First Time Build Questions

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 10:45 AM

I am looking at building my first system and really just need a compatability check and some other minor questions.

I am going to use the the hard drive from my previous computer, do I need to buy a new copy of a OS?
Are their anyother parts I should add to my list?
Will this be able to run the latest games? (My specs now can run everything on Medium to Highest settings and Crysis on low)
Are all these parts compatible?

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 10:48 AM

Another question:

Should I upgrade the CPU for a phenom around the same price? (I like the one I chose b/c it comes with fan and is 3.2 GHz and Intels don't get as good of GHz)

If I need a new OS which one do you like best?

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 11:57 AM

nope i dont think you can SLI those cards with that motherboard. this really hurts for me to say, but you need to go intel :( however, for that price it will be hard to get something that will work. what is your overall price range?

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 12:11 PM

My max would be $500 without trading in my current PC. The motherboard is SLI certified???

And why are intels so expensive?

You know thane me here, but what is wrong with AMD's?

dai · 03-26-2008, 12:20 PM

would pefer to see this in there
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171024

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 12:31 PM

Those power supplies just don't fit my budget and the Ultra is a good brand and has a LIFETIME WARRANTY!

An Intel CPU for the same price is this one

: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor HH80557PH0362M - 1.86GHz, 2MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Conroe, Dual-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 12:33 PM

AMD has just fallen behind. nvidia wont support (im not 100% sure on this can someone back me up?) amd AM2 with their new 8xxx series in SLI. im all for amd also but they are slower then intel right now, although the phenom BE has been good. tough to call right now, ill see what i can find...

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 12:35 PM

Thankyou very much. I could sacrifice other components such as the CD Drive for what I have now which is a BENQ 52x24x52 Seamless Link CD and a External USB DVD RW/CD RW drive. As far as the video cards the requirements just say a Intel or AMD compatible motherboard.

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I am going to use the the hard drive from my previous computer, do I need to buy a new copy of a OS?

This:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3241551
&
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=2959594

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 01:10 PM

as long as you have the install disk on hand, you should be ok

dai · 03-26-2008, 01:18 PM

you never scrimp on the psu you cut down on something else
what made me notice it was i am on another thread with the same psu and the computer will not boot
checking the specs the 700w psu has a max output of 500w listed on the manufacturers site

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 01:40 PM

dai is 100% correct. didnt see that before....not a good psu. look at the ones he has linked to, or anything by antec, silverstone, seasonic, enermax, pc power and cooling, corsair, OCZ, thermaltake, FSP, and tagan. those are the best brands

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 01:47 PM

As far as the video cards with the AMD's the requirements just say a Intel or AMD compatible motherboard. I will go with an Intel though if that is the best thing I can do right now.

I have read a lot and know not to scimp on the PSU, but isn't Ultra a pretty respected manufacturer? I double checked and on Ultraproducts.com ( Here) it is listed as 700 Watts and has and 78% efficiency rating and is tested for 100,000 hours. That would run at 546 Watts, seemingly enough for my set up. Anyway I will change to get the nicer PSU if you really insist, but then where can I find a cheap nice quality preferably tool-less case?

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 01:51 PM

www.xoxide.com www.performance-pcs.com www.frozencpu.com i recomend antec for cheap, termaltake for tool less (mostly) and silverstone/lian li (exspensive!) for both :P kinda hard to find a cheap case thats tool less though...sorry

as for ultra, they are better then they were...but...ehh i would still avoid them

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 01:54 PM

Wow thanks for the case tips!! I will search for a new PSU now. Have any other suggestions?

Are Xoxide cases good quality?

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 02:00 PM

xoxide in general is pretty good quality i would buy one of their cases if i liked its look :) too bad i dont buy cases anymore..o well

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 02:07 PM

How about this for my case:
http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-lustre-x-black.html

This for my PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

This for my CPU & Motherboard
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3478226

And what do you guys think about barebones?

dai · 03-26-2008, 02:10 PM

looks good

bearsaj99 · 03-26-2008, 02:19 PM

I found another PSU what do you think about it

Hiper Type-M Ultra-Efficient 630W Mesh Power Supply - Black
This one got 85% effiency and Maximum Power Output: 870W
Sustained Power Output: 630W
http://www.xoxide.com/hyper-type-m-630w-black.html

dai · 03-26-2008, 02:29 PM

it's not a recommended brand go with the previous one
First Time Build Questions

**forcifer** · 03-26-2008, 02:35 PM

hiper is better then ultra i wouldnt get them first choice but if it was cheap enough then yea. they are very popular in europe right now.

edit: i stand corrected on ultra power supplies http://jonnyguru.com/modules.php?nam...Story4&reid=29

03-26-2008, 10:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	First Time Build Questions I am looking at building my first system and really just need a compatability check and some other minor questions. I am going to use the the hard drive from my previous computer, do I need to buy a new copy of a OS? Are their anyother parts I should add to my list? Will this be able to run the latest games? (My specs now can run everything on Medium to Highest settings and Crysis on low) Are all these parts compatible? Ultra XVS 700 Watt Ultra Grid Clear Side ATX Case x2 XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 256 MB XXX Edition(I already have one) OCZ SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) Asus M2N-SLI Motherboard AMD A64 X2 6400+ 3.20GHz Retail Lite-On LH-20A1S SuperAllwrite SATA DVD Burner - 20x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW My own 150 GB Hard Drive

03-26-2008, 10:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions Another question: Should I upgrade the CPU for a phenom around the same price? (I like the one I chose b/c it comes with fan and is 3.2 GHz and Intels don't get as good of GHz) If I need a new OS which one do you like best? Last edited by bearsaj99; 03-26-2008 at 10:59 AM.

