found it won't boot.
You can pull he files from the hdd(s) by slaving them into another PC or using a Hdd to USB adapter.
I use the Apricorn model. It is very reliable and comes with a version of Acronis.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...der%20Changers

flluffy · 07-11-2009, 05:54 AM

one of the hd is from the dell 3000 and i also have a 10g and dell 60g on my other computer. i was checking if it was the battery or hd and now all 3 hd wont come up in screen. and wow did not think about that wirel. so how can i fix all 3 hd to work on this computer or back onto my friends dell?

**Tyree** · 07-11-2009, 07:20 AM

Best scenario, do a fresh install of the OS.

flluffy · 07-11-2009, 08:18 AM

1 of the hd is hp and i do have dell reformat cd so should i install the os onto both hd and then try to link the hp hd 2 my computer?

flluffy · 07-11-2009, 09:35 AM

oo wait the other issue now is some one else put a hd in there and will the dell reformat work on this new hd? the hd been in the computer for last year

**simpswr** · 07-11-2009, 11:05 AM

The Dell Reinstallation CD will work on any drive . . but you will loose your data if you reinstall the operating system.

If you are just trying to salvage data, connect the drived to a working pc in polace of the CD/DVD drive . . that way it will not try to boot from it.

flluffy · 07-11-2009, 11:14 AM

im going to buy the wire tyree said and back it up and then i will reinstall the os and back to main issue...is my friends issue the battery? and my uncle said it could have fryed the bus and now the motherboard is no good. can that be right?

**Tyree** · 07-11-2009, 11:41 AM

A smoking battery would indicate a power problem. I would suspect the PSU.

flluffy · 07-11-2009, 12:01 PM

that what i was thinking but it only a year old. i do have a psu should i put that onto the computer and try it? and should i replace the battery?

**Tyree** · 07-11-2009, 12:07 PM

I would suspect the Mobo was smoking and not the battery. Check the area around the battery holder. If it were me, I would remove the Mobo and inspect it for burned spot and burned capacitors.
If everything looked OK, I would do an On the Bench build.
1) Remove EVERYTHING from the case
2) Set the motherboard on a non conductive surface. The motherboard box is perfect for this. DO NOT PLACE THE MOTHERBOARD ON THE STATIC BAG! It can actually conduct electricity! We are going to try and assemble a running system outside of the case.
3) Install the CPU and heat sink.
4) Install 1 stick of RAM.
5) Install the video card
and attach the power supply connection(s) to the card if your card needs it.
6) Connect the monitor to the video card.
7) Connect the power supply to the motherboard with both the 24pin main ATX Power connection and the separate 4 or 8 pin power connection.
8) Connect power to the power supply.
9) Do NOT connect ANYTHING else. Make sure you have the power connector on the CPU fan connected.
10) Use a small screwdriver to momentarily short the power switch connector on the motherboard. Consult your motherboard manual to find which two pins connect to your case's power switch. Then touch both pins with a screwdriver to complete the circuit and boot the system.

flluffy · 07-11-2009, 12:13 PM

around the battery is smoking and next week im going to check it out because shes doing stuff and everyone for there help thanks and i will get back if i still have issues

07-10-2009, 07:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	dell issue... my friend got a dimension 3000 series and it wont make it past the start up screen. its not memory. i also have a dimension series dell and grafic card fryed out. the battery got really hot and started to smoke and i was thinking that or motherboard can be the issue. i removed the hard drive and tryed to put it on my other computer and it says operating system not found and checked for 2 other hard drives that i have. does anyone know if its the battery or if it motherboard? and why does my other computer say operating system not found? thanks

07-10-2009, 07:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: dell issue... you cant transplant hard drives quite that easy ............you would have to run a win xp repair install at the very least its the completly different hardware and drivers that stop it from booting .......each time a windows OS boots ........it looks for the hardware signature it expects to find ....when it doesnt find the expected hardware you get a no boot or looping restart __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

07-10-2009, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... all three hard drives got xp on it and i was talking to some one before and said i need bio test with f8 and that does not work then im going to put it onto my main computer and put all the files onto a hard drive.

07-10-2009, 08:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,645 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: dell issue... The hdd's may all have XP on them but were they previously in that PC? As linderman stated, the Hdd "looks" for a specific hardware signature and if that particular signature isn't found it won't boot. You can pull he files from the hdd(s) by slaving them into another PC or using a Hdd to USB adapter. I use the Apricorn model. It is very reliable and comes with a version of Acronis. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...der%20Changers __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-11-2009, 05:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... one of the hd is from the dell 3000 and i also have a 10g and dell 60g on my other computer. i was checking if it was the battery or hd and now all 3 hd wont come up in screen. and wow did not think about that wirel. so how can i fix all 3 hd to work on this computer or back onto my friends dell?

07-11-2009, 07:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,645 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: dell issue... Best scenario, do a fresh install of the OS. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-11-2009, 08:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... 1 of the hd is hp and i do have dell reformat cd so should i install the os onto both hd and then try to link the hp hd 2 my computer?

07-11-2009, 09:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... oo wait the other issue now is some one else put a hd in there and will the dell reformat work on this new hd? the hd been in the computer for last year

07-11-2009, 11:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,269 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: dell issue... The Dell Reinstallation CD will work on any drive . . but you will loose your data if you reinstall the operating system. If you are just trying to salvage data, connect the drived to a working pc in polace of the CD/DVD drive . . that way it will not try to boot from it. __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

07-11-2009, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... im going to buy the wire tyree said and back it up and then i will reinstall the os and back to main issue...is my friends issue the battery? and my uncle said it could have fryed the bus and now the motherboard is no good. can that be right?

07-11-2009, 11:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,645 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: dell issue... A smoking battery would indicate a power problem. I would suspect the PSU. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-11-2009, 12:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... that what i was thinking but it only a year old. i do have a psu should i put that onto the computer and try it? and should i replace the battery?

07-11-2009, 12:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,645 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: dell issue... I would suspect the Mobo was smoking and not the battery. Check the area around the battery holder. If it were me, I would remove the Mobo and inspect it for burned spot and burned capacitors. If everything looked OK, I would do an On the Bench build. 1) Remove EVERYTHING from the case 2) Set the motherboard on a non conductive surface. The motherboard box is perfect for this. DO NOT PLACE THE MOTHERBOARD ON THE STATIC BAG! It can actually conduct electricity! We are going to try and assemble a running system outside of the case. 3) Install the CPU and heat sink. 4) Install 1 stick of RAM. 5) Install the video card and attach the power supply connection(s) to the card if your card needs it. 6) Connect the monitor to the video card. 7) Connect the power supply to the motherboard with both the 24pin main ATX Power connection and the separate 4 or 8 pin power connection. 8) Connect power to the power supply. 9) Do NOT connect ANYTHING else. Make sure you have the power connector on the CPU fan connected. 10) Use a small screwdriver to momentarily short the power switch connector on the motherboard. Consult your motherboard manual to find which two pins connect to your case's power switch. Then touch both pins with a screwdriver to complete the circuit and boot the system. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-11-2009, 12:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
flluffy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 OS: xp,vista	Re: dell issue... around the battery is smoking and next week im going to check it out because shes doing stuff and everyone for there help thanks and i will get back if i still have issues