me new build, rate it?

ericgomes · 09-24-2008, 05:38 PM

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $129.99

ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $102.99

VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - $279.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $129.99

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - $189.99

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10664GK - $127.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $169.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - $29.99

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model iHAS220-08 - $31.99

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This machine is primarily used for gaming. I will use this computer for other things like: homework, projects, etc. I'm going to overclock too. My 6600 is going to run around 3.0-3.2ghz. This PC is gonna cost me around $1100. Does anyone have any suggestions they could give me in addition to this? Any parts? Any reviews? I want to be able to play games like COD4, GOW, CS:S, DOD:S, TF2, UT3, etc. Thanks

HawMan · 09-24-2008, 06:36 PM

Looks good, Nice build.

Remember, When using 4GB of RAM you need a 64bit Operating system.

ericgomes · 09-25-2008, 08:15 AM

I already have Vista 64bit. Thank you for the reminder though. Does anyone disagree with this build? Does anyone think I should substitute the quad core for a duo core?

yodamage · 09-25-2008, 10:55 AM

Looks like a killer build man, 9/10

yodamage · 09-25-2008, 10:56 AM

oh and by the way, i think you should go with dual core the quads get to over heated and are hard to manage. (my buddy has one) you will almost never need one, and if your only using 4 gb of ddr2 ram its not really necissary. but all in all its up to you.

ericgomes · 09-25-2008, 04:03 PM

Well, if I have applications opened in the background (anti virus, web browsers, aim, etc) won't I need a quad core? The Arctic Cooler is supposed to be an amazing heatsink. However, let me know what you guys think!

**wrench97** · 09-25-2008, 04:33 PM

If you have browsers aim, etc open in the back ground they will use and hurt you on memory usage but not CPU usage If You know anybody with a quad have them run task manager "Always on top" while playing how many cores have any significant usage?
Intel on the next gen chip is developing a technology to shut down unused cores and let one core of the quad run faster>> it's still all about clock speed given all the rest is equal.
The Arctic Freezer Pro is a good cooler for the price it cools better then stock and is quieter.

ericgomes · 09-26-2008, 10:45 AM

Alright, so I should go for the 8600 and overclock it to 4? Any other suggestions guys? Thanks :)

yodamage · 09-26-2008, 10:51 AM

hey man i personally run a 9300 and dont over clock it (because it is a laptop) it is one below the extreme, which i highly recomend for tower pcs, the extreme is easy to overclock and it stays cool. its a great processor.
P.S make shure ur duo is a centrino not a pentium 4...

**wrench97** · 09-26-2008, 12:20 PM

Centrino's are for laptops totally different Chip then goes in a tower.

**manic** · 09-26-2008, 12:28 PM

I built a machine with that case, the case looks cool, has alot of
fans, "But" The power supply is mounted at the bottom of the case.
What is right above the power supply? The video card. It gets real
hot in that area, never could figure out what antec was thinking
with that. This is just my overview,and my opinion....

**wrench97** · 09-26-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manic

I built a machine with that case, the case looks cool, has alot of
fans, "But" The power supply is mounted at the bottom of the case.
What is right above the power supply? The video card. It gets real
hot in that area, never could figure out what antec was thinking
with that. This is just my overview,and my opinion....

If the Power Supply blew air out of the case instead of into it, it would work much better.

**manic** · 09-26-2008, 01:11 PM

The build I did with the case had a 1200watt psu, there was a fan
on the bottom of the psu, there is only about 1/2 inch clearance
to draw air in,not enough room imo, there was a exhaust fan on the
back of the psu. But the heat from the top of the psu was rising
up, right up under the video card/cards. It got real hot, the gpu fans
have no chance of cooling anything because of the heat rising from the
psu...Heat rises....To each there own, I just dont like it, not a big fan
of all that heat right under the video card/s.
Did try to turn the psu upside down, didnt help much, and the
wires coming from the psu were all twisted and it was a giant cluster.
If someone brings me a box of parts, and says put it together without
my input, I will do it, even though I know there could be problems.
That build the guy had his heart set on that case, he saw a you-tube
video and he thought it was cool, it may look cool but it sure doesnt
run cool,,,lol

You may have a better shot with the antec 1200, same design, but
alot bigger, keeping the psu from the gpu, but you still have the same
problem with heat rising...
I really like the thermaltake armor, I think its the 6000, biggest case
Ive ever seen, but a real sweet case, almost toolless install.

