[SOLVED] Partial newbuild

Rolyin · 03-30-2008, 01:30 PM

Hi, I was wondering if someone could tell em if all these parts would work together.

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/135664
Cooling: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/105995
RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/116755
MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/113844
Graphics: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/129802

I already hace a PSU that came with my HP pavillion, I am also using that as the case and the fans that came with it, I also have an IDE harddrive and DVD drive so will this all work?

Also for the CPU cooling would I need some of that paste stuff? Could someone please reply asap as I would like to build this PC soon.
Thanks :D

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 01:50 PM

Rolyin, I hate to rain on your parade, but we would have to know if you have the power to even pull any of these items. HP is not known for having very strong power supplies and you would be very disappointed if you put these items in a case with a HP power supply and it would not work at all for you.

Therefore, I suggest you start by listing the brand name and wattage of your power supply you want to use. If you can, also list the amps per rail for the +12 line and that informtion would be on the side of the power supply as you pull your side of the case off.

The other items you have listed appear to be compatible, if your power supply will pull it for you.

Rolyin · 03-30-2008, 02:00 PM

the PSU is a Bestec Model no: ATX-1956F
output 200W (max)
I hope that helps

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 02:06 PM

That power supply will not pull this rig, so you would have been disappointed. You will have to find a stronger power supply. My estimation is that you need around a 500 watt supply with a bare minimum of 26 amps on the +12 rail for that pci-e card you want. Might try an Antec Trio, an Antec Earthwatts, a silverstone, an Antec Neo HE, a Thermaltake "toughpower" or even a Seasonic or Corsair.

Rolyin · 03-30-2008, 02:14 PM

http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/102994

Would that cut it?

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 02:23 PM

That is not a quality power supply. My guess is that you will have to pay more than that to get one that does the job for you. Check out some of the brand names and models that I suggested for you.

Maybe you can find one on Ebay that fits what you need. I just want you to be very wary of those "no name" power supplies like the Bestic and the one you just suggested. In the USA, one has to pay a minimum of $50 or more for a quality 500 watt power supply. Some times you can find them on Ebay for half that if you find a seller with 100% ratings or close to that.

Rolyin · 03-30-2008, 02:47 PM

would you be able to tell me what connectors i need or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/124926

I have gone for that one as it has good reviews and is in my price range.
Will it work?

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 03:13 PM

Some power supplies have more up-to-date connectors. However, so you know what you are doing exactly, I want you to take a read of THIS before you go too far. This will pretty well educate you and tell you everything you need to know to understand the details about picking a proper power supply.

Rolyin · 03-30-2008, 03:31 PM

ok I have read that so I think that this will all work.
Just to check is the PSU right for the components so I dont buy the wrong stuff.
Im sorry to be a pain.

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 05:08 PM

First of all, you are not a pain, so don't feel uncomfortable asking any questions.

From what I can find, that power supply is made by Jeantech which is not a very good power supply. I am not saying it won't work, because I don't know. If you read the power supply link I gave you, then you know about low efficiency power supplies so you will have to judge that one. I did see that the tops for this supply was 72% efficiency (good supplies have much higher efficiency) which is quite low and I could not find how many amps per rail this one has. It also does not have active PFC that was mentioned, so that is also a negative for it. It would help if there was more definitive information about this supply.

Therefore, it is difficult for me to judge what this power supply is since there is not much literature on it. What companies do you use in the UK for online purchases besides this company? Do you have a NewEgg over there? Do you by any chance have any other large computer sales company?

Rolyin · 03-31-2008, 06:39 AM

We have maplins and ebuyer thats about it....

Rolyin · 03-31-2008, 07:52 AM

http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/114929

http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/127861

Which one is best for my needs?
Thanks.

Tumbleweed36 · 03-31-2008, 08:21 AM

The OCZ is a very good power supply IMHO. I would go for that one in a heartbeat. The Basiq is decent, but like it says, very basic.

Rolyin · 03-31-2008, 08:33 AM

ordered them all now, thanks for the help.
:D

Rolyin · 03-31-2008, 01:14 PM

do i need to get some heatsink paste?

HawMan · 03-31-2008, 02:39 PM

You should get some with your cooler, But im a fan of Arctic Silver 5.

Tumbleweed36 · 03-31-2008, 03:35 PM

I agree, for a heatsink/CPU/fan, I am also a fan (no pun intended HawMan

) of Artic Silver 5.

Rolyin · 04-01-2008, 08:51 AM

Ok jsut bench tested this and now I have no video display, oh I changed the mobo to a Asus M2N-MX SE Plus.
Can someone help please.

There is a standby light on the monitor, I have tried plugging it into the MOBO and Graphics Card and no luck with either, all the fans run and there is a light on the mobo.

Tumbleweed36 · 04-01-2008, 10:16 AM

Are you presently using the newer power supply and do you have the Video card connected to the power supply with the auxillary line? Do you have this one on the bench, or did you just do that with the old one. BTW, do you get a post beep when you start it up?

