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Old 08-28-2008, 09:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T

Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Acer P243WAid Black-Silver 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support

SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Cabling Active PFC Power Supply

Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speaker

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD


Final Price (Tax and Shipping included): $2471


How's that? Everything compatible and good and all? My primary focus is gaming.

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Old 08-28-2008, 11:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats gonna be a beast of a build :)
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Probably one good cooler for this E8500 ? - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185046


One good sound card will be suitable to this system ? - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102005

And finaly better memory like this (if you prefer G.Skill) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231194

Edit: And for a top configuration RAID 0 is recommend ?

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Old 08-29-2008, 04:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That Memory is a little off I don't see PC1000 listed on the QVL at all
I think I would look a Corsair for the Memory.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...page%20Formula

The QVL is under Manuals at the bottom of the list.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So the stock heatsink and fan that come with the E8500 aren't good enough?

The Asus Rampage Formula comes with a SupremeFX II soundcard.

I'll take your advice on the memory.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I would go with the Thermalright ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler


the E8600 is capable of hitting 4.0ghz on stock cpu voltages with a good quality air cooler ......... I wouldnt pass that up .........

and YES your onboard sound will be plenty !
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Do I really need the Thermalright ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler? My case comes with 5 fans, and is the stock cooler not good enough?

Is the E8600 worth the extra $100 over the E8500?

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Old 08-29-2008, 07:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would rather have the E8600 and single GPU like the 4870

over the


E8500 and the ATI 4870 X2




you can get by with the stock cooler until you are ready to get serious about overclocking
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Can I ask why?

By the way I'm not interested in SERIOUS overclocking.

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Old 08-29-2008, 10:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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wow - this thing will be a monster!
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's the general idea. :)


I can't decide, is the E8600 worth the extra $100 over the E8500?

I've been going over it, and which is the best for gaming?

E8600, E8500, Q9550, Q6600?


The Q6600 and the E8500 are both the same price on Newegg, so in that regard it's just a matter of which is superior, for gaming I mean.

The E8600 is a $100 more than those two, and the Q9550 $50 more than that, and I can't decide

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Re: Final Computer Build: Please Rate/Advise

E8600 is the best for gaming but its price is unjustifiable high. With elementary clock with 8500 you can reach ~170 Mhz difference. So, if you do not interesting of overclocking standart box will be enough. But why you are on way to buy very expensive, top-clocking model mainbord ??

Q9550/6600 only if you working with video/sound processing on pro level. Creative will give you match better sound - the choice is yours, finally we are talking for a top-end configuration, I hope :)
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E8600 is the best for gaming but its price is unjustifiable high. With elementary clock with 8500 you can reach ~170 Mhz difference. So, if you do not interesting of overclocking standart box will be enough. But why you are on way to buy very expensive, top-clocking model mainbord ??

Q9550/6600 only if you working with video/sound processing on pro level. Creative will give you match better sound - the choice is yours, finally we are talking for a top-end configuration, I hope :)



KMVASILEV is sooooo correct

if you are not into super above average overclocking ....... then E8500 will be the choice

NOT the Q6600 ! Games dont use four threads simulatanously yet ...... they barely use TWO ...... so with any quad core ..... two of your cores will be sound asleep while you game

I know several fellas that had the Q6600 that are now running E8400 to get more usuable speed in gaming

and why the overpriced motherboard if you want to run a stock cooler ?????

The Asus P5Q-E or one from that family would make sooooo much more sense


if you live in the US ....... at mwave.com / click on refurbished / click on motherboards

they have the Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS4 for $100.00 !! thats a steal

and their is an X48 motherboard in there too for $120.00
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Exactly how long before games make use of quad cores?


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and why the overpriced motherboard if you want to run a stock cooler ?????

The Asus P5Q-E or one from that family would make sooooo much more sense
Oh I won't, I'll buy another cooler.


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But why you are on way to buy very expensive, top-clocking model mainbord ??
Because I'll probably overclock and crossfire, and it's still an awesome motherboard.

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I've come to a conclusion. I'll buy the E8500. It's good enough to give me good gaming performance and cheap enough that when, say, Nehelam comes out or quads become more useful, it can be easilly replaced. How's that?
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
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So:

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ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T

Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Acer P243WAid Black-Silver 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support

HIS Hightech H487X2F2GP Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speaker

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler

Final Price: $2340
How's that? It also appears I'm $100 under budget. =)

Anything else I should get or get better of?

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looks very good ....... I think you will be very happy with that rig !!
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