Problem with this Build...?

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 04:53 PM

I could use some feedback if there is anything unnecessary or necessary that I am missing from my build (Don't say cables =P) Also I need to know if everything is compatible with each other so I don't run in to any problems. Thank you for your time.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz, 1333FSB (Dual Core) 6000K
Cooler Master Aquagate S1 Liquid cooling system
Gigabyte X38 DS4 , DDR2, 1600FSB, X-Fire PCI Express,1Gb LAN, iEEE
4GB (4x1GB) PC6400 DDR2 800 Dual Channel
GeForce 8600GT 1GB PCI EXpress 16X dual head, tv out
500.0GB Hitachi/ IBM 7200RPM SATA2, UDMA 300 8m cache
Hard Drive Cooling Fan Aluminum Internal
Samsung LightScribe 20x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW (black) [I heard that this was all I needed to read/write CD's and DVD's?]
3.5" floppy disk - 12 in 1 media card reader combo Black (dual bay)
AC 97 3D Full Duplex sound card (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
APEVIA X-Navigator Black Aluminum,Window, front USB,iEEE,Temp control
Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
Nspire X-extreme 750W ATX Power Supply, SLI ready
Logitech S-200 2.1 3-Piece Subwoofer System Black [Not sure about this either because I heard I can run my 5.1 surround sound through the PC?]
Microsoft Windows XP Professional CD
Microsoft Office 2007 Home & Student edition

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 04:56 PM

Another point I should make is that I am going to be connecting the video through a 37" Vizio HDTV. What cables/connectors am I going to need for that?

John88Z · 08-14-2008, 04:59 PM

An 8600gt with 1gb of ram? Thats ddr2 right? If thats the case the card will never use such an amount of memory. What sub manufacturer is the card? Everything else looks great.

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John88Z

An 8600gt with 1gb of ram? Thats ddr2 right? If thats the case the card will never use such an amount of memory. What sub manufacturer is the card? Everything else looks great.

What do you mean and why not?

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John88Z

What sub manufacturer is the card?

GeForce? Is that what your asking?

John88Z · 08-14-2008, 05:49 PM

By sub manufacturer i mean xfx, bfg, evga and so on. Having a gig of ram on a ddr2 is a marketing scam there is no way the cards gpu can use all of that ram on the screen.

Houndog777 · 08-14-2008, 06:07 PM

Hi,
I'd say your spec doesn't need liquid cooling
OR
The 4GB of RAM (for XP to utilise more than 3GB you need to use the 3GB Switch. 2GB is plenty unless you are video editing etc)
OR
The Hard Drive Cooling Fan (All you need is adequate, quality case fans. Intake at the front and exhaust at the rear)
AND
You seem to have 2 sound cards

What I would suggest you do have, is a high-end power supply like Corsair etc.
Scroll down this linked page and you'll find recommendations for different systems...
Power Supply Information and Selection

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 06:15 PM

I though XP could use up to 3.5Gigabites of RAM. What is the switch you are talking about? Why wouldn't this build need liquid cooling? I'd rather be safe than sorry, I'm just wondering as to what you think and *why*.

Thanks

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 06:18 PM

Also what are the 2 sound cards you see there?

Houndog777 · 08-14-2008, 06:28 PM

Hi, sorry was reading the Logitech aspeakers as a sound card.......doh!

Liquid cooling is ok I suppose on a Gaming-System with an "extreme" CPU that's overclocked and high-end video cards in SLI or Crossfire, but not for a Power-Desktop build like you have.

The 3GB Switch?..............
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...AE/PAEmem.mspx

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...h&start=0&sa=N

Necrosphere9 · 08-14-2008, 06:46 PM

Ok, well I am going to be using this for constant gaming up to 8 hours a time on some days. Also Video Editing is actually one of my hobbies =P, but right now I'm very limited as I'm using a very bad laptop.

Could you explain to me what SLI or Crossfire is? Thanks

Another thing is, do you know if a 5.1 surround system can work with my Build? Is there anything special that I need?

