Computer support

eaglefalk · 05-23-2008, 06:17 AM

I want to know if these use them together.

MSI P35 Neo-F
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 1.9V or Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P 2.2V
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz
Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB
HIS Radeon HD 3650 512MB GDDR3
Corsair Powersupply 750W Black

Without any problems

eaglefalk · 05-23-2008, 06:17 AM

I mean use these together

**Kalim** · 05-23-2008, 06:28 AM

It looks fine.. apart from the motherboard.

I'd use another one, P35, but better quality.

Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by this bolded bit:

"Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 1.9V or Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P 2.2V "

Are you saying you want to run 4x1GB sticks where 2x are Corsair and 2x are Crucial?

If so, I really don't recommend that; you could be in for some major incompatibility problems as they have very different specifications.

eaglefalk · 05-23-2008, 09:52 AM

i mean one of them. What msi board do you recomend me to use with the parts. do you know anything about the MSI P45 Platinum.

eaglefalk · 05-23-2008, 09:54 AM

or MSI P45 NEO-F.

**Kalim** · 05-23-2008, 07:55 PM

OK. Both RAM are good.

Stick with P35 without a doubt. It's a proven ace. P45... not showing good signs.

Does the board have to be MSI?

Try Gigabyte P35 DS3R or P35 DS4 - excellent motherboards!
DS4 is better than DS3R...

OR

Abit IP35 Pro

With these 3 boards, you just can't go wrong

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 03:10 AM

ok then i should try the Gigabyte P35 DS4 or DS3

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 03:37 AM

which board should i go for. Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, P35, S-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DES, 2xPCI-Ex16.
Gigabyte GA-EX38-DS4, X38, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16.
Can i use DDR2 and GDDR video cards on the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4.

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 04:22 AM

I found many boards from Gigabyte. But which is the best to overclock and gaming.
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5, X48, Socket-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16.
Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6, X48, Socket-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16.
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4, X48, Socket-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16.
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, P35, S-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DES, 2xPCI-Ex16. Is it PCI-E 2.0 or not

**Kalim** · 05-24-2008, 08:34 AM

Hold on.

You're gaming?
Which games do you play?
HD 3650 is not exactly any good with most modern games.

Also, which country do you reside in?
It's helpful because prices differ from one nation to another and recommendations are obviously going to be based on pricing.

X48 chipset is a total flop! X38 is an improvement only in the high-end, i.e. DICE/LN2 and if you want CrossFire. P35 is what you want, best chipset so far.

Intel common chipsets: P35, P45, X38, X48

1) Do you really want an excellent CPU?

How much are you paying for E6850? The Intel Wolfdale E8400 3.0GHz 45nm costs less, performs better and oveclocks more!

2) The Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R is much better value for money than the GA-EP35-DS4, same performance.
The MSI Platinum P35 is better than the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R and equal to the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4

So, let me know the country first and I'll checkout the prices to see which one suits you better.

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 09:09 AM

okey but i found a 9600gt from FXF. I pay 1545 with swedish money.
Is this better for games or an original pc.
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5, PCI-E 16x 2.0, Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC9600 1024MB CL5, Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz, Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB, XFX GeForce 9600GT 700M 512MB GDDR3 and Corsair Powersupply 650W Black.

I want to play new games. I mean all new games but i only play few new and old games

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 09:12 AM

I forget to write its from Sweden

**Kalim** · 05-24-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglefalk

okey but i found a 9600gt from FXF. I pay 1545 with swedish money.
Is this better for games or an original pc.
Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5, PCI-E 16x 2.0, Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC9600 1024MB CL5, Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz, Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB, XFX GeForce 9600GT 700M 512MB GDDR3 and Corsair Powersupply 650W Black.

Motherboard = no good, P35 is better
Memory = waste of money
CPU = get the E8400
GFX = much much better

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 12:22 PM

okey but do you mean these that is better.
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R, P35, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, ICH9R, DES, PCI-Ex16 and Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, P35, S-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DES, 2xPCI-Ex16.

