Double check my 1st build.

**Vick** · 06-19-2009, 04:08 AM

Hi Guys,

I am looking into building my own system. I just want to make sure all my parts in this system would function properly and able to communicate (send/receive data) with other parts within the system.

Here is my build:

AMD Phenom 9750 Quad Core AM2+ 2400MHZ 4MB Cache
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+,AMD780G,mATX,GBE Lan,1394,HDMI
Kingston DDR2 1G PC6400 800 DDR2 RAM(Single Stick
Kingston DDR2 1G PC6400 800 DDR2 RAM(Single Stick
Samsung 500G SATA II 7200rpm
Asus GF9500 512M Magic PCIE2.0 DVI-I HDCP HDMI
LG W2242T-BF 22 inch LCD 5ms 8000 : 1 D-Sub DVI-D
LG H22NS30 SATA 22X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software
Thermaltake M9 Midi Tower Black(with 430W PSU)
Microsoft Basic Black Value Pack with Optical Mouse.

All this parts are from here.

I intend to use XP home edition as its OS.

Am I able to use Vista 32bit/64bit in future without any upgrade on its hardware?

Is it possible to upgrade to 4G of RAM? Heard 32bit system could only able to pick a total(video card memory+system memory) of 3.5G of memory RAM

Video card(Asus GF9500 512M Magic PCIE2.0 DVI-I HDCP HDMI) is out of stock currently. Am I able to use Gigabyte GeForce 9500GT 1G OverClock 650MHz as its substitute? I just not sure about the description of 1G Overclock 650Mhz? Could you please suggest a video card?I dont need excellent video card, something reasonable would be fine as I am just into warcraft and Need for Speed-Carbon

I prefer to have wireless card but just not sure how to select them. I have a wireless ADSL connection available. Please help me select a wireless card for my desktop.
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Thanks in advance for your kind help and I appreciate any sort of guide/recommendation or advise on the build.

Vick

Phædrus2401 · 06-19-2009, 08:11 AM

Are you an Aussie? Nice to seeya on here.

Instead of getting two separate RAM sticks I'd get a 2GB DIMM--that's two sticks of 1GB RAM that will work with each other. http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=6&sid=36924

Are you sure you want a quad core processor? They're pretty expensive and very few games or anything else use them. I'm not very familiar with AMD's high-end dual core CPUs so I can't recommend one, but you might want to look into that instead.

What's that "Windows Basic Black" thing? Is that your OS? I don't know what that's all about.

The Gigabyte video card will work fine, and is in fact better since by overclocking you make the part run faster, thus making it able to render graphics more quickly.

Finally, I'd avoid a case that comes with a power supply. The PSUs that come with cases are usually pretty shoddy. Try these instead:
Case: http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=30183
Power supply: http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=23551

And that should do it. Good luck on the build and come back if you have any more questions.

**Tyree** · 06-19-2009, 08:15 AM

Go with a Matched pair of 2X2GB PC6400 RAM. The 32Bit OS will only "se" up to 3.25GB but RAM is cheap now and you will have it if/when you go to a 64Bit OS. Corasir XMX & G.Skill are good brands.

**Vick** · 06-20-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Are you an Aussie? Nice to seeya on here.

Not really. Im Aussie resident not citizen. Neway, nice to see you too.
Btw, Windows Basic Black is just a basic keyboard

Thanks everyone for your input.

Well, thinking of getting 2x2G RAM as suggested. I thinking of using vista 64bit instead of XP. Do I need to change any parts of the system if I intend to run a vista 64bit?

With the case, its just that I like the design...cheap and looking great. Does that gonna lead me in trouble?

Appreciate more comments on the processor and video card?

Just a bit suprise, no one mentioned anything about the wireless card

**wrench97** · 06-20-2009, 03:09 AM

You want to use 2 sticks of ram to take advantage of the fast dual channel memory mode.

You also want to pick the case and power supply separately the PSU's that come with cases are often out dated or poor quality units, for a PCIe card you need to be up here> http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6

For a wireless card something like this will work fine> http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6

What is the main purpose for the PC if it's gaming for example you would be better served using an Intel dual core or a Phenom II CPU.

**Vick** · 06-21-2009, 02:53 AM

Hi all,

Okay,here I am with my new build using Intel Dual Core. Not sure if the RAM is compatible with the Motherboard as G43 chipset not listed in the RAM specification as stated here.
Is it ok to use Vista home 64bit?Is the parts capable in running 64bit?
Btw its for 20% gaming and 80%multitasking. I trying to reduce the cost as much as I could, so not after high quality video card or parts.
Please help, need to finalise and place my order soon.