Houndog777 · 08-14-2008, 09:18 PM

Hi,
SLI from nVidia and Crossfire from ATI, is when you have two video cards connected to one another to boost your graphics.
The Gigabyte X38 DS4 is Crossfire enabled, so you'd be better with an ATI video card, in case you want to go Crossfire in the future.

As for Audio, I'm pretty sure your motherboard is suitable for 5.1 surround, in fact....
"The ALC889A provides support for 7.1 sound playback, plus 2 channels of independent stereo output (multiple streaming) through the front panel stereo."

http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Mo...ProductID=2736

I can't stress enough to you the importance of a quality power supply. Put simply, it's the engine of your rig and you should get the best that you can afford. Especially if you're an avid gamer and video editor.

**Jtsou** · 08-14-2008, 09:23 PM

I would much rather get an 8800GT 512MB instead of the 8600 1gb, thats if you are stuck on nVidia. Houndog's recommendation is great also.

Mcninjaguy · 08-14-2008, 09:45 PM

the 4850 ATI card is usually around $200 and will be able to handle all your graphic card needs for a while! Its better than the 8800's series graphic cards and is more suited to your motherboard

**Jtsou** · 08-14-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy

the 4850 ATI card is usually around $200 and will be able to handle all your graphic card needs for a while! Its better than the 8800's series graphic cards and is more suited to your motherboard

It depends on the application.

Mcninjaguy · 08-14-2008, 10:23 PM

so enlighten me. whats better for what?

**Jtsou** · 08-14-2008, 10:27 PM

GeForce for Gaming, Radeon for Vid editing, HD DVD, BLU-RAY playback. I mean both will work fine for either, but those are the best uses. Also that radeon isn't $50 better than the 8800gt by no means, even if it were better.

Necrosphere9 · 08-15-2008, 12:05 AM

Thanks a lot guys

08-14-2008, 04:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Necrosphere9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP SP3	Problem with this Build...? I could use some feedback if there is anything unnecessary or necessary that I am missing from my build (Don't say cables =P) Also I need to know if everything is compatible with each other so I don't run in to any problems. Thank you for your time. Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz, 1333FSB (Dual Core) 6000K Cooler Master Aquagate S1 Liquid cooling system Gigabyte X38 DS4 , DDR2, 1600FSB, X-Fire PCI Express,1Gb LAN, iEEE 4GB (4x1GB) PC6400 DDR2 800 Dual Channel GeForce 8600GT 1GB PCI EXpress 16X dual head, tv out 500.0GB Hitachi/ IBM 7200RPM SATA2, UDMA 300 8m cache Hard Drive Cooling Fan Aluminum Internal Samsung LightScribe 20x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW (black) [I heard that this was all I needed to read/write CD's and DVD's?] 3.5" floppy disk - 12 in 1 media card reader combo Black (dual bay) AC 97 3D Full Duplex sound card (onboard) Ethernet network adapter (onboard) APEVIA X-Navigator Black Aluminum,Window, front USB,iEEE,Temp control Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans) Nspire X-extreme 750W ATX Power Supply, SLI ready Logitech S-200 2.1 3-Piece Subwoofer System Black [Not sure about this either because I heard I can run my 5.1 surround sound through the PC?] Microsoft Windows XP Professional CD Microsoft Office 2007 Home & Student edition

08-14-2008, 04:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Necrosphere9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP SP3	Re: Problem with this Build...? Another point I should make is that I am going to be connecting the video through a 37" Vizio HDTV. What cables/connectors am I going to need for that?

08-14-2008, 04:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
John88Z Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 178 OS: Win7 64 bit My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? An 8600gt with 1gb of ram? Thats ddr2 right? If thats the case the card will never use such an amount of memory. What sub manufacturer is the card? Everything else looks great.

08-14-2008, 05:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
John88Z Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 178 OS: Win7 64 bit My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? By sub manufacturer i mean xfx, bfg, evga and so on. Having a gig of ram on a ddr2 is a marketing scam there is no way the cards gpu can use all of that ram on the screen.

