New Computer

CairnisReed · 09-26-2008, 03:05 PM

Hey guys,
So im building a new computer, i posted on another site, they recommended a different forums, i posted there, and they recommened here, so Basicaly i'm buidling a new copmuter, im using http://www.ecollegepc.com/
I Have my mind on some things but others, not so much
and i was wondering if you guys could help me out
Heres what i know i want for it so far.

CPU -3.0 Ghz Intel Core Duo E8400 (6MB Cache,1333FThermal
Heatsink/Fan -Tak Quiet TR2 M21 RX A4021 18dBA
Motherboards - ?
Memory - 4GB PC6400 800mhz
Hard Drive - 320Gb 7200RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA300
2nd Hard Drive - None
CD / DVD / CDRW 1 - ?
CD / DVD / CDRW 2 - ?
Video Card - Nvidia GeForce 8600GTS
SLI/Crossfire - None
Operating System - Windows Vista Home Premium SP1
Software - None
Monitor - 22 in LCD ( I already Own)
Case - ?
Power Supply - 460watt Cooler tMaster eXtreme Power
Networking - 56K V.92 Lucent Chipset Modem
Wireless Networking- ?
Sound Card - X-Fi Extreme Audio 7.1
Speakers - (Already Own)
Floppy Drive - None
Keyboard - Logitech wireless keyboard (already own)
Mouse - Logitech wireless mouse (already own)
Card Reader - ?
Accessories 1 - None
Accessories 2 - None

Keep in mind that this is going to be for Gaming.
For the CD slots, on my old computer, i have a Compaq Presario SR1650NX, basicaly it has a Dvd Rom Reader and a Cd rom reader.
I want that kind of set up , for the case, i dont really need help on except for like the Raidmax Black Sagitta 2 (5 5.25, 5 3.5 bays) 2 Fans, Window, Front Audio/USB , i dont see any Cd Drive Slots, are they even on it Motherboards...I really dont know what i would need here.
Im not really sure about the card reader, or the wireless netoworking, since i am using an LAN cable for connecting to internet i dont think i would really need it. Sorry for the wall of text.

Thanks

Toucan Sam · 09-26-2008, 04:08 PM

Ok definately need to upgrade the video card. Look at the HD4850 or the 9800GTX+.
Either of these cards (and even the old one you already selected) need more juice from the PSU.
Look in the 650-750w range from any of these makers:
Antec Trio
Silverstone
Seasonic
Coolermaster "real pro” series only
Thermaltake "Toughpower" series only
Corsair
PC Power & Cooling

EDIT: Unless you are an audio purist, onboard sound will be more than fine. If it truly doesn't work for you, then order a sound card separately.
Also, look for SATA hard drives.

Tumbleweed36 · 09-26-2008, 04:26 PM

Listen to Toucan Sam on the power supply, he is right on the money with his suggestions with the exception of the Antec Trio and they have changed recently who makes their supplies and they are really having trouble. I would not buy the trio, but the rest of the list is superb.

Look at either the Asus P5K - e motherboard or even the Asus P5Q - Pro board. Both are relatively inexpensive as good motherboards go and both are very reliable and overclockable.

I agree also on the video card(s) he has suggested. I tend to favor the ATI 4850 at this time (although I am using an 8800gts at the moment).

You need to take a look at the Antec line of cases.

Sata hard drives are the way to go and not IDE drivers. You need to change that area and look for the biggest cache you can get for a fair price.

I know they aren't much value, but there are times a floppy is important. I would suggest you put the few dollars in and install one.

CairnisReed · 09-26-2008, 05:44 PM

How bout this?
http://www.ecollegepc.com/Custom/cus...intelgame1.htm

Tumbleweed36 · 09-26-2008, 06:32 PM

Nice list, but you will be getting a generic power supply (no name supplies are usually junk) and 500 watts is not enough to pull that graphics card. That is my opinion. The CPU and motherboard are nice choices as is the case and Sata drive. I like a lot of the build though and it should work well for you. I didn't see what the brand name of the memory was, so could not comment on what I don't know.

**wrench97** · 09-26-2008, 06:44 PM

I'm not a big fan of any of those PSU's
Why do they charge extra for the 1 year "Hassle Free Pickup and Return", if you don't pay the extra $19 do they hassle you when you have a problem???:)
How much does all this come to ?

CairnisReed · 09-27-2008, 03:10 AM

well, when i change it to a 650wat power supply and a 9800GtX graphics card, another cd drive, and choose the 2nd last cooler, and get microsoft windows vista premium.. it come to about $1053 plus shipping which is $73, I dunno, is that good?

