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Old 09-28-2008, 11:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation First Time Builder- Need a Build

1. Budget: Under $2000, but when it's worth it I am willing to go more

2. Brands:No Preference

3. Multitasking: Yes, I have multiple applications running at once, adobe, firefox, IE, Utorrent, Word, etc.

4. Gaming: Yes, this is the main reason for my build, COD4, and all the new games...

5. Calculations: Some programming in C++ if that counts.

6. Overclocking: Probably, although I've never done it before.

7. Storage: At the least, 300gb, speed over amount though

8. Legacy Support: I dont think so, would like to possibly be able to hook up to my 32 inch lcd tv, while also using a 19 inch regular monitor

9. Operating System: Vista

10. Case: Yes, space is not a problem, don't want to risk anything by over packing components.

11. Accessories: No

12. Recycled Components:USB mouse, USB keyboard, USB monitor

13. Monitor: No

14. Stores:No

15. Location: US of A
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

Do you have a OS preference XP,Vista 32 or 64 bit or do you already have an OS?
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

Vista, I don't know about 32 vs. 64 probably 64 if its worth it.
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

Blue ray or standard DVD drive?
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Recommendation?
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here is a starting point the case can be changed out to your style/taste you will need 2 video cards to have 3 outputs these ATI cards are good at HDMI and will pass audio through the HDMI cable they could be swapped out for the lower priced HD4850 without a problem to lower the cost. if you intend to play or burn Bluray movies then sub or add a bluray drive if not then I don't see you needing it for gaming anytime soon, I included Vista Home Prem 32 bit because 64 still has some driver issues I don't really see the need for it yet.

Link .........................................................................Disc .........Price...... Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128336 GA-X48-DS4 $224.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115041 Q9550 $324.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2KIT25664AA80A DDR2 800 $97.99 $40.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139007 CMPSU-1000HX $259.99 $20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814129113 Radeon HD 4870 $279.99 $25.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814129113 Radeon HD 4870 $279.99 $25.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119138 Case $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148335 Seadate 640 $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106073 DVD $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116485 Vista HP 32 $99.99

$1,878.90 $110.00
Total $1,768.90
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks man, so how would you rate a build like this?
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

It's a little over the top I would like a faster CPU for gaming but to get a faster Quad your looking a Q9650 for about $550 or about $225 more I doubt it's worth it, If you were straight gaming on a monitor rather then a 32" TV I would say go with the E8500 Dual core.
But this set up will fly with any game out now or in the near future, to run the 3 video outs you can't use crossfire because you will loose the the 2 outputs on the second card
but it's easy enough to turn off and on in CCC(Catalyst Control Center).
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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So this is everything I would need? Is there an HDMI slot in the case?
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

I don't have to be able to use my tv, as I do have a monitor, but if it's worth it I would be willing to do whatever in order to get the best performance to value ratio. In the future I could always just buy a new monitor.
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The cards come with a DVI to HDMI adapter you will need an HDMI cable.
The CPU comes with a fan/heat sink that I believe will be fine in your application if you should wish to overclock you should replace the stock unit with a better unit like a Zalman 9700.

Maybe some Fluff like a card reader or a second DVD drive but everything's there to run and play.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

But would I be better off with a setup for a monitor? I want whats best for gaming. I have cable internet and would play online a lot.
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No you'll be fine with this setup it's cheaper to go the other way is all.
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

Ok so say I want to go the other way. Now what would you replace with what?
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With dual monitors or 3 ?
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Re: First Time Builder- Need a Build

For Dual up to 22" wide screen Monitors I would say something like this.

Link..................................................................Discp. Cost Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115036 E8500 $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2KIT25664AA80A DDR2 800 $97.99 $40.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137 Case $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814129113 HD4870 $279.99 $25.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148335 Seagate 640 $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106073 DVD $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116485 Vista HP 32 $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 PSU 750tx $129.99 $20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131299 P5Q Pro $119.99 20

$1,108.91 $85.00

Total $1,023.91
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Is that a good motherboard? Anything worth upgrading
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That's a good board You could add a XFI gamer sound card if you don't like the onboard
but I would try the onboard first then add it if you don't like it. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102006
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Any specific reason for changing the case?
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Dropping to a single card and smaller PSU doesn't require the room to dissipate the heat
but there is no reason you can't still use the 1st case if you want to.
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