How does this look on the gamer scale?

Crypto66 · 07-08-2009, 10:10 PM

Hey all,

My basement flooded a while back and my brand spanking new, out of the box HP dc5750, dual core 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM, 360Gb HD, ati radeon Graphics was destroyed. I was heartbroken. The motherboard was the only thing that had visual damage, so I looked into replacing that.

After getting off the phone with a very good friend of mine about this, he said that it would, in the long run, be easier and cheaper to get a new computer than to try and salvage everything I could from the dead one...

So there I was, looking through the HP store website when I found this,

Linky: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...1-3974860.html

This triple processor, 3GB RAM, powerhouse caught my eye with its outstandingly low price and amazing RAM... Everything was looking great until it came to the Graphics card. Now, I am well aware this is an easy fix, but I was wondering, will this play any of my games? Its a Integrated AMD Radeon 3100 Graphics.

My games consist of everything from Empire earth (the old one...) to C&C3: Kanes wrath. I was also wondering if I had misread the label, the processor name is AMD Phenom X3 8600B processor (2.3 GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0). That "X3" means that it has three processors, or am I just an idiot?

I would furthermore like to know if that proc is fast, if there are indeed, three of them.

Thanks a lot for the future replys :)

Mcninjaguy · 07-08-2009, 10:25 PM

No you're looking to spend around $500 and build it customized as you'll get a lot more bang for you buck.

CPU
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor
$87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103681

Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-MA78GPM-UD2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128385

RAM
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI - Retail
$60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231184

PSU
Corsair 650w
$100
after rebate $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

Graphics Card
HIS H483FN512P Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
$93
after rebate $73
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161260

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

HDD
Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD1601ABYS 160GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
$57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136200

DVD Burner
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner
$26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136167

Total $563
after rebates $523

**Tyree** · 07-09-2009, 07:15 AM

I would also suggest building your own. Pre-builts tend to use low quality parts and are not upgrade friendly. The above build looks good but I would drop the RAM to PC6400 and save a few bucks. The Corsair rebate is pretty much worthless because it is a credit card good for Corsiar purchases only.

Crypto66 · 07-09-2009, 09:26 AM

Well, I am not ultra tech savy. Im 14 and a huge nerd. I really only have about 450$, so the above computer would be a stretch, but it may work out.

One of the only things that would stump me is installing the processors, because I know their is this special type of "gunk" that absorbes heat.

Thanks anyway :)

dai · 07-09-2009, 09:36 AM

age does not come into it,we are always here to help

**koala** · 07-09-2009, 10:33 AM

The gunk is called thermal paste. The heatsink will already have a thermal pad on it (similar to paste), so you don't need to worry about messing about with any gunk unless you have heat problems or plan on overclocking the CPU.

**Tyree** · 07-09-2009, 11:27 AM

As dai said, age is not a concern. My 15 yr. old Granddaughter helps me with some assemblies and she's getting "almost" as good as me.

Mcninjaguy · 07-09-2009, 03:08 PM

Ok this RAM, CPU, PSU and and graphics card will do.

RAM
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail
$47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184

Graphics Card
HIS H465FS512P Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161262

CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor
$62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300
Can be overclocked a bit

PSU
Corsair 550w
$87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004

Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-MA78GPM-UD2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128385

Case
Antec 300
$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

HDD
Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD1601ABYS 160GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
$57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136200

DVD Drive
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner
$25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136167

Total: $ $473

Am I good, or am I good!

07-08-2009, 10:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Crypto66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 2 OS: XP	How does this look on the gamer scale? Hey all, My basement flooded a while back and my brand spanking new, out of the box HP dc5750, dual core 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM, 360Gb HD, ati radeon Graphics was destroyed. I was heartbroken. The motherboard was the only thing that had visual damage, so I looked into replacing that. After getting off the phone with a very good friend of mine about this, he said that it would, in the long run, be easier and cheaper to get a new computer than to try and salvage everything I could from the dead one... So there I was, looking through the HP store website when I found this, Linky: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...1-3974860.html This triple processor, 3GB RAM, powerhouse caught my eye with its outstandingly low price and amazing RAM... Everything was looking great until it came to the Graphics card. Now, I am well aware this is an easy fix, but I was wondering, will this play any of my games? Its a Integrated AMD Radeon 3100 Graphics. My games consist of everything from Empire earth (the old one...) to C&C3: Kanes wrath. I was also wondering if I had misread the label, the processor name is AMD Phenom X3 8600B processor (2.3 GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0). That "X3" means that it has three processors, or am I just an idiot? I would furthermore like to know if that proc is fast, if there are indeed, three of them. Thanks a lot for the future replys :)

07-08-2009, 10:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? No you're looking to spend around $500 and build it customized as you'll get a lot more bang for you buck. CPU AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor $87 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103681 Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-MA78GPM-UD2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128385 RAM G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI - Retail $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231184 PSU Corsair 650w $100 after rebate $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 Graphics Card HIS H483FN512P Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card $93 after rebate $73 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161260 Case Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042 HDD Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD1601ABYS 160GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $57 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136200 DVD Burner LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner $26 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136167 Total $563 after rebates $523

07-09-2009, 07:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,711 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? I would also suggest building your own. Pre-builts tend to use low quality parts and are not upgrade friendly. The above build looks good but I would drop the RAM to PC6400 and save a few bucks. The Corsair rebate is pretty much worthless because it is a credit card good for Corsiar purchases only. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-09-2009, 09:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Crypto66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 2 OS: XP	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? Well, I am not ultra tech savy. Im 14 and a huge nerd. I really only have about 450$, so the above computer would be a stretch, but it may work out. One of the only things that would stump me is installing the processors, because I know their is this special type of "gunk" that absorbes heat. Thanks anyway :)

07-09-2009, 09:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? age does not come into it,we are always here to help __________________

07-09-2009, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,393 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? The gunk is called thermal paste. The heatsink will already have a thermal pad on it (similar to paste), so you don't need to worry about messing about with any gunk unless you have heat problems or plan on overclocking the CPU. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

07-09-2009, 11:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,711 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? As dai said, age is not a concern. My 15 yr. old Granddaughter helps me with some assemblies and she's getting "almost" as good as me. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

07-09-2009, 03:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: How does this look on the gamer scale? Ok this RAM, CPU, PSU and and graphics card will do. RAM CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail $47 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184 Graphics Card HIS H465FS512P Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161262 CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor $62 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300 Can be overclocked a bit PSU Corsair 550w $87 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004 Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-MA78GPM-UD2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128385 Case Antec 300 $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042 HDD Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD1601ABYS 160GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $57 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136200 DVD Drive LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136167 Total: $ $473 Am I good, or am I good! Last edited by Mcninjaguy; 07-09-2009 at 03:12 PM.