hardware components for a gaming pc - Page 4

**okeee** · 07-01-2009, 08:25 AM

Ok I saw several white 4pin molex connectors to black 4pin molex connectors. And sata harddisk should be connected with the sata cable? because it was connected with a 4pin molex connector.

Yes I was interested in Antec300 but then I read that it had NO pc speaker, and that it was loud. I still need the pc speaker for dos games and for booting.

I'm looking for a silent pc case, which ones could you recommend? I'm not looking for expensive cases, just a decent silent case.

-silent, used for heavy gaming
-large enough to fit in videocards such as engtx260
-NO flashy lights, windows or other extras
-no PSU
-at least 1x 120 mm fan at rear panel, and optional fan at front panel
-pc-speaker included

**wrench97** · 07-01-2009, 02:01 PM

The case speaker should not be a big issue> http://www.bestbyteinc.com/CAS-CHW-SP1.html

If you use a fan controller to control fan speed when not gaming it will quiet down.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998065

The noise comes from the fans the quieter the case the less air flow for the most part.
This is one of the quietest case but as you'll see from the reviews there are complaints about low fan speeds and temps > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119192

**okeee** · 07-01-2009, 05:07 PM

I have used another case, antec and it often had a loud, zooming sound. I coudnt tell what it was from, but it did not come from any of the fans. That's why i'm cautious about antec.

The pc speaker, what is it used for except post beeps and old games?

**wrench97** · 07-01-2009, 05:21 PM

Post beeps and old games, but the games should play on the normal speakers, other then some early Dos games.

**okeee** · 07-02-2009, 02:50 AM

Some motherboards have a build in speaker, this is for both post beep and old games? Does asus p5q-e have this speaker?

**wrench97** · 07-02-2009, 11:48 AM

No it as most newer boards use the case speaker that plugs into the front panel connector.

**okeee** · 07-02-2009, 01:57 PM

I've checked some cases, how about this case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112154
It has 3 fans it seems, good enough for gaming?
I'm not sure if additional fans can be installed.
videocard: engtx 260

**wrench97** · 07-02-2009, 02:37 PM

Lian Li makes a great case usually they are quite a bit more expensive, the card will fit in there with the sideways hard drive bays.

**okeee** · 07-02-2009, 02:51 PM

Antec300 has PSU on the bottom, which means the cables have to go over the videocard, some cables may not reach the motherboard and also the case cables seem to be somewhat short, that's what I'm worried about.

I'm not sure if additional fans can be installed. If I want to put an extra fan in, does it mean i have to make holes in the panel? Or what is the best way to put in some additional fans and what position (top, sidepanel, rear)?

Is there any way to find out (before ordering the items) if all cables from case to motherboard, and PSU and such, are long enough? I've read that some cases had really short audio cables for example.

**wrench97** · 07-02-2009, 03:22 PM

The cables on the corsair PSU will go around the video card there is a chase behind the hard drive bay to run the cables through and stash excess wiring see the image below.
As for the cooling 1 front fan, 1 top fan, the video card and PSU all blowing out is all you'll need it will draw all that air in from the front across the hard drives and motherboard.

**okeee** · 07-03-2009, 05:45 AM

2x 120mm front fans and 1x 120mm rear fans, all 1000rpm, is this enough for a gaming pc?

**wrench97** · 07-03-2009, 12:55 PM

Yes because the power supply will also exhaust air out the rear.

**okeee** · 07-03-2009, 03:19 PM

-I checked the sata hard disk, and it was connected with a 4pin molex connector to the PSU. Shouldnt it be connected with the sata cable instead?

-Is it possible to check if the CPU fan works before turning the pc on? Because CPU needs to be cooled immediately.

**wrench97** · 07-03-2009, 04:27 PM

No that drive does use the 4 pin molex, not all Sata drives use the Sata power connector.
Just hook the fan up to the MB the heat sink will absorb the heat from the CPU, it's only after the heat sink gets hot that you need the fan to cool it.

**okeee** · 07-04-2009, 04:52 AM

What is the fastest yet safest way to shut down a computer, if you need to do it immediately, would that be to press the power switch for a few seconds or shut down the PSU switch immediately?

**wrench97** · 07-04-2009, 10:02 AM

Press the power button unless it's dire like smoke or sparks then pull the plug.

**okeee** · 07-06-2009, 04:01 PM

Ok after lot of checking, I selected these parts for a gaming pc:

- Motherboard: Asus P5Q-E
- Processor: Intel E8400 boxed
- RAM: Corsair XMS2 - memory- 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) - DIMM 240-pins - DDR2 - 1066 MHz / PC2-8500 - CL5 - 2.1 V
- Power Supply: Corsair 650TX
- Videocard: EVGA 896-P3-1260-AR GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3
- Case: LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B Black Aluminum

other parts:
- 1x WD sata II hard disk
- 2x ide hard disk
- 1x ide dvd recorder
- 1x floppy drive
- win xp

The important thing is that I want to use all hardware as long as possible, so that's why I chose this case, with 3x 120 mm fans and this hardware, and I wont overclock any hardware. Also it's important that the hardware is as quiet as possible. If you see anything that wouldn't fit, incompatible or needs more cooling or something , please let me know.

**wrench97** · 07-06-2009, 04:19 PM

The IDE controller on all newer boards will only handle 2 drives, I would pickup a Sata Dvd burner, it will be faster then the IDE DVD drive.

Other then that all looks good.

**okeee** · 07-07-2009, 08:37 PM

About the IDE devices, I know about, I'll check which ones I'll install. But if I really need all 3 of them, are there any extension cables or additional devices I can use to connect all 3 IDE devices?