03-26-2008, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions nope i dont think you can SLI those cards with that motherboard. this really hurts for me to say, but you need to go intel :( however, for that price it will be hard to get something that will work. what is your overall price range? __________________ now i remember

03-26-2008, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions My max would be $500 without trading in my current PC. The motherboard is SLI certified??? And why are intels so expensive? You know thane me here, but what is wrong with AMD's? Last edited by bearsaj99; 03-26-2008 at 12:25 PM.

03-26-2008, 12:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,577 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: First Time Build Questions would pefer to see this in there http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171024 __________________

03-26-2008, 12:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions Those power supplies just don't fit my budget and the Ultra is a good brand and has a LIFETIME WARRANTY! An Intel CPU for the same price is this one : Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor HH80557PH0362M - 1.86GHz, 2MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Conroe, Dual-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor

03-26-2008, 12:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions AMD has just fallen behind. nvidia wont support (im not 100% sure on this can someone back me up?) amd AM2 with their new 8xxx series in SLI. im all for amd also but they are slower then intel right now, although the phenom BE has been good. tough to call right now, ill see what i can find... __________________ now i remember

03-26-2008, 12:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions Thankyou very much. I could sacrifice other components such as the CD Drive for what I have now which is a BENQ 52x24x52 Seamless Link CD and a External USB DVD RW/CD RW drive. As far as the video cards the requirements just say a Intel or AMD compatible motherboard. & I am going to use the the hard drive from my previous computer, do I need to buy a new copy of a OS? This: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3241551 & http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=2959594 Last edited by bearsaj99; 03-26-2008 at 12:51 PM.

03-26-2008, 01:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions as long as you have the install disk on hand, you should be ok __________________ now i remember

03-26-2008, 01:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,577 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: First Time Build Questions you never scrimp on the psu you cut down on something else what made me notice it was i am on another thread with the same psu and the computer will not boot checking the specs the 700w psu has a max output of 500w listed on the manufacturers site __________________

03-26-2008, 01:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions dai is 100% correct. didnt see that before....not a good psu. look at the ones he has linked to, or anything by antec, silverstone, seasonic, enermax, pc power and cooling, corsair, OCZ, thermaltake, FSP, and tagan. those are the best brands __________________ now i remember

03-26-2008, 01:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions As far as the video cards with the AMD's the requirements just say a Intel or AMD compatible motherboard. I will go with an Intel though if that is the best thing I can do right now. I have read a lot and know not to scimp on the PSU, but isn't Ultra a pretty respected manufacturer? I double checked and on Ultraproducts.com ( Here) it is listed as 700 Watts and has and 78% efficiency rating and is tested for 100,000 hours. That would run at 546 Watts, seemingly enough for my set up. Anyway I will change to get the nicer PSU if you really insist, but then where can I find a cheap nice quality preferably tool-less case? Last edited by bearsaj99; 03-26-2008 at 01:51 PM.

03-26-2008, 01:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions www.xoxide.com www.performance-pcs.com www.frozencpu.com i recomend antec for cheap, termaltake for tool less (mostly) and silverstone/lian li (exspensive!) for both :P kinda hard to find a cheap case thats tool less though...sorry as for ultra, they are better then they were...but...ehh i would still avoid them __________________ now i remember

03-26-2008, 01:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions Wow thanks for the case tips!! I will search for a new PSU now. Have any other suggestions? Are Xoxide cases good quality? Last edited by bearsaj99; 03-26-2008 at 01:55 PM.

03-26-2008, 02:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions xoxide in general is pretty good quality i would buy one of their cases if i liked its look :) too bad i dont buy cases anymore..o well __________________ now i remember

03-26-2008, 02:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions How about this for my case: http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-lustre-x-black.html This for my PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005 This for my CPU & Motherboard http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3478226 And what do you guys think about barebones? Last edited by bearsaj99; 03-26-2008 at 02:09 PM.

03-26-2008, 02:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,577 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: First Time Build Questions looks good __________________

03-26-2008, 02:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
bearsaj99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 40 OS: Windows XP SP 2	Re: First Time Build Questions I found another PSU what do you think about it Hiper Type-M Ultra-Efficient 630W Mesh Power Supply - Black This one got 85% effiency and Maximum Power Output: 870W Sustained Power Output: 630W http://www.xoxide.com/hyper-type-m-630w-black.html

03-26-2008, 02:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,577 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: First Time Build Questions it's not a recommended brand go with the previous one First Time Build Questions __________________

03-26-2008, 02:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,625 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Time Build Questions hiper is better then ultra i wouldnt get them first choice but if it was cheap enough then yea. they are very popular in europe right now. edit: i stand corrected on ultra power supplies http://jonnyguru.com/modules.php?nam...Story4&reid=29 __________________ now i remember Last edited by forcifer; 03-26-2008 at 02:42 PM.