Intel ATX E8400 CORE 2 DUO /3.0GHz/6MB/1333FSB/LGA775
Asus P5QL-CM G43 Intel Mainboard
G.Skill DDR2 4G(2x2G)PC6400 800Mhz(F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT)
Western Digital 500G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD(16Mb Cache)
Gigabyte GF9400GT 512M OC DDR2 PCIE2.0 HDMI
LG W2242T-BF 22 inch LCD 5ms 8000 : 1 D-Sub DVI-D
LG H22NS30 SATA 22X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software
Antec Three Hundred Tower Gaming Case- Black NO PSU
Antec ATX EarthWatts 500W

P/S: Wrench97, you posted the wrong link. Still looking to get a wireless card.

**wrench97** · 06-21-2009, 03:14 AM

Seems I can't link individual products?
Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Network Adapter 802.11G (54Mbps)
Internet Price: $43
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...bid=6&sid=5152

That's a better build then the first one the ram will work fine, but why the integrated video board if your going to run a vid card?
Asus P5QL-SE Intel P43/LGA775/DDR2/ATX
Internet Price: $119.00
Retail Price: $129.00
Stock level: >10 (Plenty of Stock)
Model #: P5QL-SE
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=38133

OR
Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L M/B, P43+ICH10, FSB 1600
Internet Price: $139.00
Retail Price: $149.00
Stock level: <5 (in Stock)
Model #: GA-EP43-UD3L
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=37366

If your looking to game or OC then this is the board to get
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L P45+ICH10 FSB1600 DDR2 1366+ SATA2 GbN ATX
Internet Price: $149.00
Retail Price: $159.00
Stock level: >10 (Plenty of Stock)
Model #: GA-EP45-UD3L
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=35405

This is a much better Power Supply
SeaSonic PSR550+ 550W S12+ Power Supply
Internet Price: $125.00
Retail Price: $135.00
Stock level: <5 (in Stock)
Model #: PSR550+
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=20305

**Vick** · 06-22-2009, 03:23 AM

Thanks for your input.

Decided to go with as recommended:
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L P45+ICH10 FSB1600 DDR2 1366+ SATA2 GbN ATX
Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Network Adapter 802.11G (54Mbps)
SeaSonic PSR550+ 550W S12+ Power Supply.

Just one last question, am i able to run vista 64bits on this system?

**Tyree** · 06-22-2009, 11:07 AM

Yes you can run a 64Bit OS.
For a few dollars more you can get a WD Black series 32MB....they have a 5 yr. warranty and are faster.
If you want to go with an Asus Mobo, get the P5Q Pro

Phædrus2401 · 06-22-2009, 08:04 PM

^ yup, it's a very nice board. Only thing that peeves me a little is that the second PCIe x16 slot only runs at x8 bandwidth (ok if you're running anything less than a 4890 or GTX260, but bad for high-end cards like the 4870x2 or GTX285) and putting a double-width GPU in that slot would leave me with just one PCI slot, but otherwise it's a great piece of hardware. First was "DOA", but that was actually my fault. I strongly recommend it.

**Tyree** · 06-23-2009, 07:38 AM

The second slot is the also a peave for me on the P5Q. Asus could have left it off and lowered the price. One quality graphics card is all that is needed.
I've used about 40 of them over the last year and a half and I've had 3 bad ones.

**Vick** · 06-24-2009, 01:50 AM

I cant find this in the website...am i missing something? WD Black series 32MB

I think i will stick with the Gigabyte mobo.

**wrench97** · 06-24-2009, 12:12 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319

**Vick** · 06-26-2009, 04:39 AM

Hi,

I just place the order today but i think i screwed it up. Can NETGEAR WPN311 RangeMax Wireless PCI Adapter fits in GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard?

**wrench97** · 06-26-2009, 12:44 PM

Yes it will go in a PCI slot.

**Vick** · 06-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Thanks Wrench97...u made me feel better now. The adapter on the wireless card and the "white slot" on mobo looks as if they wont fit...and that made me worried...

Thanks again. Hope my desktop will come in a good shape...