**Kalim** · 05-24-2008, 01:03 PM

Hi

Yes, Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R and Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 are better.
Not the "E" versions though.

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 02:29 PM

Is this better.
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, Intel Core™ 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz, Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB, XFX GeForce 9600GT 700M 512MB GDDR3 and Corsair Powersupply 650W Black but which is the best memory for this board that i can use.
Does the board supports PCI-E 16x 2.0.

**Kalim** · 05-24-2008, 03:31 PM

Get any one of these RAM, should be perfectly fine and will overclock good:

Crucial Ballistix BL2KIT12864AA1065 (2x1GB PC2-8500)
Buffalo Firestix FSX1066D2C-1G (2x1GB PC2-8500)

Motherboard: like I said, its good but not better than Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 or Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4

The older boards did not support PCIe 2.0 but there is no gain from it for you, so no point in it. Only highest end GFX gain a little from it.

eaglefalk · 05-24-2008, 04:23 PM

is there any better boards that support PCI-E 16x 2.0.
Which board is the best for games off them all.

eaglefalk · 05-25-2008, 04:05 AM

I mean everything and is Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 not Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 that you mean

eaglefalk · 05-25-2008, 07:29 AM

is this a better board. Asus P5E3 Deluxe/WIFI-AP and i checked on silentpcreview.com and the have wrote.

5 Star Review. Asus A Winner, Again
Strengths: Fabulous MB, fast, stable, tons of features, geared to future computing
Weaknesses: Price, price, price, but "you get what you pay for"
Summary: I have used Asus (and some other) motherboards for several years now and this is the best by far I have ever experienced. You get all kinds of features and performance, but at a fairly steep price.

The P5E3 can handle whatever you throw at it. Since it is DDR3 it is fast. But right now this memory is also very expensive. The board is very stable even with overclocking (which the BIOS provides numerous options for). You can even surf the internet or connect through Skype via a BIOS mini OS on bootup, prior to going into the main OS.

It has plenty of "extras" such as 2 wired and wireless n networks, multiple internal/external SATA/Firewire/USB ports, 7.1 HD audio, Crossfire etc.

Computer magazines use this board for testing components when they come out since it is so stable.

The only thing I had to do was update the BIOS for the new Intel CPUs prior to use, otherwise it was easy to set up.

If you can afford it, this has got to be one of the best boards on the market right now and for the near future.

05-23-2008, 06:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Computer support I want to know if these use them together. MSI P35 Neo-F Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 1.9V or Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P 2.2V Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB HIS Radeon HD 3650 512MB GDDR3 Corsair Powersupply 750W Black Without any problems

05-23-2008, 06:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support I mean use these together

05-23-2008, 06:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,642 OS: Many	Re: Computer support It looks fine.. apart from the motherboard. I'd use another one, P35, but better quality. Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by this bolded bit: "Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 1.9V or Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 2048MB CL4 ,Kit w/two BallistiX 1024MB's, E.P.P 2.2V " Are you saying you want to run 4x1GB sticks where 2x are Corsair and 2x are Crucial? If so, I really don't recommend that; you could be in for some major incompatibility problems as they have very different specifications.

05-23-2008, 09:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support i mean one of them. What msi board do you recomend me to use with the parts. do you know anything about the MSI P45 Platinum.

05-23-2008, 09:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support or MSI P45 NEO-F.

05-23-2008, 07:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,642 OS: Many	Re: Computer support OK. Both RAM are good. Stick with P35 without a doubt. It's a proven ace. P45... not showing good signs. Does the board have to be MSI? Try Gigabyte P35 DS3R or P35 DS4 - excellent motherboards! DS4 is better than DS3R... OR Abit IP35 Pro With these 3 boards, you just can't go wrong

05-24-2008, 03:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support ok then i should try the Gigabyte P35 DS4 or DS3

05-24-2008, 03:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support which board should i go for. Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, P35, S-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DES, 2xPCI-Ex16. Gigabyte GA-EX38-DS4, X38, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16. Can i use DDR2 and GDDR video cards on the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4.