**wrench97** · 09-27-2008, 05:30 AM

09-26-2008, 03:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
CairnisReed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP Media Center	New Computer Hey guys, So im building a new computer, i posted on another site, they recommended a different forums, i posted there, and they recommened here, so Basicaly i'm buidling a new copmuter, im using http://www.ecollegepc.com/ I Have my mind on some things but others, not so much and i was wondering if you guys could help me out Heres what i know i want for it so far. CPU -3.0 Ghz Intel Core Duo E8400 (6MB Cache,1333FThermal Heatsink/Fan -Tak Quiet TR2 M21 RX A4021 18dBA Motherboards - ? Memory - 4GB PC6400 800mhz Hard Drive - 320Gb 7200RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA300 2nd Hard Drive - None CD / DVD / CDRW 1 - ? CD / DVD / CDRW 2 - ? Video Card - Nvidia GeForce 8600GTS SLI/Crossfire - None Operating System - Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Software - None Monitor - 22 in LCD ( I already Own) Case - ? Power Supply - 460watt Cooler tMaster eXtreme Power Networking - 56K V.92 Lucent Chipset Modem Wireless Networking- ? Sound Card - X-Fi Extreme Audio 7.1 Speakers - (Already Own) Floppy Drive - None Keyboard - Logitech wireless keyboard (already own) Mouse - Logitech wireless mouse (already own) Card Reader - ? Accessories 1 - None Accessories 2 - None Keep in mind that this is going to be for Gaming. For the CD slots, on my old computer, i have a Compaq Presario SR1650NX, basicaly it has a Dvd Rom Reader and a Cd rom reader. I want that kind of set up , for the case, i dont really need help on except for like the Raidmax Black Sagitta 2 (5 5.25, 5 3.5 bays) 2 Fans, Window, Front Audio/USB , i dont see any Cd Drive Slots, are they even on it Motherboards...I really dont know what i would need here. Im not really sure about the card reader, or the wireless netoworking, since i am using an LAN cable for connecting to internet i dont think i would really need it. Sorry for the wall of text. Thanks

09-26-2008, 04:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Toucan Sam Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: charlotte, nc Posts: 153 OS: vista 64-bit SP1 My System	Re: New Computer Ok definately need to upgrade the video card. Look at the HD4850 or the 9800GTX+. Either of these cards (and even the old one you already selected) need more juice from the PSU. Look in the 650-750w range from any of these makers: Antec Trio Silverstone Seasonic Coolermaster "real pro” series only Thermaltake "Toughpower" series only Corsair PC Power & Cooling EDIT: Unless you are an audio purist, onboard sound will be more than fine. If it truly doesn't work for you, then order a sound card separately. Also, look for SATA hard drives. Last edited by Toucan Sam; 09-26-2008 at 04:10 PM.

09-26-2008, 04:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,697 OS: XP Professional	Re: New Computer Listen to Toucan Sam on the power supply, he is right on the money with his suggestions with the exception of the Antec Trio and they have changed recently who makes their supplies and they are really having trouble. I would not buy the trio, but the rest of the list is superb. Look at either the Asus P5K - e motherboard or even the Asus P5Q - Pro board. Both are relatively inexpensive as good motherboards go and both are very reliable and overclockable. I agree also on the video card(s) he has suggested. I tend to favor the ATI 4850 at this time (although I am using an 8800gts at the moment). You need to take a look at the Antec line of cases. Sata hard drives are the way to go and not IDE drivers. You need to change that area and look for the biggest cache you can get for a fair price. I know they aren't much value, but there are times a floppy is important. I would suggest you put the few dollars in and install one. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

09-26-2008, 05:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
CairnisReed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP Media Center	Re: New Computer How bout this? http://www.ecollegepc.com/Custom/cus...intelgame1.htm

09-26-2008, 06:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,697 OS: XP Professional	Re: New Computer Nice list, but you will be getting a generic power supply (no name supplies are usually junk) and 500 watts is not enough to pull that graphics card. That is my opinion. The CPU and motherboard are nice choices as is the case and Sata drive. I like a lot of the build though and it should work well for you. I didn't see what the brand name of the memory was, so could not comment on what I don't know. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

09-26-2008, 06:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,770 OS: Win7	Re: New Computer I'm not a big fan of any of those PSU's Why do they charge extra for the 1 year "Hassle Free Pickup and Return", if you don't pay the extra $19 do they hassle you when you have a problem???:) How much does all this come to ? __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-27-2008, 03:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
CairnisReed Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP Media Center	Re: New Computer well, when i change it to a 650wat power supply and a 9800GtX graphics card, another cd drive, and choose the 2nd last cooler, and get microsoft windows vista premium.. it come to about $1053 plus shipping which is $73, I dunno, is that good?

09-27-2008, 05:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,770 OS: Win7	Re: New Computer Here's a E8400 build from about a month ago with a mid range case and mid range memory but you'll get the idea. Link Price Disrcp http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128337 $84.99 p35 ds3l http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037 $169.99 E8400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 $109.99 TX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130339 $160.99 9800GTX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148309 $79.99 seagate 250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135156 $35.99 Asus DVD burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119047 $49.99 Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2KIT12864AA800 $45.99 CT2KIT25664AA800 $737.92 Total __________________ Power Supply and Selection