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Old 10-18-2007, 06:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking for help with my first build

Hey TSF, I did some searching and this place seems to have great people who can help me find a build. :)

I've never built before, so I figured it would be smart to ask somebody who knows what they're doing.

Heres the survey I filled out, if any more info is needed I'll be checking this thread as often as possible.

Budget: How much money are you willing to spend on the new build?

About $1800ish, including a monitor... I can go a little higher if neccesary.


Brands: Are there any brands of components you want or don't want?


I'd prefer a nVidia video card because I've heard ATI isn't quite as good when it comes to updates and stuff.


Multitasking: Will you be multitasking with this computer and if so, how much?

I do some but not alot of multitasking. (dual core is preferred)

Gaming: Will you be gaming and if so, how much and how new are the games?


I'm an avid gamer. I'm looking for a computer that will run Crysis, Bioshock, Call of Duty.... all those high end games.

Calculations: Will you be doing any intense calculations or media encoding?

No.

Overclocking: Do you plan on overclocking and if so, how much?

If it is worth it and is within my budget, sure.

Storage: How much storage will you need and what will you be storing?

I'll be storing multiple games and a few applications also.

Operating System: Do you want Windows XP or Vista, or Linux compatibility?

Vista. I figure that eventually it will be something I will need so I might as well embrace the future.

Case: Do you want help selecting a case and if so, how big do you want it?

Just looking for something nice looking and with good craftmanship. LED lighting and all that jazz isn't needed.

Accessories: Do you want a keyboard, mouse, monitor, or other items included?

I plan on getting a ~17+ inch widescreen monitor

Monitor: If you want a monitor, what size do you want and should it be widescreen?

~17+, widescreen.

Stores: Do you have any online stores that you prefer to purchase from?

Anywhere that is trusted is good with me.

Location: What country do you live in?

Canada.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Looking for help with my first build

Have a look at this and see what you think

ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131196


Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail $280

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028


CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail $68 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145177


Seagate ST3320832SCE 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $70

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148287


XFX PVT80FSHE9 GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported HDCP Video Card - Retail $490 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150232


Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $120 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133154


ViewSonic X Series VX2035WM Piano Black-Silver 20" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 800:1 Built in Speakers - Retail $240 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116066


Sony NEC Optiarc Black 20X DVD $31

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118003


ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118019


Thermaltake toughpower W0117RU ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply 100 - 240 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified - Retail $160 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153036


Total $1674
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Looking for help with my first build

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Have a look at this and see what you think

ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131196


Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail $280

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028


CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail $68 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145177


Seagate ST3320832SCE 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $70

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148287


XFX PVT80FSHE9 GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported HDCP Video Card - Retail $490 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150232


Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $120 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133154


ViewSonic X Series VX2035WM Piano Black-Silver 20" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 800:1 Built in Speakers - Retail $240 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116066


Sony NEC Optiarc Black 20X DVD $31

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118003


ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118019


Thermaltake toughpower W0117RU ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply 100 - 240 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified - Retail $160 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153036


Total $1674
Looks great but Newegg doesn't ship to Canada :(

Sorry for that waste of time
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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these guys are in Canada
http://www.ncix.com/
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Looking for help with my first build

ok, i'm not real sure the best places to buy in canada so this was one place i found, at least between the two builds you may be able to use it for a good shopping list

ASUS Motherboard C2D P5K DELUXE WIFI-AP INTP35 ICH9 DDR2 $244

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8205


Thermaltake Power Supply W0117RU Tough Power 750W ATX 14cm fan $190

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/4659


Corsair Memory 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM DIMM 240-pin $140

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/6571


Intel CPU Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz FSB1333MHz Conroe 4M L2 $299

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8564


Seagate Hard Drives ST3250820NS 250G SATA 7200RPM 16MB $81

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8421


XFX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB DDR3 HDCP PCI-E ROHS SLI TV D-LINK DVI $315

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8146


Viewsonic LCD 20.1" VX2035WM 1680x1050 800:1 5ms Black/Silver $289

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/6627


Thermaltake Case VA8000BWS Super Tower ATX Black NO PS $170

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/2533
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Looking for help with my first build

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ok, i'm not real sure the best places to buy in canada so this was one place i found, at least between the two builds you may be able to use it for a good shopping list

ASUS Motherboard C2D P5K DELUXE WIFI-AP INTP35 ICH9 DDR2 $244

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8205


Thermaltake Power Supply W0117RU Tough Power 750W ATX 14cm fan $190

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/4659


Corsair Memory 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM DIMM 240-pin $140

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/6571


Intel CPU Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz FSB1333MHz Conroe 4M L2 $299

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8564


Seagate Hard Drives ST3250820NS 250G SATA 7200RPM 16MB $81

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8421


XFX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB DDR3 HDCP PCI-E ROHS SLI TV D-LINK DVI $315

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/8146


Viewsonic LCD 20.1" VX2035WM 1680x1050 800:1 5ms Black/Silver $289

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/6627


Thermaltake Case VA8000BWS Super Tower ATX Black NO PS $170

http://btecanada.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/2533
Thanks :-)

I have no idea if they are a good computer store as I've never heard of them.

