Need advice on a new build

keaton85 · 08-16-2008, 08:18 PM

I need some advice... I've planned out the new system for the most part, I just wanted to know if the parts seem good.

CPU:
Athlon 64 X2 6000+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773

Motherboard:
Biostar Tforce TA780G M2+ AM2+/AM2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813138105R

Memory:
G-Skill DDR2-800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098

My basic plan is this:
I am currently running a Biostar Tforce4 sli amd, athlon 64 3500+, geforce 7900gs, 1GB DDR-400 memory. I want to use the case I already have, pull out and sell the motherboard, proc and memory and 120GB ATA drive. I'll reuse the video card and put in an sata drive b/c the new mobo only supports two ide devices(which will be the dvd-rw and the other 200GB IDE drive). If this works out well, I plan to upgrade to an 8 or 9 series geforce next month. I also made sure to get a board that supports am2+ so that I could maybe put in a phenom when they come down in price. Is this a good idea, or is it totally crazy? I'm a fairly big gamer, so I want to be able to run games at fairly high settings. I also got windows vista business free from my school, so I want to be able to run that with aero, 3d effects, etc.

Thanks in advance.

zyntrax · 08-18-2008, 05:15 AM

Well if you don't plan on updating your computer in the future, then i would say that the parts u got there is enough for today's gaming anyway. But if you are planning to upgrade in the future, i would recommend to get a socket 775 and an Intel CPU. Because AMD is behind Intel in development.

keaton85 · 08-23-2008, 04:28 PM

Well now I am comparing an AMD 6000+ at $120 and an intel E8400 at $170. Is the Intel really worth 50 more dollars in the long run?

**wrench97** · 08-23-2008, 05:30 PM

Yes, by the way your motherboard selection is shown as deactivated, What was the MB price?

wayliff · 08-23-2008, 05:34 PM

Look at the AMD x2 5400+ BE instead - unlocked multiplier, cheaper and you can match the clock of that 6000+. The main difference between this two is the L2 cache...the 6000+ has x2 1MB vs x2 512kb of the 5400+ - not to be too concerned about unless you do heavy database work or other cache 'needy' task.

And the 6000+ is manufactured on 90nm waffers vs 65nm of the 5400+.

I would choose the 5400+ and save some money ... pushing it to match the 6000+ on air should be no problem.

Edit:
I forgot that you need to buy your own cooler for the AMD BEs. So you may not be saving money but the 65nm processor should run cooler, I believe.

08-16-2008, 08:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
keaton85 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2 OS: XP Pro SP3 32-bit	Need advice on a new build I need some advice... I've planned out the new system for the most part, I just wanted to know if the parts seem good. CPU: Athlon 64 X2 6000+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773 Motherboard: Biostar Tforce TA780G M2+ AM2+/AM2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813138105R Memory: G-Skill DDR2-800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098 My basic plan is this: I am currently running a Biostar Tforce4 sli amd, athlon 64 3500+, geforce 7900gs, 1GB DDR-400 memory. I want to use the case I already have, pull out and sell the motherboard, proc and memory and 120GB ATA drive. I'll reuse the video card and put in an sata drive b/c the new mobo only supports two ide devices(which will be the dvd-rw and the other 200GB IDE drive). If this works out well, I plan to upgrade to an 8 or 9 series geforce next month. I also made sure to get a board that supports am2+ so that I could maybe put in a phenom when they come down in price. Is this a good idea, or is it totally crazy? I'm a fairly big gamer, so I want to be able to run games at fairly high settings. I also got windows vista business free from my school, so I want to be able to run that with aero, 3d effects, etc. Thanks in advance. Last edited by keaton85; 08-16-2008 at 08:26 PM.

08-18-2008, 05:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
zyntrax Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 43 OS: XP Pro/Vista Ultimate/Ubuntu/Server 2003/Ubuntu Server	Re: Need advice on a new build Well if you don't plan on updating your computer in the future, then i would say that the parts u got there is enough for today's gaming anyway. But if you are planning to upgrade in the future, i would recommend to get a socket 775 and an Intel CPU. Because AMD is behind Intel in development.

08-23-2008, 04:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
keaton85 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2 OS: XP Pro SP3 32-bit	Re: Need advice on a new build Well now I am comparing an AMD 6000+ at $120 and an intel E8400 at $170. Is the Intel really worth 50 more dollars in the long run?

08-23-2008, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,442 OS: Win7	Re: Need advice on a new build Yes, by the way your motherboard selection is shown as deactivated, What was the MB price? __________________ Power Supply and Selection

08-23-2008, 05:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
wayliff Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 125 OS: Win7 Ultimate x64	Re: Need advice on a new build Look at the AMD x2 5400+ BE instead - unlocked multiplier, cheaper and you can match the clock of that 6000+. The main difference between this two is the L2 cache...the 6000+ has x2 1MB vs x2 512kb of the 5400+ - not to be too concerned about unless you do heavy database work or other cache 'needy' task. And the 6000+ is manufactured on 90nm waffers vs 65nm of the 5400+. I would choose the 5400+ and save some money ... pushing it to match the 6000+ on air should be no problem. Edit: I forgot that you need to buy your own cooler for the AMD BEs. So you may not be saving money but the 65nm processor should run cooler, I believe. Last edited by wayliff; 08-23-2008 at 05:40 PM.