Will this build work out?

Steve412 · 05-17-2009, 05:58 PM

This will be for gaming(not hardcore), i prefer mmorpgs but might get into fps if this build can keep up with the action. I think i have all compatible parts. However i'm a newblet and i need some people to double check it and make sure it will all work.

CASE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811103011 - $100
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MotherBoard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128384 - $130
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CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103291 - $150 (free shipping)
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GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130339 - $130
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PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182185 - $60 (free shipping)
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HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148262 - $55 (free shipping)
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DVD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151173 - $27
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MEMORY:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 - $59 (free shipping)
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OS:
I'm not sure which OS would be better for gaming, but this is the one i picked.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116378 - $140 (ouch)
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Sound:
Might not need this if the MoBo integrated sound is good enough.
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If you post any suggestions please keep it under $1000 and AMD (for some reason i hate Intel)

Tumbleweed36 · 05-17-2009, 06:12 PM

First of all, the Rosewill power supplies are a bunch of junk. You need to take a look at the Corsair 650:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

**Tyree** · 05-17-2009, 08:20 PM

Agreed on the Rosewill PSU. They are NOT good.
Seagate HDD's have had some issues so I suggest going with WD.
Save some money on the RAM and get PC 6400.
XP 64Bit is not the ideal OS. Drivers are very scarce for it.
Go with XP 32Bit (Pro has no advantages over Home) or Windows 7.

**Net Jockey** · 05-17-2009, 08:52 PM

What one needs to know about...the relation of the negative effects of heat on the computer...That can be caused by the power supply.

Manufacturers test their PSU's at a set temperature...from this their rating is determined... for most this No. is 25 degrees Celsius...which falls short of the temperature that most computers are capable of achieving.

Given that a PSU will actually lose 2-5 watts per one degree of heat above the 25 Degree Celsius testing temperature...coupled with the fact that computers tend to run at 10 degrees higher than room temperature... In the summer time when the room temperature can easily reach 80 degrees F... your computer will be running at 33 Degrees C. or 90 Degrees F.

So the...math can make...your 500 watt power supply into a 460 watt unit.

In addition to this...what needs to be taken into account is that each degree that your computer components are operating at...under powered...adds more heat to the equation.

Consider also...the possibility...that ratings given by the manufacturer of single components...such as graphics cards...need to be treated with skepticism... Manufacturers may minimize support issues and under rate the power required...in order to make a larger profit.

The above has not taken into account...the issue of high quality vs poor quality units...Power supplies convert voltages from wall outlets to lower levels used by the PC. During this conversion, some power is lost as heat. The efficiency level of the PSU determines how much extra power must be put into the power supply to run the PC. A high quality PSU can help reduce the noise and heat generated within a computer system. The higher the efficiency rating the less heat the PSU has to deal with.

Therefore heat is the computers enemy...The hotter the temperature your PSU is forced to run at...the poorer the supply of power the rest of the components will receive...which has been known to lead to such things as crashes, freezing, rebooting, BSOD’s, and video distortion, as well as partial and complete failure of other components.

The fact is very few PSU’s are capable of producing the wattage that the companies advertise.

For a very good comprehension of recommended brand names, wattage, and models in listed categories...Plus much more...check out this link. Power Supply Information and Selection

~~blinkk~~ · 05-18-2009, 07:16 PM

Like everyone said.

Yeah it will be good until the PSU blows and brings the VC and mobo with it.

Get a corsair 650/750. Pc Power and Cooling 610/750.

Also isn't vista $100?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488

Good PSU's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256045
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

Any of those would be excellent.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143178

$10 extra.

Faster clock speeds. All around better. If you get the gts 250. Get a 750 watt PSU.

**ssj4Gogeta** · 05-18-2009, 10:49 PM

You could go with an E8500 and overclock it to 4.0GHz. Ideal processor for gaming.

Steve412 · 05-19-2009, 07:08 AM

ok thanks for the suggestions, here are the changes i've made.

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
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HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136074
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OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488

it was a toss betwen basic and premium, i probably won't use the extra stuff on premium....but hey maybe i will.

ssJ4gogeta please read the persons post before you suggest stuff. :P

**ssj4Gogeta** · 05-19-2009, 07:21 AM

sorry, I think I had too many tabs open. entered in the wrong one.

Tumbleweed36 · 05-19-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssj4Gogeta

sorry, I think I had too many tabs open. entered in the wrong one.

No foul, that is a very easy mistake to make when one is working on several threads at one time. Honest mistake that we all make at times. Have a great day.