**wrench97** · 09-26-2008, 02:04 PM

I did put the PSU in upside down in one, but it still gets hot and to add to the problem the guy puts it on the carpeted floor in a corner with all the wires/cables and the router dropped down behind it. and says it seems to run hot

**manic** · 09-26-2008, 02:22 PM

Lol, I know the type,,

The build Ive been referencing, the
guy says the machine is running to hot. Imagine if you will. The antec
900case, evga sli 790iultra super duper mobo, buggy pos, 2 evga
280 video cards, 1200watt psu, cant remember the brand, but does
real well. pci sound card cant remember the type creative, bout $300.00
card. Cram all of that in that case, its tough. I hid as much as I could
but still all of those wires, the psu is big as well, took about a hour
to try and hide all of the wire. Thing weighed about 50lbs. If you
turned it on its side, within 5 minutes you could fry a egg. Been running
like that for about 3 months suprises me. Just to much crammed in a
tight space, and the psu keeping everything toasty. He really likes the
case, I told him to spring for the antec 1200, same thing but alot
bigger. Just a matter of time it will be back here, then I charge again.
Hate to do it, but hey I warned him. He needs to dump that mobo to.
Gawd what a nightmare, but that is another story,,,,,

**grimx133** · 09-26-2008, 02:33 PM

Had no problems with the upside down mounting of the psu in my 1200. So much room behind the motherboard tray, that I ran almost all my wires there. Haven't had any heat problems at all.

**manic** · 09-26-2008, 02:44 PM

Try to cram all of that in the 900, alot smaller. If I were to go for that
case I would go with the 1200. Alot more room.

ericgomes · 09-26-2008, 03:56 PM

Thanks man, I'll change my case to the 1200. Duo or Quad? Any other opinions? I will be doing a lot of gaming too.

ericgomes · 09-26-2008, 04:57 PM

Antec 12000 tower
ASUS P5K Pro
VisionTek 4870
Corsair TX 750
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1066
Q6600
WD 1TB
Arctic Cooler 7

Any suggestions?

09-24-2008, 05:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
ericgomes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13 OS: xp sp3	me new build, rate it? Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $129.99 ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $102.99 VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - $279.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $129.99 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - $189.99 OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10664GK - $127.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $169.99 ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - $29.99 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model iHAS220-08 - $31.99 ---- This machine is primarily used for gaming. I will use this computer for other things like: homework, projects, etc. I'm going to overclock too. My 6600 is going to run around 3.0-3.2ghz. This PC is gonna cost me around $1100. Does anyone have any suggestions they could give me in addition to this? Any parts? Any reviews? I want to be able to play games like COD4, GOW, CS:S, DOD:S, TF2, UT3, etc. Thanks

09-24-2008, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
HawMan Liam Join Date: May 2006 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 2,939 OS: Win XP My System	Re: me new build, rate it? Looks good, Nice build. Remember, When using 4GB of RAM you need a 64bit Operating system. __________________ Please Consider Donating to keep the site free.

09-25-2008, 08:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
ericgomes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13 OS: xp sp3	Re: me new build, rate it? I already have Vista 64bit. Thank you for the reminder though. Does anyone disagree with this build? Does anyone think I should substitute the quad core for a duo core?

09-25-2008, 10:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
yodamage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 21 OS: vista 32bit	Re: me new build, rate it? Looks like a killer build man, 9/10

09-25-2008, 10:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
yodamage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 21 OS: vista 32bit	Re: me new build, rate it? oh and by the way, i think you should go with dual core the quads get to over heated and are hard to manage. (my buddy has one) you will almost never need one, and if your only using 4 gb of ddr2 ram its not really necissary. but all in all its up to you.

09-25-2008, 04:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
ericgomes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13 OS: xp sp3	Re: me new build, rate it? Well, if I have applications opened in the background (anti virus, web browsers, aim, etc) won't I need a quad core? The Arctic Cooler is supposed to be an amazing heatsink. However, let me know what you guys think!