08-14-2008, 06:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Houndog777 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 2,683 OS: XPpro sp3 My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? Hi, I'd say your spec doesn't need liquid cooling OR The 4GB of RAM (for XP to utilise more than 3GB you need to use the 3GB Switch. 2GB is plenty unless you are video editing etc) OR The Hard Drive Cooling Fan (All you need is adequate, quality case fans. Intake at the front and exhaust at the rear) AND You seem to have 2 sound cards What I would suggest you do have, is a high-end power supply like Corsair etc. Scroll down this linked page and you'll find recommendations for different systems... Power Supply Information and Selection

08-14-2008, 06:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Necrosphere9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP SP3	Re: Problem with this Build...? I though XP could use up to 3.5Gigabites of RAM. What is the switch you are talking about? Why wouldn't this build need liquid cooling? I'd rather be safe than sorry, I'm just wondering as to what you think and why. Thanks

08-14-2008, 06:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Necrosphere9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP SP3	Re: Problem with this Build...? Also what are the 2 sound cards you see there?

08-14-2008, 06:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Houndog777 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 2,683 OS: XPpro sp3 My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? Hi, sorry was reading the Logitech aspeakers as a sound card.......doh! Liquid cooling is ok I suppose on a Gaming-System with an "extreme" CPU that's overclocked and high-end video cards in SLI or Crossfire, but not for a Power-Desktop build like you have. The 3GB Switch?.............. http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...AE/PAEmem.mspx http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...h&start=0&sa=N

08-14-2008, 06:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
Necrosphere9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP SP3	Re: Problem with this Build...? Ok, well I am going to be using this for constant gaming up to 8 hours a time on some days. Also Video Editing is actually one of my hobbies =P, but right now I'm very limited as I'm using a very bad laptop. Could you explain to me what SLI or Crossfire is? Thanks Another thing is, do you know if a 5.1 surround system can work with my Build? Is there anything special that I need?

08-14-2008, 09:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Houndog777 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 2,683 OS: XPpro sp3 My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? Hi, SLI from nVidia and Crossfire from ATI, is when you have two video cards connected to one another to boost your graphics. The Gigabyte X38 DS4 is Crossfire enabled, so you'd be better with an ATI video card, in case you want to go Crossfire in the future. As for Audio, I'm pretty sure your motherboard is suitable for 5.1 surround, in fact.... "The ALC889A provides support for 7.1 sound playback, plus 2 channels of independent stereo output (multiple streaming) through the front panel stereo." http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Mo...ProductID=2736 I can't stress enough to you the importance of a quality power supply. Put simply, it's the engine of your rig and you should get the best that you can afford. Especially if you're an avid gamer and video editor.

08-14-2008, 09:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jtsou Hardware Specialist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisburg, NC Posts: 1,214 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1 My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? I would much rather get an 8800GT 512MB instead of the 8600 1gb, thats if you are stuck on nVidia. Houndog's recommendation is great also. __________________ CPU-Z-----GPU-Z-----CoreTemp-----Speedfan

08-14-2008, 09:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Problem with this Build...? the 4850 ATI card is usually around $200 and will be able to handle all your graphic card needs for a while! Its better than the 8800's series graphic cards and is more suited to your motherboard

08-14-2008, 10:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Problem with this Build...? so enlighten me. whats better for what?

08-14-2008, 10:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jtsou Hardware Specialist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisburg, NC Posts: 1,214 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1 My System	Re: Problem with this Build...? GeForce for Gaming, Radeon for Vid editing, HD DVD, BLU-RAY playback. I mean both will work fine for either, but those are the best uses. Also that radeon isn't $50 better than the 8800gt by no means, even if it were better. __________________ CPU-Z-----GPU-Z-----CoreTemp-----Speedfan Last edited by Jtsou; 08-14-2008 at 10:29 PM.

08-15-2008, 12:05 AM	#18 (permalink)
Necrosphere9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 12 OS: Windows XP SP3	Re: Problem with this Build...? Thanks a lot guys