06-19-2009, 04:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vick Senior Trainee Analyst Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moura, Australia Posts: 440 OS: XP SP3	Double check my 1st build. Hi Guys, I am looking into building my own system. I just want to make sure all my parts in this system would function properly and able to communicate (send/receive data) with other parts within the system. Here is my build: AMD Phenom 9750 Quad Core AM2+ 2400MHZ 4MB Cache Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+,AMD780G,mATX,GBE Lan,1394,HDMI Kingston DDR2 1G PC6400 800 DDR2 RAM(Single Stick Kingston DDR2 1G PC6400 800 DDR2 RAM(Single Stick Samsung 500G SATA II 7200rpm Asus GF9500 512M Magic PCIE2.0 DVI-I HDCP HDMI LG W2242T-BF 22 inch LCD 5ms 8000 : 1 D-Sub DVI-D LG H22NS30 SATA 22X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software Thermaltake M9 Midi Tower Black(with 430W PSU) Microsoft Basic Black Value Pack with Optical Mouse. All this parts are from here. I intend to use XP home edition as its OS. Am I able to use Vista 32bit/64bit in future without any upgrade on its hardware? Is it possible to upgrade to 4G of RAM? Heard 32bit system could only able to pick a total(video card memory+system memory) of 3.5G of memory RAM Video card(Asus GF9500 512M Magic PCIE2.0 DVI-I HDCP HDMI) is out of stock currently. Am I able to use Gigabyte GeForce 9500GT 1G OverClock 650MHz as its substitute? I just not sure about the description of 1G Overclock 650Mhz? Could you please suggest a video card?I dont need excellent video card, something reasonable would be fine as I am just into warcraft and Need for Speed-Carbon I prefer to have wireless card but just not sure how to select them. I have a wireless ADSL connection available. Please help me select a wireless card for my desktop. ------------- Thanks in advance for your kind help and I appreciate any sort of guide/recommendation or advise on the build. Vick

06-19-2009, 08:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,772 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Double check my 1st build. Are you an Aussie? Nice to seeya on here. Instead of getting two separate RAM sticks I'd get a 2GB DIMM--that's two sticks of 1GB RAM that will work with each other. http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=6&sid=36924 Are you sure you want a quad core processor? They're pretty expensive and very few games or anything else use them. I'm not very familiar with AMD's high-end dual core CPUs so I can't recommend one, but you might want to look into that instead. What's that "Windows Basic Black" thing? Is that your OS? I don't know what that's all about. The Gigabyte video card will work fine, and is in fact better since by overclocking you make the part run faster, thus making it able to render graphics more quickly. Finally, I'd avoid a case that comes with a power supply. The PSUs that come with cases are usually pretty shoddy. Try these instead: Case: http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=30183 Power supply: http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=23551 And that should do it. Good luck on the build and come back if you have any more questions.

06-19-2009, 08:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,525 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Double check my 1st build. Go with a Matched pair of 2X2GB PC6400 RAM. The 32Bit OS will only "se" up to 3.25GB but RAM is cheap now and you will have it if/when you go to a 64Bit OS. Corasir XMX & G.Skill are good brands. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

06-20-2009, 03:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: Double check my 1st build. You want to use 2 sticks of ram to take advantage of the fast dual channel memory mode. You also want to pick the case and power supply separately the PSU's that come with cases are often out dated or poor quality units, for a PCIe card you need to be up here> http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 For a wireless card something like this will work fine> http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 What is the main purpose for the PC if it's gaming for example you would be better served using an Intel dual core or a Phenom II CPU. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

06-21-2009, 02:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Vick Senior Trainee Analyst Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moura, Australia Posts: 440 OS: XP SP3	Re: Double check my 1st build. Hi all, Okay,here I am with my new build using Intel Dual Core. Not sure if the RAM is compatible with the Motherboard as G43 chipset not listed in the RAM specification as stated here. Is it ok to use Vista home 64bit?Is the parts capable in running 64bit? Btw its for 20% gaming and 80%multitasking. I trying to reduce the cost as much as I could, so not after high quality video card or parts. Please help, need to finalise and place my order soon. Intel ATX E8400 CORE 2 DUO /3.0GHz/6MB/1333FSB/LGA775 Asus P5QL-CM G43 Intel Mainboard G.Skill DDR2 4G(2x2G)PC6400 800Mhz(F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT) Western Digital 500G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD(16Mb Cache) Gigabyte GF9400GT 512M OC DDR2 PCIE2.0 HDMI LG W2242T-BF 22 inch LCD 5ms 8000 : 1 D-Sub DVI-D LG H22NS30 SATA 22X+- Super Multi DVD Rewriter Black with Software Antec Three Hundred Tower Gaming Case- Black NO PSU Antec ATX EarthWatts 500W P/S: Wrench97, you posted the wrong link. Still looking to get a wireless card.

