[SOLVED] First Time Buliding

xNaStYx · 03-19-2009, 07:45 PM

Hey everyone. New here. Sorry in advance because I bet you read a ton of these new posts everyday. Anyways, my birthday is coming up soon and I was planning on having them buy the parts and me building it. Although I have no experience in building, I don't see how it could be too hard. Plus all of my friends have custom built computer and I could always ask them for help. I am looking for a gaming computer that can play high end games. They haven't decided on a budget yet because my birthday is still a little ways away. What should they be expecting to have to pay for one? Also, I have no idea which parts to buy so if someone could help me out and lead me in the right direction, that would be great. Thanks

xNaStYx · 03-20-2009, 05:04 AM

Can someone give me a list of parts that would be good for around $1,000??

chowder_pants · 03-20-2009, 06:20 AM

I think you might have asked too vague of a question. Look at the sticky above titled "Please Read This Before Posting". It asks some very important questions that the guys can use to answer your question. I believe there are too many variables associated to give you a an answer without know certain things about what you have currently and are looking to do with the computer.

xNaStYx · 03-20-2009, 01:04 PM

1. Budget: Around $1,000

2. Brands: Anything that would work

3. Multitasking: Gaming and school work

4. Gaming: Yes, I plan on gaming, mostly new games and old.

5. Calculations: Most likely nothing special

6. Overclocking: Not really unless I have to

7. Storage: Just games and some school work

8. Legacy Support: I don't know?

9. Operating System: I dont really know between Vista or XP

10. Case: A cool looking case that would be able to hold everything

11. Accessories: I am going to need keyboard and a mouse as I don't have them already. Nothing special, just normal stuff.

12. Recycled Components: No

13. Monitor: I am going to need a monitor. Nothing special, I guess normal sized

14. Stores: I'm guessing newegg.com... That's the only one i really know of.

15. Location: USA

~~connor-53~~ · 03-20-2009, 01:47 PM

Alright, you have a good sized budget so lets start

Motherboard: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...10100&CatId=13

That will shred any other mobo you can find. Great price to

GPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...768&CatId=2758

You will need thermal paste also: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...2883&CatId=503

Amazing, also comes with 4 Gigs of RAM so you won't need to buy it separate!

GPU Fan: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...299&CatId=1588

That should keep it nice and cool.

Case: You can really pick anything that fits a ATX mobo just make sure you don't get a case PSU combo. Exampleof one to get: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...6&Sku=ULT33182

Case Fans: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...6142&CatId=802

You can support 2 of them, I would suggest getting at least one.

DVD/CD Drive: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...05950&CatId=88

Anything really works

Hard Drive: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...250&CatId=2458

Big HD, will hold alot

PSU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...424&CatId=2533

That will hold any upgrades for the next 5 years.

Monitor: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7854&CatId=170

Great buy

Keyboard: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...752&CatId=1482

Video Card: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...366&CatId=1826

Or
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...035&CatId=2306

Its really up to you get the 1st one for light gaming, the 2nd for intense higher end gaming.

That will work for any new game for next 3+ years.

Vista Home Premium: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...812&CatId=3778

Good luck

Total $ 955 or $980 USD.

I can make it cheaper or else add some more upgrades if you want, that computer will be a top end one for about a year or so.

**wrench97** · 03-20-2009, 02:35 PM

Andyd103 · 03-20-2009, 07:52 PM

If you haven't built a computer before you might want to have someone who knows what they're doing to help you just so you can see first hand how it should be done.

**linderman** · 03-21-2009, 10:34 AM

there are some decent youtube videos that show how to put a system together too ............ google will get you there

and also look thru this

How to Bench Test Your System

xNaStYx · 03-21-2009, 07:41 PM

I have a ton of friends that could help me build it so that isn't really a problem. I am really liking everything connor-53 posted. One question... What is so bad about DDR3?

**linderman** · 03-21-2009, 07:51 PM

its slower than DDR2 ------------ the larger latencies of the DDR3 ram kill its potential

and their are alot of kinks with DDR3 & their respective motherboards that just plain havent been ironed out ............ they are selling soooooo slowly ...... they may never get ironed out

**linderman** · 03-21-2009, 07:53 PM

the system from post #6 has the muscle and the bang for the buck ratio in its favor !

xNaStYx · 03-21-2009, 08:00 PM

I really liked that case from post #5. Could I get something similar to a case from post #5 with a system like post #6?

