likonvampire

HELLO , I am trying to build a system by myself for the first time and would like to request for any valuable suggestions regarding the configuration that i have thought of :

sYSTEM Build PLAN :::

GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard(no dvi) -- OR ECS A780VM-M2 Motherboard60 (dvi included) (RECOMMENDATION NEEDED)

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - $ECS A780VM-M2 Motherboard60

Atx Case Powerup with 450 wATT Powers supply


Thermaltake TR2-R1 CPU Cooler :


Hard drive Western Digital 80gb Ide using old one , Upgrade later ...

Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P. Memory (2 x 1024)


Using present LCD monitor LG W2052TQ

The budget comes up to be for around $ 250 and that is my budget right now.


Is this system practical to build ??

Please suggest ...

1 g0t 0wn3d

id say ether wait or buy a premade computer just because the os is going to be 1/3 of your system cost...


if you wait around 500 you start to save money building your own

likonvampire

i guess you meant about the cost of the OS right , well i have 64 bit Vista already with me in order to load on to the system !!

likonvampire

Or i might get it off with Linux as a start ,

1 g0t 0wn3d

hmm well just to be safe id look for a good quality psu

likonvampire

Can you recommend me a good one that comes with the ATX tower or i would say around $80 for both ??

Thanks for the help

1 g0t 0wn3d

where are you located thats a tall order but ill see if i can find one

likonvampire

I am in the GTA ..

Thanks !!

grimx133

The CoolerMaster Elite RC-330 looks to be a nice case, never used one, but have used a centurion 534+ and it was decent. It's 48 and change at tigerdirect.ca and they have locations in the GTA. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...41413&CatId=32
It's also available cheaper at directcanada.com, but I don't know if they have any brick and mortar stores, or where they're located. Probably have to factor in shipping and then it'd be more expensive. Could try contacting them and see if they have a pickup option. http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
Tigerdirect does have one really really cheap case, don't know if I'd like to put anything in it though. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...09676&CatId=32
There are more cases under $50. You'd have to look and see if you like any, some may be fine. Here's their 25-49 range cases. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...49.99&CatId=32

PSU is something of a problem, you can get cheap ones, but it truly is a case of getting what you pay for. I order all my stuff from www.ncix.com , but they ship out of BC, only way you're going to come close to 80 (if you can) is buying from somewhere that you can pick it up. I got a 400 watt SeaSonic from ncix recently for 50 bucks and that's a great deal. Be advised though, if you are going to run any video card besides the onboard, you'll need a larger and more expensive power supply. You can get away if it's a real low end one, like the HD 2400 I use with the SeaSonic.
So, what are your plans for video? Onboard or a card, and if a card, how much of one? In fact, if you ever plan on doing any upgrading in the future, you might want to look at a larger supply now, they can last through more than just one build if it's a good one.
There's the OCZ StealthXStream 500 watt. Picked up a 600 watt model of this psu a few months ago for my parents machine. The 500 is 54 bucks after a 20 dollar rebate. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...2959&CatId=106
There are a lot of cheap ones, but I'd steer clear of them, you don't want your machine relying on stable power from some 20 or 30 buck psu, in the end it will let you down.

1 g0t 0wn3d

that sums it up very nicly

likonvampire

Hello thanks a lot for the nice reply , i will look into it , well on the additonal Graphics Card thing , I dont plan to put it up for atleast a year right now . So maybe in the future i will get a good one if i get the graphics carD.

i Will give you my feedback in sometime about what i decide , Btw i had this ATX on my mind before we started the discussion : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...=TC3J-4050%20P

Thanks again very much , i really appreciate for the valuable time you helped me out with !!

likonvampire

I just had another question , for the cooling part there is a Case fan + psu . Does the Cpu fan come as stock with the Cpu or i ll have to get that too ??

Well i have one on my budget till now , just wanted to make sure ! :)

grimx133

If it's a retail cpu, it comes with an HSF (heatsinkfan), OEM is just the cpu with no fan, you have to watch for that. The stock fans are ok, as long as your not overclocking, also they are a tad louder than an aftermarket HSF. If you're budgeting for an HSF, use the stock and put the money towards a decent power supply.

The case fans vary, some cases have lots, all the way down to none. Good airflow is crucial to low temperatures, dead air causes heat buildups. You should have at least one rear exhaust fan, aside from the psu, to pull the hot air out of the case.

The case/psu combo you linked to isn't much of a deal, specially if you're like the one reviewer and the psu lasts all of 28 minutes. When a psu dies, it can take other parts of your system out with it too. Voltage spikes eh.

In the end you'll have to decide how much of a gamble you want to take, personally I wouldn't touch a case/psu combo with the proverbial ten foot pole.

wrench97

What He Said ^^^

likonvampire

Thanks i think i will go with what you recommended , the OCZ power supply and will with a $20ish case !!

grimx133

It's not the best, but sure a lot better than a no name psu. Much better plan than the combo and I doubt you'll ever regret it. I was actually favourably impressed with my dad's 600 watt StealthXstream, can't hear it at all. Over the cpu fan anyway. Now I need to fit in some more case fans and a quiet HSF, but only go there once a year so won't be till next summer. Thousand clicks away eh.
An inexpensive case is ok, it isn't critical to the running of the machine, just makes a difference in ease of installation and cooling. Make sure to monitor your temps for a bit once you get it up and running, just to make sure. If it's too hot you can always add case fans relatively cheaply.

likonvampire

YEAH i will give you the feedback once i get it up and running or if i got any problems ;) lolz bTW will get a better case Thermaltake WingRS

i appreciate your valuable advice and suggestions .. thanks again

grimx133

You're very welcome.
The Thermaltake looks like a nice case. Just read a review on it, though there's one annoying add that comes up on some of the pages.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...g_rs_100_case/