Rolyin · 04-01-2008, 11:18 AM

It is working now, I have no idea what I did but it is working.
Thank you for your help tho :D

03-30-2008, 01:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	[SOLVED] Partial newbuild Hi, I was wondering if someone could tell em if all these parts would work together. CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/135664 Cooling: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/105995 RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/116755 MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/113844 Graphics: http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/129802 I already hace a PSU that came with my HP pavillion, I am also using that as the case and the fans that came with it, I also have an IDE harddrive and DVD drive so will this all work? Also for the CPU cooling would I need some of that paste stuff? Could someone please reply asap as I would like to build this PC soon. Thanks :D Last edited by Rolyin; 03-30-2008 at 01:39 PM.

03-30-2008, 01:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild Rolyin, I hate to rain on your parade, but we would have to know if you have the power to even pull any of these items. HP is not known for having very strong power supplies and you would be very disappointed if you put these items in a case with a HP power supply and it would not work at all for you. Therefore, I suggest you start by listing the brand name and wattage of your power supply you want to use. If you can, also list the amps per rail for the +12 line and that informtion would be on the side of the power supply as you pull your side of the case off. The other items you have listed appear to be compatible, if your power supply will pull it for you. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-30-2008, 02:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild the PSU is a Bestec Model no: ATX-1956F output 200W (max) I hope that helps

03-30-2008, 02:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild That power supply will not pull this rig, so you would have been disappointed. You will have to find a stronger power supply. My estimation is that you need around a 500 watt supply with a bare minimum of 26 amps on the +12 rail for that pci-e card you want. Might try an Antec Trio, an Antec Earthwatts, a silverstone, an Antec Neo HE, a Thermaltake "toughpower" or even a Seasonic or Corsair. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-30-2008, 02:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/102994 Would that cut it?

03-30-2008, 02:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild That is not a quality power supply. My guess is that you will have to pay more than that to get one that does the job for you. Check out some of the brand names and models that I suggested for you. Maybe you can find one on Ebay that fits what you need. I just want you to be very wary of those "no name" power supplies like the Bestic and the one you just suggested. In the USA, one has to pay a minimum of $50 or more for a quality 500 watt power supply. Some times you can find them on Ebay for half that if you find a seller with 100% ratings or close to that. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-30-2008, 02:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild would you be able to tell me what connectors i need or are they all pretty much the same? http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/124926 I have gone for that one as it has good reviews and is in my price range. Will it work? Last edited by Rolyin; 03-30-2008 at 03:16 PM.

03-30-2008, 03:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild Some power supplies have more up-to-date connectors. However, so you know what you are doing exactly, I want you to take a read of THIS before you go too far. This will pretty well educate you and tell you everything you need to know to understand the details about picking a proper power supply. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-30-2008, 03:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild ok I have read that so I think that this will all work. Just to check is the PSU right for the components so I dont buy the wrong stuff. Im sorry to be a pain.

03-30-2008, 05:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild First of all, you are not a pain, so don't feel uncomfortable asking any questions. From what I can find, that power supply is made by Jeantech which is not a very good power supply. I am not saying it won't work, because I don't know. If you read the power supply link I gave you, then you know about low efficiency power supplies so you will have to judge that one. I did see that the tops for this supply was 72% efficiency (good supplies have much higher efficiency) which is quite low and I could not find how many amps per rail this one has. It also does not have active PFC that was mentioned, so that is also a negative for it. It would help if there was more definitive information about this supply. Therefore, it is difficult for me to judge what this power supply is since there is not much literature on it. What companies do you use in the UK for online purchases besides this company? Do you have a NewEgg over there? Do you by any chance have any other large computer sales company? __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread. Last edited by Tumbleweed36; 03-30-2008 at 05:12 PM.

03-31-2008, 06:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild We have maplins and ebuyer thats about it....

03-31-2008, 07:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/114929 http://www.ebuyer.com:80/product/127861 Which one is best for my needs? Thanks.

03-31-2008, 08:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild The OCZ is a very good power supply IMHO. I would go for that one in a heartbeat. The Basiq is decent, but like it says, very basic. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

03-31-2008, 08:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild ordered them all now, thanks for the help. :D

03-31-2008, 01:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild do i need to get some heatsink paste?

03-31-2008, 02:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
HawMan Liam Join Date: May 2006 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 2,941 OS: Win XP My System	Re: Partial newbuild You should get some with your cooler, But im a fan of Arctic Silver 5. __________________ Please Consider Donating to keep the site free.

03-31-2008, 03:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild I agree, for a heatsink/CPU/fan, I am also a fan (no pun intended HawMan ) of Artic Silver 5. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

04-01-2008, 08:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild Ok jsut bench tested this and now I have no video display, oh I changed the mobo to a Asus M2N-MX SE Plus. Can someone help please. There is a standby light on the monitor, I have tried plugging it into the MOBO and Graphics Card and no luck with either, all the fans run and there is a light on the mobo. Last edited by Rolyin; 04-01-2008 at 09:12 AM.

04-01-2008, 10:16 AM	#19 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,662 OS: XP Professional	Re: Partial newbuild Are you presently using the newer power supply and do you have the Video card connected to the power supply with the auxillary line? Do you have this one on the bench, or did you just do that with the old one. BTW, do you get a post beep when you start it up? __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

04-01-2008, 11:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
Rolyin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington Posts: 97 OS: Win XP, Win 7 and Debian 5	Re: Partial newbuild It is working now, I have no idea what I did but it is working. Thank you for your help tho :D