yet another will it work? thread

BadCommando · 12-29-2008, 09:26 PM

i am in the process of building a new computer, i already have an 8800gt and the hard drives and cd drives but the rest i am planning on buying hopefully for under $400. the computer is mostly for gaming but it doesn't need to be a hardcore awesome rig, just something to play games at a decent frame rate with medium graphics.
here's what i have so far:

first choice motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131340
second choice motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157139

cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103272

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231144

power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005

case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

i have built a few computers before (one of which failed terribly) but i have never over clocked, i was hoping to get a set up which would allow me to do that in the future, at least for the cpu and ram. i would appreciate any input on which motherboard to pick and the build in general thanks.

edit:
i should add that i am buying a few fans to fill up the empty slots in the case and i am thinking about getting an after market cpu cooler so that i can OC.

**wrench97** · 12-30-2008, 02:27 AM

AMD units do not overclock nearly as well as Intel cpu's.
With AMD the memory controller is on the cpu and 1066 ram is only supported by AM2+ cpu's(Phenoms) so you need DDR2 800.> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...49&l3=758&l4=0

Either board is decent I would go with the Asus if it's available

BadCommando · 12-30-2008, 11:05 AM

thanks for the quick reply.
unfortunately i do not have the money to go with intel and i am aware that amd does not oc as high as intel but i just want to fiddle around with it for now and kinda see what i can do.

how does this cpu look?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300

i may buy the asus mobo from tigerdirect since they have the parts instock. has anyone ever dealt with them? are they a good company?

**wrench97** · 12-30-2008, 11:18 AM

That is a AM2+ x2 so should allow 1 stick per channel of 1066 ram.
Tiger is ok they also have brick and mortar stores in FLA and Canada and some others.

On the Intel AMD thing I hear that a lot but remember it's only the cpu cost that is more a E7300 is about $120 FYI

BadCommando · 12-30-2008, 11:26 AM

i appreciate the help. like i said, my budget is 400 and im at about 390 without shipping so i think ill just stick with amd. maybe i can upgrade my mobo and cpu sometime in the future.

oh and one last question. will a socket am2 fan and heatsink work with an am2+ cpu?

**wrench97** · 12-30-2008, 01:11 PM

One other thing the AMD black Edition CPU's do not come with s heat sink and fan assembly.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118223
Or similar

BadCommando · 12-30-2008, 03:27 PM

the reviews on that one said that it did come with a stock heatsink/fan so i may stick with that for now and buy something better when i decide to oc it.

**wrench97** · 12-30-2008, 03:38 PM

Yes that will do just fine.

BadCommando · 12-30-2008, 03:44 PM

alright this is what ive got:

PSU same as above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005

RAM same as above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231144

CPU changed from above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300

thanks for all the help. after messing up my last build i would really like to make sure that i get this one right.

**wrench97** · 12-30-2008, 04:04 PM

Only concern I have is the cpu is relatively new and requires the 804 bios which is also new, a fresh board will have the latest bios a board that has been on the shelf for a couple of months may not, most of the time a AMD chip will boot and allow the bios update but this one being new I swear to it.
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...el=M3A78&os=17

BadCommando · 12-30-2008, 04:09 PM

i think ill take my chances with the cpu, im going to order the parts today and hopefully get them by the end of the week. ill tell you how everything goes.

taydan04 · 12-30-2008, 08:08 PM

there doesnt seem to be any gpu's listed il sujest something here that will change your life, it comes in the form of an NvIDIA GeForce 8600GT, this card runs Crysis at 1440x900 on medium Settings at about 30FPS average it is also as cheap as dog poo

BadCommando · 12-30-2008, 09:04 PM

i already have an 8800 gt in my current computer(a dell) that i am going to use.