05-17-2009, 05:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
Steve412 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2 OS: XP media center	Will this build work out? This will be for gaming(not hardcore), i prefer mmorpgs but might get into fps if this build can keep up with the action. I think i have all compatible parts. However i'm a newblet and i need some people to double check it and make sure it will all work. CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811103011 - $100 --------------------------------------------------------------- MotherBoard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128384 - $130 --------------------------------------------------------------- CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103291 - $150 (free shipping) --------------------------------------------------------------- GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130339 - $130 --------------------------------------------------------------- PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182185 - $60 (free shipping) --------------------------------------------------------------- HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148262 - $55 (free shipping) --------------------------------------------------------------- DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151173 - $27 --------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORY: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 - $59 (free shipping) --------------------------------------------------------------- OS: I'm not sure which OS would be better for gaming, but this is the one i picked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116378 - $140 (ouch) --------------------------------------------------------------- Sound: Might not need this if the MoBo integrated sound is good enough. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you post any suggestions please keep it under $1000 and AMD (for some reason i hate Intel) __________________ Believe what you want, know that you're wrong.

05-17-2009, 06:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,677 OS: XP Professional	Re: Will this build work out? First of all, the Rosewill power supplies are a bunch of junk. You need to take a look at the Corsair 650: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

05-17-2009, 08:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,719 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Will this build work out? Agreed on the Rosewill PSU. They are NOT good. Seagate HDD's have had some issues so I suggest going with WD. Save some money on the RAM and get PC 6400. XP 64Bit is not the ideal OS. Drivers are very scarce for it. Go with XP 32Bit (Pro has no advantages over Home) or Windows 7.

05-17-2009, 08:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Net Jockey TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deroche BC. Canada Posts: 565 OS: XP Pro sp 3 My System	Re: Will this build work out? What one needs to know about...the relation of the negative effects of heat on the computer...That can be caused by the power supply. Manufacturers test their PSU's at a set temperature...from this their rating is determined... for most this No. is 25 degrees Celsius...which falls short of the temperature that most computers are capable of achieving. Given that a PSU will actually lose 2-5 watts per one degree of heat above the 25 Degree Celsius testing temperature...coupled with the fact that computers tend to run at 10 degrees higher than room temperature... In the summer time when the room temperature can easily reach 80 degrees F... your computer will be running at 33 Degrees C. or 90 Degrees F. So the...math can make...your 500 watt power supply into a 460 watt unit. In addition to this...what needs to be taken into account is that each degree that your computer components are operating at...under powered...adds more heat to the equation. Consider also...the possibility...that ratings given by the manufacturer of single components...such as graphics cards...need to be treated with skepticism... Manufacturers may minimize support issues and under rate the power required...in order to make a larger profit. The above has not taken into account...the issue of high quality vs poor quality units...Power supplies convert voltages from wall outlets to lower levels used by the PC. During this conversion, some power is lost as heat. The efficiency level of the PSU determines how much extra power must be put into the power supply to run the PC. A high quality PSU can help reduce the noise and heat generated within a computer system. The higher the efficiency rating the less heat the PSU has to deal with. Therefore heat is the computers enemy...The hotter the temperature your PSU is forced to run at...the poorer the supply of power the rest of the components will receive...which has been known to lead to such things as crashes, freezing, rebooting, BSOD’s, and video distortion, as well as partial and complete failure of other components. The fact is very few PSU’s are capable of producing the wattage that the companies advertise. For a very good comprehension of recommended brand names, wattage, and models in listed categories...Plus much more...check out this link. Power Supply Information and Selection

05-18-2009, 07:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~blinkk~~ Troubled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 35 OS: Xp	Re: Will this build work out? Like everyone said. Yeah it will be good until the PSU blows and brings the VC and mobo with it. Get a corsair 650/750. Pc Power and Cooling 610/750. Also isn't vista $100? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 Good PSU's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256045 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 Any of those would be excellent. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143178 $10 extra. Faster clock speeds. All around better. If you get the gts 250. Get a 750 watt PSU.

05-18-2009, 10:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
ssj4Gogeta Custom User Title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: India Posts: 1,867 OS: Windows XP SP2, Vista, Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, Leopard (Kalyway) My System	Re: Will this build work out? You could go with an E8500 and overclock it to 4.0GHz. Ideal processor for gaming.

05-19-2009, 07:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Steve412 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2 OS: XP media center	Re: Will this build work out? ok thanks for the suggestions, here are the changes i've made. PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136074 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 it was a toss betwen basic and premium, i probably won't use the extra stuff on premium....but hey maybe i will. ssJ4gogeta please read the persons post before you suggest stuff. :P __________________ Believe what you want, know that you're wrong.

05-19-2009, 07:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
ssj4Gogeta Custom User Title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: India Posts: 1,867 OS: Windows XP SP2, Vista, Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, Leopard (Kalyway) My System	Re: Will this build work out? sorry, I think I had too many tabs open. entered in the wrong one.