Left 4 Dead Performance Issues.

Darkf0x · 12-21-2008, 02:03 PM

Well here's the lowdown I have a fairly simple rig.

Spec's are;

Radeon x1950 pro power colour
Intel Celeron D 3.2 clocked to ~3.4
2048 DDR2 333Mhz RAM
Windows Vista Home Basic

Here's my problem, I basically get 10-20 fps on Left 4 Dead, no matter what settings I'm running, there is no viruses or malware none of that crap, it's a clean install ext, and I'm getting unplayable FPS.

Is it the fact my processor isnt up to Vista and higher spec games?

If so I can upgrade this week.

Next question, if I upgraded to a Core 2 Duo 2.2 and 666Mhz DDR2 RAM (2GB).

Would this make a massive difference?

Thank you Stephen.

Mcninjaguy · 12-21-2008, 02:11 PM

so whats your budget for upgarding?

and yea a slower dual core is much faster than higher clocked single core since it can do 2 tasks at once

you can get a brand new computer pretty much for $400 maybe less

that would be
ram
CPU
motherboard
graphics card
PSU

ohh and this thread should be moved to building

Darkf0x · 12-21-2008, 02:19 PM

Hmmm well I'm not 100% sure yet, but I mean the graphics card I have is more than enoguh for the games I play and them motherboard I have is future proof, I know I can get hold of the 2.2 for around £54, and the ram for £22, so your saying it would make a big difference...

And yeah sorry I realised when I posted D:.

Stephen, thanks for your reply.

Mcninjaguy · 12-21-2008, 03:54 PM

do you have favourite site for computer parts I use newegg.com/ca a lot but that only serves Canada, US and China.

I m gonna try use misco.co.uk

Umm can you post your exact motherboard and Power supply unit since these will be the deciding factors for what you get.

you can get a 4000 series ATI card for around this price 62 ( idon't know the shortcut for english currency)
http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/...329113&CatId=0

well if you can get hold of a intel core 2 duo for 55 same make sure your motherboard can support the new ram (800mhz) im guessing?

I know you're going to need a new PSU
corsair is really nice PSU company
http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/...662&CatId=3024

I have the exact same one powering my system (750w)

Darkf0x · 12-22-2008, 04:37 AM

Well here in England I use www.aria.co.uk - good company very cheep.

Well heres my motherboard specs.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...CoreDual-SATA2

The RAM I'm going to get is 667MHZ as that's what I can support.

Unbuffered as standard...

The CPU - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...&rqcType=q#rqc

The RAM - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=28331

And yes your right I will be needing a new PSU as mine atm is only a 450w and I understand the Radeon x1950 need's a 500w so i'm pushing it a bit already.

So I think i'll aim for a 600 I think as my budget isnt in the millions :P.

Thanks for the replies mate.

So after the little upgrade I'll be running

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2GHz
Corsair 2GB PC2-5300 C4 XMS2 (2x1GB)
Radeon x1950 Pro Power Colour (512mb)
Windows Vista Home Basic

Do you think that will be enough to power vista and games like Left 4 Dead to a acceptable level?

~ Stephen.

EDIT: This is the PSU I was looking at look at the damn price - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=22653

How cheap is that :/.

And the reviews are bloody good to.

Mcninjaguy · 12-22-2008, 07:39 AM

I wouldn't get it EVER!

you'll want to go for a a 650w to a 750w so when you do change your video card you won't have to buy another PSU
This cooler master
700w
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=30606
rice:

£75.38 exc. VAT
£86.69 inc. VAT
a lot pricier but worth it since this is like the body of your computer if it breaks or starts malfunctioning/ putting out weird voltages your whole computer get fried.

look at this PSU too
not quite the same quality as the Cooler master but its ok
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=29097

Darkf0x · 12-22-2008, 07:41 AM

Right okay...

So.. PSU's can be pretty pricey :P.

So if I sorted my pcw out, and got that system...
Minus the RAM as I fondled around with my computer before and found the RAM what i'm using now is already 667 not 333 so I dont even need to fiddle with that.

So that makes me £30 better off what you suggest should go towards the PSU?

Mcninjaguy · 12-22-2008, 07:43 AM

yea a good PSU is like a good foundation for a building

you can always expand later without worrying about it crumbling.

Darkf0x · 12-22-2008, 07:45 AM

Right okay mate, I really appreciate the help and have taken it onboard when I go to buy up later this week i'll get the processor, and a branded pcw 650w+ I shouldnt be looking anywere past £90 really for this.

Thanks again!!

Stephen.

Mcninjaguy · 12-22-2008, 08:07 AM

well I'm glad you took the advice, good hunting!