Two shops that I trust are http://www.ncix.com/ and tigerdirect.ca.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Looking for help with my first build

NCIX is good.

One other thing, you really have to watch out when buying the ViewSonic LCDs because many of them although saying they support "HDTV" don't actually support HDCP which is essential for HDTV. I would look at Samsung and Acer for the time being.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.66GHZ 1333FSB 4MB - $277
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ufacture=Intel

Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Kit W/ LEDs - $105
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...L%20TECHNOLOGY

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN 1394 Motherboard - $219
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Gigabyte

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive 5YR MFR Warranty - $82
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=Seagate

Pioneer DVR-112D Black DVD-RW 18X6X18 DVD+RW 18X8X18 DL 10X IDE OEM DVD Burner No Software - $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=Pioneer

EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GTS Superclocked 576MHZ 320MB 1.7GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV HDCP Video Card - $300
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=eVGA

Thermaltake Toughpower W0117 750W w/14cm Fan Power Supply (Black) - $185
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...re=Thermaltake

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Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio - $117
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ufacture=ANTEC

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Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS No PS w/25cm Fan Window ATX/BTX Ready Full Tower Case (Black) - $173
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...re=Thermaltake

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ACER AL1916WABD 19 W-LCD BLK 1440X900 700:1 5MS 300CD/M2 DUAL-INPUTS 150'/135' 90/1890 - $206
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=Acer

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Acer AL2016WBBD 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 1680X1050 800:1 5MS VGA DVI-D Monitor - $230
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=Acer
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Re: Looking for help with my first build

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NCIX is good.

One other thing, you really have to watch out when buying the ViewSonic LCDs because many of them although saying they support "HDTV" don't actually support HDCP which is essential for HDTV. I would look at Samsung and Acer for the time being.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.66GHZ 1333FSB 4MB - $277
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ufacture=Intel

Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Kit W/ LEDs - $105
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...L%20TECHNOLOGY

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN 1394 Motherboard - $219
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Gigabyte

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive 5YR MFR Warranty - $82
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=Seagate

Pioneer DVR-112D Black DVD-RW 18X6X18 DVD+RW 18X8X18 DL 10X IDE OEM DVD Burner No Software - $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=Pioneer

EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GTS Superclocked 576MHZ 320MB 1.7GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV HDCP Video Card - $300
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=eVGA

Thermaltake Toughpower W0117 750W w/14cm Fan Power Supply (Black) - $185
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...re=Thermaltake

----

Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio - $117
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ufacture=ANTEC

-or-

Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS No PS w/25cm Fan Window ATX/BTX Ready Full Tower Case (Black) - $173
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...re=Thermaltake

----

ACER AL1916WABD 19 W-LCD BLK 1440X900 700:1 5MS 300CD/M2 DUAL-INPUTS 150'/135' 90/1890 - $206
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=Acer

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Acer AL2016WBBD 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 1680X1050 800:1 5MS VGA DVI-D Monitor - $230
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=Acer
Thanks a lot Matt, that build looks great :)

One thing I dislike though is the case, I was thinking about getting this one instead, granted that it works well with this build: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...8&Sku=ULT31824
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LOLZ INTEL.

Go AMD64X2.
Best way to go.

Lab proven that AMD>Intel

Get an ASUS Motherboard.

Gig of ram

300 Gig HD

Full Case

700 Watt power supply.

and a 512 MB or better GFX Card. (Nvidia preferred - depends on what you have left after everything else.)

Oh and for moniter, make sure you get like a 20" Flat screen LCD.

I would cream my pants.

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LOLZ INTEL.

Go AMD64X2.
Best way to go.

Lab proven that AMD>Intel

Get an ASUS Motherboard.

Gig of ram

300 Gig HD

Full Case

700 Watt power supply.

and a 512 MB or better GFX Card. (Nvidia preferred - depends on what you have left after everything else.)

Oh and for moniter, make sure you get like a 20" Flat screen LCD.

I would cream my pants.
Real life proven intel

Video memorey has almost nothing to do with the speed of the card.
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Right now Intel is controlling the market and also has the most stable platform. There is also a much larger selection of high quality Intel-compatible motherboards than AMD-compatible motherboards. Keep in mind also that Intel is essentially the company that controls PC Hardware, namely form factors.

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Thanks a lot Matt, that build looks great :)

One thing I dislike though is the case, I was thinking about getting this one instead, granted that it works well with this build: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...8&Sku=ULT31824
That is also a very nice case. Just remember to pick up some quality 120mm fans since it doesn't come with any.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...1480&CatId=802
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Right now Intel is controlling the market and also has the most stable platform. There is also a much larger selection of high quality Intel-compatible motherboards than AMD-compatible motherboards. Keep in mind also that Intel is essentially the company that controls PC Hardware, namely form factors.



That is also a very nice case. Just remember to pick up some quality 120mm fans since it doesn't come with any.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...1480&CatId=802
Great, I'll be sure to get two of those.
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