**linderman** · 03-21-2009, 08:08 PM

yes ............... the case from post #5 will work

here is one of my fav air flow cases of lately

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0tunnel%20case

xNaStYx · 03-21-2009, 08:10 PM

Post 6 is also missing fans and monitor and keyboard and mouse right? Or did I miss all of those?

**linderman** · 03-21-2009, 08:11 PM

use the 700 watt power supply that comes with it for a door stop though !

xNaStYx · 03-21-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

use the 700 watt power supply that comes with it for a door stop though !

This may be a really dumb question, but the 700W power supply that comes with what?

xNaStYx · 03-21-2009, 08:55 PM

~~connor-53~~ · 03-21-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

use the 700 watt power supply that comes with it for a door stop though !

lmfao

~~connor-53~~ · 03-21-2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xNaStYx

This may be a really dumb question, but the 700W power supply that comes with what?

He is saying the case he suggested the PSU that it comes with sucks *** so you might as well use it as a door stop....Make sure you get a new PSU 650+ Watts.

~~connor-53~~ · 03-21-2009, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xNaStYx

Okay, So I combined both Post #5 and #6 together and came up with a list. There is more than likely something wrong with it because I don't know a lot when it comes to this stuff. If I could get some input and any advice for changes I would really appreciate it. Thanks

Ok, you can go faster with RAM

Example: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...080&CatId=2531

Get this for the case fans, its a 2 pack and you can use both
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...2790&CatId=802

If you really want this computer to be amazing, add a good sound card

Example:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...071&CatId=2771

I would say defiantly do the RAM and Case fans I posted but the sound card is completely optional.

03-19-2009, 07:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	[SOLVED] First Time Buliding Hey everyone. New here. Sorry in advance because I bet you read a ton of these new posts everyday. Anyways, my birthday is coming up soon and I was planning on having them buy the parts and me building it. Although I have no experience in building, I don't see how it could be too hard. Plus all of my friends have custom built computer and I could always ask them for help. I am looking for a gaming computer that can play high end games. They haven't decided on a budget yet because my birthday is still a little ways away. What should they be expecting to have to pay for one? Also, I have no idea which parts to buy so if someone could help me out and lead me in the right direction, that would be great. Thanks

03-20-2009, 05:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	Re: First Time Buliding Can someone give me a list of parts that would be good for around $1,000??

03-20-2009, 06:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
chowder_pants Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 171 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: First Time Buliding I think you might have asked too vague of a question. Look at the sticky above titled "Please Read This Before Posting". It asks some very important questions that the guys can use to answer your question. I believe there are too many variables associated to give you a an answer without know certain things about what you have currently and are looking to do with the computer.

03-20-2009, 01:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	Re: First Time Buliding 1. Budget: Around $1,000 2. Brands: Anything that would work 3. Multitasking: Gaming and school work 4. Gaming: Yes, I plan on gaming, mostly new games and old. 5. Calculations: Most likely nothing special 6. Overclocking: Not really unless I have to 7. Storage: Just games and some school work 8. Legacy Support: I don't know? 9. Operating System: I dont really know between Vista or XP 10. Case: A cool looking case that would be able to hold everything 11. Accessories: I am going to need keyboard and a mouse as I don't have them already. Nothing special, just normal stuff. 12. Recycled Components: No 13. Monitor: I am going to need a monitor. Nothing special, I guess normal sized 14. Stores: I'm guessing newegg.com... That's the only one i really know of. 15. Location: USA