**wrench97** · 07-08-2009, 01:26 AM

Yes but you would be far better off replacing the IDE DVD drive with a Sata> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815104214

07-01-2009, 08:25 AM	#61 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Ok I saw several white 4pin molex connectors to black 4pin molex connectors. And sata harddisk should be connected with the sata cable? because it was connected with a 4pin molex connector. Yes I was interested in Antec300 but then I read that it had NO pc speaker, and that it was loud. I still need the pc speaker for dos games and for booting. I'm looking for a silent pc case, which ones could you recommend? I'm not looking for expensive cases, just a decent silent case. -silent, used for heavy gaming -large enough to fit in videocards such as engtx260 -NO flashy lights, windows or other extras -no PSU -at least 1x 120 mm fan at rear panel, and optional fan at front panel -pc-speaker included

07-01-2009, 02:01 PM	#62 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc The case speaker should not be a big issue> http://www.bestbyteinc.com/CAS-CHW-SP1.html If you use a fan controller to control fan speed when not gaming it will quiet down. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998065 The noise comes from the fans the quieter the case the less air flow for the most part. This is one of the quietest case but as you'll see from the reviews there are complaints about low fan speeds and temps > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119192 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-01-2009, 05:07 PM	#63 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc I have used another case, antec and it often had a loud, zooming sound. I coudnt tell what it was from, but it did not come from any of the fans. That's why i'm cautious about antec. The pc speaker, what is it used for except post beeps and old games?

07-01-2009, 05:21 PM	#64 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Post beeps and old games, but the games should play on the normal speakers, other then some early Dos games. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-02-2009, 02:50 AM	#65 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Some motherboards have a build in speaker, this is for both post beep and old games? Does asus p5q-e have this speaker?

07-02-2009, 11:48 AM	#66 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc No it as most newer boards use the case speaker that plugs into the front panel connector. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-02-2009, 01:57 PM	#67 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc I've checked some cases, how about this case? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112154 It has 3 fans it seems, good enough for gaming? I'm not sure if additional fans can be installed. videocard: engtx 260

07-02-2009, 02:37 PM	#68 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Lian Li makes a great case usually they are quite a bit more expensive, the card will fit in there with the sideways hard drive bays. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-02-2009, 02:51 PM	#69 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Antec300 has PSU on the bottom, which means the cables have to go over the videocard, some cables may not reach the motherboard and also the case cables seem to be somewhat short, that's what I'm worried about. I'm not sure if additional fans can be installed. If I want to put an extra fan in, does it mean i have to make holes in the panel? Or what is the best way to put in some additional fans and what position (top, sidepanel, rear)? Is there any way to find out (before ordering the items) if all cables from case to motherboard, and PSU and such, are long enough? I've read that some cases had really short audio cables for example. Last edited by okeee; 07-02-2009 at 03:04 PM.

07-03-2009, 05:45 AM	#71 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc 2x 120mm front fans and 1x 120mm rear fans, all 1000rpm, is this enough for a gaming pc?

07-03-2009, 12:55 PM	#72 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Yes because the power supply will also exhaust air out the rear. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-03-2009, 03:19 PM	#73 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc -I checked the sata hard disk, and it was connected with a 4pin molex connector to the PSU. Shouldnt it be connected with the sata cable instead? -Is it possible to check if the CPU fan works before turning the pc on? Because CPU needs to be cooled immediately.

07-03-2009, 04:27 PM	#74 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc No that drive does use the 4 pin molex, not all Sata drives use the Sata power connector. Just hook the fan up to the MB the heat sink will absorb the heat from the CPU, it's only after the heat sink gets hot that you need the fan to cool it. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-04-2009, 04:52 AM	#75 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc What is the fastest yet safest way to shut down a computer, if you need to do it immediately, would that be to press the power switch for a few seconds or shut down the PSU switch immediately?

07-04-2009, 10:02 AM	#76 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Press the power button unless it's dire like smoke or sparks then pull the plug. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-06-2009, 04:01 PM	#77 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Ok after lot of checking, I selected these parts for a gaming pc: - Motherboard: Asus P5Q-E - Processor: Intel E8400 boxed - RAM: Corsair XMS2 - memory- 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) - DIMM 240-pins - DDR2 - 1066 MHz / PC2-8500 - CL5 - 2.1 V - Power Supply: Corsair 650TX - Videocard: EVGA 896-P3-1260-AR GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 - Case: LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B Black Aluminum other parts: - 1x WD sata II hard disk - 2x ide hard disk - 1x ide dvd recorder - 1x floppy drive - win xp The important thing is that I want to use all hardware as long as possible, so that's why I chose this case, with 3x 120 mm fans and this hardware, and I wont overclock any hardware. Also it's important that the hardware is as quiet as possible. If you see anything that wouldn't fit, incompatible or needs more cooling or something , please let me know.

07-06-2009, 04:19 PM	#78 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc The IDE controller on all newer boards will only handle 2 drives, I would pickup a Sata Dvd burner, it will be faster then the IDE DVD drive. Other then that all looks good. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

07-07-2009, 08:37 PM	#79 (permalink)
okeee TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547 OS: win me	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc About the IDE devices, I know about, I'll check which ones I'll install. But if I really need all 3 of them, are there any extension cables or additional devices I can use to connect all 3 IDE devices? Last edited by okeee; 07-07-2009 at 08:43 PM.

07-08-2009, 01:26 AM	#80 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,411 OS: Win7	Re: hardware components for a gaming pc Yes but you would be far better off replacing the IDE DVD drive with a Sata> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815104214 __________________ Power Supply and Selection