09-25-2008, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,527 OS: Win7	Re: me new build, rate it? If you have browsers aim, etc open in the back ground they will use and hurt you on memory usage but not CPU usage If You know anybody with a quad have them run task manager "Always on top" while playing how many cores have any significant usage? Intel on the next gen chip is developing a technology to shut down unused cores and let one core of the quad run faster>> it's still all about clock speed given all the rest is equal. The Arctic Freezer Pro is a good cooler for the price it cools better then stock and is quieter. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-26-2008, 10:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
ericgomes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13 OS: xp sp3	Re: me new build, rate it? Alright, so I should go for the 8600 and overclock it to 4? Any other suggestions guys? Thanks :)

09-26-2008, 10:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
yodamage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 21 OS: vista 32bit	Re: me new build, rate it? hey man i personally run a 9300 and dont over clock it (because it is a laptop) it is one below the extreme, which i highly recomend for tower pcs, the extreme is easy to overclock and it stays cool. its a great processor. P.S make shure ur duo is a centrino not a pentium 4...

09-26-2008, 12:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,527 OS: Win7	Re: me new build, rate it? Centrino's are for laptops totally different Chip then goes in a tower. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-26-2008, 12:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 5,241 OS: xp	Re: me new build, rate it? I built a machine with that case, the case looks cool, has alot of fans, "But" The power supply is mounted at the bottom of the case. What is right above the power supply? The video card. It gets real hot in that area, never could figure out what antec was thinking with that. This is just my overview,and my opinion.... __________________

09-26-2008, 01:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 5,241 OS: xp	Re: me new build, rate it? The build I did with the case had a 1200watt psu, there was a fan on the bottom of the psu, there is only about 1/2 inch clearance to draw air in,not enough room imo, there was a exhaust fan on the back of the psu. But the heat from the top of the psu was rising up, right up under the video card/cards. It got real hot, the gpu fans have no chance of cooling anything because of the heat rising from the psu...Heat rises....To each there own, I just dont like it, not a big fan of all that heat right under the video card/s. Did try to turn the psu upside down, didnt help much, and the wires coming from the psu were all twisted and it was a giant cluster. If someone brings me a box of parts, and says put it together without my input, I will do it, even though I know there could be problems. That build the guy had his heart set on that case, he saw a you-tube video and he thought it was cool, it may look cool but it sure doesnt run cool,,,lol You may have a better shot with the antec 1200, same design, but alot bigger, keeping the psu from the gpu, but you still have the same problem with heat rising... I really like the thermaltake armor, I think its the 6000, biggest case Ive ever seen, but a real sweet case, almost toolless install. __________________ Last edited by manic; 09-26-2008 at 01:26 PM.

09-26-2008, 02:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,527 OS: Win7	Re: me new build, rate it? I did put the PSU in upside down in one, but it still gets hot and to add to the problem the guy puts it on the carpeted floor in a corner with all the wires/cables and the router dropped down behind it. and says it seems to run hot __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-26-2008, 02:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 5,241 OS: xp	Re: me new build, rate it? Lol, I know the type,, The build Ive been referencing, the guy says the machine is running to hot. Imagine if you will. The antec 900case, evga sli 790iultra super duper mobo, buggy pos, 2 evga 280 video cards, 1200watt psu, cant remember the brand, but does real well. pci sound card cant remember the type creative, bout $300.00 card. Cram all of that in that case, its tough. I hid as much as I could but still all of those wires, the psu is big as well, took about a hour to try and hide all of the wire. Thing weighed about 50lbs. If you turned it on its side, within 5 minutes you could fry a egg. Been running like that for about 3 months suprises me. Just to much crammed in a tight space, and the psu keeping everything toasty. He really likes the case, I told him to spring for the antec 1200, same thing but alot bigger. Just a matter of time it will be back here, then I charge again. Hate to do it, but hey I warned him. He needs to dump that mobo to. Gawd what a nightmare, but that is another story,,,,, __________________

09-26-2008, 02:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
grimx133 Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 3,140 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2, windows 7 beta My System	Re: me new build, rate it? Had no problems with the upside down mounting of the psu in my 1200. So much room behind the motherboard tray, that I ran almost all my wires there. Haven't had any heat problems at all.

09-26-2008, 02:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 5,241 OS: xp	Re: me new build, rate it? Try to cram all of that in the 900, alot smaller. If I were to go for that case I would go with the 1200. Alot more room. __________________

09-26-2008, 03:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
ericgomes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13 OS: xp sp3	Re: me new build, rate it? Thanks man, I'll change my case to the 1200. Duo or Quad? Any other opinions? I will be doing a lot of gaming too.

09-26-2008, 04:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
ericgomes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13 OS: xp sp3	Re: me new build, rate it? Antec 12000 tower ASUS P5K Pro VisionTek 4870 Corsair TX 750 OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1066 Q6600 WD 1TB Arctic Cooler 7 Any suggestions?