03-20-2009, 01:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~connor-53~~ Troubled Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 525 OS: Vista Home Prem. 64 bit My System	Re: First Time Buliding Alright, you have a good sized budget so lets start Motherboard: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...10100&CatId=13 That will shred any other mobo you can find. Great price to GPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...768&CatId=2758 You will need thermal paste also: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...2883&CatId=503 Amazing, also comes with 4 Gigs of RAM so you won't need to buy it separate! GPU Fan: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...299&CatId=1588 That should keep it nice and cool. Case: You can really pick anything that fits a ATX mobo just make sure you don't get a case PSU combo. Exampleof one to get: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...6&Sku=ULT33182 Case Fans: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...6142&CatId=802 You can support 2 of them, I would suggest getting at least one. DVD/CD Drive: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...05950&CatId=88 Anything really works Hard Drive: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...250&CatId=2458 Big HD, will hold alot PSU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...424&CatId=2533 That will hold any upgrades for the next 5 years. Monitor: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7854&CatId=170 Great buy Keyboard: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...752&CatId=1482 Video Card: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...366&CatId=1826 Or http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...035&CatId=2306 Its really up to you get the 1st one for light gaming, the 2nd for intense higher end gaming. That will work for any new game for next 3+ years. Vista Home Premium: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...812&CatId=3778 Good luck Total $ 955 or $980 USD. I can make it cheaper or else add some more upgrades if you want, that computer will be a top end one for about a year or so. Last edited by connor-53; 03-20-2009 at 01:56 PM.

03-20-2009, 02:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,469 OS: Win7	Re: First Time Buliding Yea you don't want a DDR3 motherboard too buggy and for a couple of bucks more you can have a 9800GT over a 9600Gt. Nor do you want a EOL CPU with the slower FSB, A C2D E8500 will outperform a Q6xxx CPU for gaming> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/d...x1050,818.html Link Discp. Cost Rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115036 E8500 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184 DDR2 800 2x2 $44.99 25.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...;20EP45%20UD3P GA EP45 UD3P $134.99 20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148294 SEA 500G $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9009&Tpk=850tx 850TX $139.00 20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 Vista HP 64 $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068 Case $49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102801 HD4870 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106287 DVD burner $22.99 $961.92 $65.00 Total $896.92 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

03-20-2009, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Andyd103 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern New England Posts: 24 OS: WinXP SP3	Re: First Time Buliding If you haven't built a computer before you might want to have someone who knows what they're doing to help you just so you can see first hand how it should be done.

03-21-2009, 10:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: First Time Buliding there are some decent youtube videos that show how to put a system together too ............ google will get you there and also look thru this How to Bench Test Your System __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

03-21-2009, 07:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	Re: First Time Buliding I have a ton of friends that could help me build it so that isn't really a problem. I am really liking everything connor-53 posted. One question... What is so bad about DDR3?

03-21-2009, 07:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: First Time Buliding its slower than DDR2 ------------ the larger latencies of the DDR3 ram kill its potential and their are alot of kinks with DDR3 & their respective motherboards that just plain havent been ironed out ............ they are selling soooooo slowly ...... they may never get ironed out __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

03-21-2009, 07:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: First Time Buliding the system from post #6 has the muscle and the bang for the buck ratio in its favor ! __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

03-21-2009, 08:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	Re: First Time Buliding I really liked that case from post #5. Could I get something similar to a case from post #5 with a system like post #6? Last edited by xNaStYx; 03-21-2009 at 08:09 PM.

03-21-2009, 08:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: First Time Buliding yes ............... the case from post #5 will work here is one of my fav air flow cases of lately http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0tunnel%20case __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

03-21-2009, 08:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	Re: First Time Buliding Post 6 is also missing fans and monitor and keyboard and mouse right? Or did I miss all of those?

03-21-2009, 08:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: First Time Buliding use the 700 watt power supply that comes with it for a door stop though ! __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

03-21-2009, 08:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
xNaStYx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 66 OS: no clue	Re: First Time Buliding Okay, So I combined both Post #5 and #6 together and came up with a list. There is more than likely something wrong with it because I don't know a lot when it comes to this stuff. If I could get some input and any advice for changes I would really appreciate it. Thanks Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20EP45%20UD3P Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115036 Procesor Fan: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...LxbdyrTWs1AIpQ Thermal Paste: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...2883&CatId=503 Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184 Case: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...6&Sku=ULT33182 Case Fan: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...6142&CatId=802 DVD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106287 Harddrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148294 Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9009&Tpk=850tx Monitor: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7854&CatId=170 Keyboard: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...9498&CatId=142 Mouse: anything lol Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102801 Vista: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 Last edited by xNaStYx; 03-21-2009 at 08:57 PM.