12-21-2008, 02:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Darkf0x Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England, Manchester Posts: 73 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic (64) My System	Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. Well here's the lowdown I have a fairly simple rig. Spec's are; Radeon x1950 pro power colour Intel Celeron D 3.2 clocked to ~3.4 2048 DDR2 333Mhz RAM Windows Vista Home Basic Here's my problem, I basically get 10-20 fps on Left 4 Dead, no matter what settings I'm running, there is no viruses or malware none of that crap, it's a clean install ext, and I'm getting unplayable FPS. Is it the fact my processor isnt up to Vista and higher spec games? If so I can upgrade this week. Next question, if I upgraded to a Core 2 Duo 2.2 and 666Mhz DDR2 RAM (2GB). Would this make a massive difference? Thank you Stephen.

12-21-2008, 02:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. so whats your budget for upgarding? and yea a slower dual core is much faster than higher clocked single core since it can do 2 tasks at once you can get a brand new computer pretty much for $400 maybe less that would be ram CPU motherboard graphics card PSU ohh and this thread should be moved to building

12-21-2008, 02:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Darkf0x Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England, Manchester Posts: 73 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic (64) My System	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. Hmmm well I'm not 100% sure yet, but I mean the graphics card I have is more than enoguh for the games I play and them motherboard I have is future proof, I know I can get hold of the 2.2 for around £54, and the ram for £22, so your saying it would make a big difference... And yeah sorry I realised when I posted D:. Stephen, thanks for your reply.

12-21-2008, 03:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. do you have favourite site for computer parts I use newegg.com/ca a lot but that only serves Canada, US and China. I m gonna try use misco.co.uk Umm can you post your exact motherboard and Power supply unit since these will be the deciding factors for what you get. you can get a 4000 series ATI card for around this price 62 ( idon't know the shortcut for english currency) http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/...329113&CatId=0 well if you can get hold of a intel core 2 duo for 55 same make sure your motherboard can support the new ram (800mhz) im guessing? I know you're going to need a new PSU corsair is really nice PSU company http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/...662&CatId=3024 I have the exact same one powering my system (750w)

12-22-2008, 04:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Darkf0x Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England, Manchester Posts: 73 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic (64) My System	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. Well here in England I use www.aria.co.uk - good company very cheep. Well heres my motherboard specs. http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...CoreDual-SATA2 The RAM I'm going to get is 667MHZ as that's what I can support. Unbuffered as standard... The CPU - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...&rqcType=q#rqc The RAM - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=28331 And yes your right I will be needing a new PSU as mine atm is only a 450w and I understand the Radeon x1950 need's a 500w so i'm pushing it a bit already. So I think i'll aim for a 600 I think as my budget isnt in the millions :P. Thanks for the replies mate. So after the little upgrade I'll be running Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2GHz Corsair 2GB PC2-5300 C4 XMS2 (2x1GB) Radeon x1950 Pro Power Colour (512mb) Windows Vista Home Basic Do you think that will be enough to power vista and games like Left 4 Dead to a acceptable level? ~ Stephen. EDIT: This is the PSU I was looking at look at the damn price - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=22653 How cheap is that :/. And the reviews are bloody good to. Last edited by Darkf0x; 12-22-2008 at 04:47 AM.

12-22-2008, 07:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. I wouldn't get it EVER! you'll want to go for a a 650w to a 750w so when you do change your video card you won't have to buy another PSU This cooler master 700w http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=30606 rice: £75.38 exc. VAT £86.69 inc. VAT a lot pricier but worth it since this is like the body of your computer if it breaks or starts malfunctioning/ putting out weird voltages your whole computer get fried. look at this PSU too not quite the same quality as the Cooler master but its ok http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=29097

12-22-2008, 07:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
Darkf0x Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England, Manchester Posts: 73 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic (64) My System	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. Right okay... So.. PSU's can be pretty pricey :P. So if I sorted my pcw out, and got that system... Minus the RAM as I fondled around with my computer before and found the RAM what i'm using now is already 667 not 333 so I dont even need to fiddle with that. So that makes me £30 better off what you suggest should go towards the PSU?

12-22-2008, 07:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. yea a good PSU is like a good foundation for a building you can always expand later without worrying about it crumbling.

12-22-2008, 07:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Darkf0x Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England, Manchester Posts: 73 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic (64) My System	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. Right okay mate, I really appreciate the help and have taken it onboard when I go to buy up later this week i'll get the processor, and a branded pcw 650w+ I shouldnt be looking anywere past £90 really for this. Thanks again!! Stephen.

12-22-2008, 08:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Left 4 Dead Performance Issues. well I'm glad you took the advice, good hunting!