12-29-2008, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	yet another will it work? thread i am in the process of building a new computer, i already have an 8800gt and the hard drives and cd drives but the rest i am planning on buying hopefully for under $400. the computer is mostly for gaming but it doesn't need to be a hardcore awesome rig, just something to play games at a decent frame rate with medium graphics. here's what i have so far: first choice motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131340 second choice motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157139 cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103272 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231144 power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005 case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042 i have built a few computers before (one of which failed terribly) but i have never over clocked, i was hoping to get a set up which would allow me to do that in the future, at least for the cpu and ram. i would appreciate any input on which motherboard to pick and the build in general thanks. edit: i should add that i am buying a few fans to fill up the empty slots in the case and i am thinking about getting an after market cpu cooler so that i can OC. Last edited by BadCommando; 12-29-2008 at 09:28 PM.

12-30-2008, 02:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,607 OS: Win7	Re: yet another will it work? thread AMD units do not overclock nearly as well as Intel cpu's. With AMD the memory controller is on the cpu and 1066 ram is only supported by AM2+ cpu's(Phenoms) so you need DDR2 800.> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...49&l3=758&l4=0 Either board is decent I would go with the Asus if it's available __________________ Power Supply and Selection

12-30-2008, 11:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	Re: yet another will it work? thread thanks for the quick reply. unfortunately i do not have the money to go with intel and i am aware that amd does not oc as high as intel but i just want to fiddle around with it for now and kinda see what i can do. how does this cpu look?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300 i may buy the asus mobo from tigerdirect since they have the parts instock. has anyone ever dealt with them? are they a good company? Last edited by BadCommando; 12-30-2008 at 11:11 AM.

12-30-2008, 11:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,607 OS: Win7	Re: yet another will it work? thread That is a AM2+ x2 so should allow 1 stick per channel of 1066 ram. Tiger is ok they also have brick and mortar stores in FLA and Canada and some others. On the Intel AMD thing I hear that a lot but remember it's only the cpu cost that is more a E7300 is about $120 FYI __________________ Power Supply and Selection

12-30-2008, 11:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	Re: yet another will it work? thread i appreciate the help. like i said, my budget is 400 and im at about 390 without shipping so i think ill just stick with amd. maybe i can upgrade my mobo and cpu sometime in the future. oh and one last question. will a socket am2 fan and heatsink work with an am2+ cpu? Last edited by BadCommando; 12-30-2008 at 11:33 AM.

12-30-2008, 01:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,607 OS: Win7	Re: yet another will it work? thread One other thing the AMD black Edition CPU's do not come with s heat sink and fan assembly. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118223 Or similar __________________ Power Supply and Selection

12-30-2008, 03:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	Re: yet another will it work? thread the reviews on that one said that it did come with a stock heatsink/fan so i may stick with that for now and buy something better when i decide to oc it. Last edited by BadCommando; 12-30-2008 at 03:38 PM.

12-30-2008, 03:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,607 OS: Win7	Re: yet another will it work? thread Yes that will do just fine. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

12-30-2008, 03:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	Re: yet another will it work? thread alright this is what ive got: PSU same as above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005 RAM same as above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231144 CPU changed from above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103300 thanks for all the help. after messing up my last build i would really like to make sure that i get this one right.

12-30-2008, 04:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,607 OS: Win7	Re: yet another will it work? thread Only concern I have is the cpu is relatively new and requires the 804 bios which is also new, a fresh board will have the latest bios a board that has been on the shelf for a couple of months may not, most of the time a AMD chip will boot and allow the bios update but this one being new I swear to it. http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...el=M3A78&os=17 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

12-30-2008, 04:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	Re: yet another will it work? thread i think ill take my chances with the cpu, im going to order the parts today and hopefully get them by the end of the week. ill tell you how everything goes.

12-30-2008, 08:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
taydan04 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 213 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP2/ Ubuntu 9.04 My System	Re: yet another will it work? thread there doesnt seem to be any gpu's listed il sujest something here that will change your life, it comes in the form of an NvIDIA GeForce 8600GT, this card runs Crysis at 1440x900 on medium Settings at about 30FPS average it is also as cheap as dog poo

12-30-2008, 09:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
BadCommando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14 OS: xp media center	Re: yet another will it work? thread i already have an 8800 gt in my current computer(a dell) that i am going to use.