06-21-2009, 03:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: Double check my 1st build. Seems I can't link individual products? Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Network Adapter 802.11G (54Mbps) Internet Price: $43 http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...bid=6&sid=5152 That's a better build then the first one the ram will work fine, but why the integrated video board if your going to run a vid card? Asus P5QL-SE Intel P43/LGA775/DDR2/ATX Internet Price: $119.00 Retail Price: $129.00 Stock level: >10 (Plenty of Stock) Model #: P5QL-SE http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=38133 OR Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L M/B, P43+ICH10, FSB 1600 Internet Price: $139.00 Retail Price: $149.00 Stock level: <5 (in Stock) Model #: GA-EP43-UD3L http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=37366 If your looking to game or OC then this is the board to get Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L P45+ICH10 FSB1600 DDR2 1366+ SATA2 GbN ATX Internet Price: $149.00 Retail Price: $159.00 Stock level: >10 (Plenty of Stock) Model #: GA-EP45-UD3L http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=35405 This is a much better Power Supply SeaSonic PSR550+ 550W S12+ Power Supply Internet Price: $125.00 Retail Price: $135.00 Stock level: <5 (in Stock) Model #: PSR550+ http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products...id=2&sid=20305 __________________ Power Supply and Selection Last edited by wrench97; 06-21-2009 at 03:25 AM.

06-22-2009, 03:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Vick Senior Trainee Analyst Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moura, Australia Posts: 440 OS: XP SP3	Re: Double check my 1st build. Thanks for your input. Decided to go with as recommended: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L P45+ICH10 FSB1600 DDR2 1366+ SATA2 GbN ATX Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Network Adapter 802.11G (54Mbps) SeaSonic PSR550+ 550W S12+ Power Supply. Just one last question, am i able to run vista 64bits on this system?

06-22-2009, 11:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,525 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Double check my 1st build. Yes you can run a 64Bit OS. For a few dollars more you can get a WD Black series 32MB....they have a 5 yr. warranty and are faster. If you want to go with an Asus Mobo, get the P5Q Pro __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

06-22-2009, 08:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Phædrus2401 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,772 OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 + Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: Double check my 1st build. ^ yup, it's a very nice board. Only thing that peeves me a little is that the second PCIe x16 slot only runs at x8 bandwidth (ok if you're running anything less than a 4890 or GTX260, but bad for high-end cards like the 4870x2 or GTX285) and putting a double-width GPU in that slot would leave me with just one PCI slot, but otherwise it's a great piece of hardware. First was "DOA", but that was actually my fault. I strongly recommend it. __________________ Good PSU brands: Corsair, SeaSonic, CWT, PC Power and Cooling, Thermaltake Toughpower, CoolerMaster Real Power Pro On 80+ Certification - PSU Information and Selection - Power Supply Myths You don't get what you don't pay for.

06-23-2009, 07:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,525 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Double check my 1st build. The second slot is the also a peave for me on the P5Q. Asus could have left it off and lowered the price. One quality graphics card is all that is needed. I've used about 40 of them over the last year and a half and I've had 3 bad ones. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

06-24-2009, 01:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
Vick Senior Trainee Analyst Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moura, Australia Posts: 440 OS: XP SP3	Re: Double check my 1st build. I cant find this in the website...am i missing something? WD Black series 32MB I think i will stick with the Gigabyte mobo.

06-24-2009, 12:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: Double check my 1st build. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

06-26-2009, 04:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
Vick Senior Trainee Analyst Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moura, Australia Posts: 440 OS: XP SP3	Re: Double check my 1st build. Hi, I just place the order today but i think i screwed it up. Can NETGEAR WPN311 RangeMax Wireless PCI Adapter fits in GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard?

06-26-2009, 12:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: Double check my 1st build. Yes it will go in a PCI slot. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

06-26-2009, 03:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
Vick Senior Trainee Analyst Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moura, Australia Posts: 440 OS: XP SP3	Re: Double check my 1st build. Thanks Wrench97...u made me feel better now. The adapter on the wireless card and the "white slot" on mobo looks as if they wont fit...and that made me worried... Thanks again. Hope my desktop will come in a good shape...