05-24-2008, 04:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support I found many boards from Gigabyte. But which is the best to overclock and gaming. Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5, X48, Socket-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16. Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6, X48, Socket-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16. Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4, X48, Socket-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)x16. Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, P35, S-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DES, 2xPCI-Ex16. Is it PCI-E 2.0 or not

05-24-2008, 08:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,642 OS: Many	Re: Computer support Hold on. You're gaming? Which games do you play? HD 3650 is not exactly any good with most modern games. Also, which country do you reside in? It's helpful because prices differ from one nation to another and recommendations are obviously going to be based on pricing. X48 chipset is a total flop! X38 is an improvement only in the high-end, i.e. DICE/LN2 and if you want CrossFire. P35 is what you want, best chipset so far. Intel common chipsets: P35, P45, X38, X48 1) Do you really want an *excellent* CPU? How much are you paying for E6850? The Intel Wolfdale E8400 3.0GHz 45nm costs less, performs better and oveclocks more! 2) The Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R is much better value for money than the GA-EP35-DS4, same performance. The MSI Platinum P35 is better than the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R and equal to the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 So, let me know the country first and I'll checkout the prices to see which one suits you better.

05-24-2008, 09:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support okey but i found a 9600gt from FXF. I pay 1545 with swedish money. Is this better for games or an original pc. Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5, PCI-E 16x 2.0, Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC9600 1024MB CL5, Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz, Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB, XFX GeForce 9600GT 700M 512MB GDDR3 and Corsair Powersupply 650W Black. I want to play new games. I mean all new games but i only play few new and old games

05-24-2008, 09:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support I forget to write its from Sweden

05-24-2008, 12:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support okey but do you mean these that is better. Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R, P35, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, ICH9R, DES, PCI-Ex16 and Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, P35, S-775, ATX, Silent Pipe, DES, 2xPCI-Ex16.

05-24-2008, 01:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,642 OS: Many	Re: Computer support Hi Yes, Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R and Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 are better. Not the "E" versions though.

05-24-2008, 02:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support Is this better. Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4, Intel Core™ 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz, Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB, XFX GeForce 9600GT 700M 512MB GDDR3 and Corsair Powersupply 650W Black but which is the best memory for this board that i can use. Does the board supports PCI-E 16x 2.0.

05-24-2008, 03:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,642 OS: Many	Re: Computer support Get any one of these RAM, should be perfectly fine and will overclock good: Crucial Ballistix BL2KIT12864AA1065 (2x1GB PC2-8500) Buffalo Firestix FSX1066D2C-1G (2x1GB PC2-8500) Motherboard: like I said, its good but not better than Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 or Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 The older boards did not support PCIe 2.0 but there is no gain from it for you, so no point in it. Only highest end GFX gain a little from it.

05-24-2008, 04:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support is there any better boards that support PCI-E 16x 2.0. Which board is the best for games off them all.

05-25-2008, 04:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support I mean everything and is Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 not Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 that you mean

05-25-2008, 07:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
eaglefalk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Computer support is this a better board. Asus P5E3 Deluxe/WIFI-AP and i checked on silentpcreview.com and the have wrote. 5 Star Review. Asus A Winner, Again Strengths: Fabulous MB, fast, stable, tons of features, geared to future computing Weaknesses: Price, price, price, but "you get what you pay for" Summary: I have used Asus (and some other) motherboards for several years now and this is the best by far I have ever experienced. You get all kinds of features and performance, but at a fairly steep price. The P5E3 can handle whatever you throw at it. Since it is DDR3 it is fast. But right now this memory is also very expensive. The board is very stable even with overclocking (which the BIOS provides numerous options for). You can even surf the internet or connect through Skype via a BIOS mini OS on bootup, prior to going into the main OS. It has plenty of "extras" such as 2 wired and wireless n networks, multiple internal/external SATA/Firewire/USB ports, 7.1 HD audio, Crossfire etc. Computer magazines use this board for testing components when they come out since it is so stable. The only thing I had to do was update the BIOS for the new Intel CPUs prior to use, otherwise it was easy to set up. If you can afford it, this has got to be one of the best boards on the market right now and for the near future.