What a business System Administration?

Zero369 · 01-31-2006, 07:09 PM

For some reason my school started off early this year and already has us picking which classes we want to take next year.

One class that caught my eye was Business System Administration? Now exactly what is that? I know I want to become a System Administration one day. I want to become a Unix System Administration.

Is that what you will learn in that class? or am I off?

Thanks in advance !!!

root · 02-05-2006, 04:39 PM

Business Systems Administration courses would teach you how to develop, deploy and manage applications/systems in an environment that's unique to the business field.

Zero369 · 03-05-2006, 02:42 PM

For the late reply but when you say system does that include Unix and Unix-like OS?

yustr · 03-07-2006, 05:42 AM

What does the catalog description say? If it is a one semester class you will learn only the basics of any system. Most probably you'll look at all of the major players and why each is favored for certain application. A class devoted to Unix Sys Admin will say only that.

Zero369 · 03-07-2006, 08:28 PM

I talk to the teacher that will be teaching it, his a new teacher. He said we will be learning the following

Graduates are able to administer and manage networks including security and administrative skills using the latest Windows, Unix, Novell and CISCO technologies
Graduates are able to create and manage user and group accounts, configure network routers, and install network appliance such as printers and fax machines
Graduates are able to actively assist in the development and implementation of management policies for disaster recory, network security design, and implementation of an effective configuration management plan.
Graduates are able to assist customers in the day-to-day operations of the network and provide timely resolution of problems. Critical thinking and sound troubleshooting practices are major components of this program
Graduates are able to participate in software installations, network upgrades, and end-user training.

It also looks I need to take the class two years in the row to get the credit.

buckleytech · 03-14-2006, 09:33 PM

I'm not certain, but from the points you highlighted, this may be the same two year course that was offered by my school several years ago. It was sponsored by CISCO, and was an excellent course, but a couple of quick notes for you:

1. While you can get through the 2 years just fine without any prerequisite knowledge, you need to be fairly familiar with the topics to get any real world value out of the course. If you are looking for credit and a nice resume note, go ahead and take it blind, but if you are seriously looking at making networking and system administration a career, try and get ahold of as much material before next year, and do a good study over break of the "why would I need to know this" and "how would I use this in the real world" information. Keep up the extra study once the course is underway.

2. The instructor may not know much about the topic at hand. He probably will attend a brief seminar over the summer so that he has a basic knowledge of the topic at hand. Once again, the book knowledge is not of much use to you without the real world application.

3. It will be a mere drop in the bucket. You will cover quite a bit of information regarding a single CISCO centric configuration- which you will never see again in the real world. The knowledge you gain will be very useful to you- but less in application than in theory.

4. The most valuable thing you will gain is practice learning about technology. The experience will greatly lower the learning curve when you are thrown into a situation you have never seen before. School is about learning to learn, not learning to do.

Kudos, and good luck to you! I hope you find the course valuable!

Zero369 · 03-27-2006, 06:35 PM

Thanks for that input buckleytech.

I pick up two books today

Learning the Unix Operating System and How the Internet Works.

I'm also rebuilding my old computer tomorrow and will use it for experimenting.

Also, are there any other classes would you recommend I should I take? I'm not sure what all the technology classes my school offer but I do know that they are working with a few colleges. So, most likely they will offer it.

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Zero369 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 112 OS: 2000	What a business System Administration? For some reason my school started off early this year and already has us picking which classes we want to take next year. One class that caught my eye was Business System Administration? Now exactly what is that? I know I want to become a System Administration one day. I want to become a Unix System Administration. Is that what you will learn in that class? or am I off? Thanks in advance !!!

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root Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: uSA Posts: 13 OS: Winders	Business Systems Administration courses would teach you how to develop, deploy and manage applications/systems in an environment that's unique to the business field. __________________ Wiser Consulting Group -- Making your DREAMS the next logical step.

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yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore/California Desert Posts: 4,857 OS: PCLinuxOS, XP Pro My System	What does the catalog description say? If it is a one semester class you will learn only the basics of any system. Most probably you'll look at all of the major players and why each is favored for certain application. A class devoted to Unix Sys Admin will say only that. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

03-07-2006, 08:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zero369 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 112 OS: 2000	I talk to the teacher that will be teaching it, his a new teacher. He said we will be learning the following Graduates are able to administer and manage networks including security and administrative skills using the latest Windows, Unix, Novell and CISCO technologies Graduates are able to create and manage user and group accounts, configure network routers, and install network appliance such as printers and fax machines Graduates are able to actively assist in the development and implementation of management policies for disaster recory, network security design, and implementation of an effective configuration management plan. Graduates are able to assist customers in the day-to-day operations of the network and provide timely resolution of problems. Critical thinking and sound troubleshooting practices are major components of this program Graduates are able to participate in software installations, network upgrades, and end-user training. It also looks I need to take the class two years in the row to get the credit.

03-14-2006, 09:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
buckleytech Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10 OS: One of each Win/*ix	I think this may be.... I'm not certain, but from the points you highlighted, this may be the same two year course that was offered by my school several years ago. It was sponsored by CISCO, and was an excellent course, but a couple of quick notes for you: 1. While you can get through the 2 years just fine without any prerequisite knowledge, you need to be fairly familiar with the topics to get any real world value out of the course. If you are looking for credit and a nice resume note, go ahead and take it blind, but if you are seriously looking at making networking and system administration a career, try and get ahold of as much material before next year, and do a good study over break of the "why would I need to know this" and "how would I use this in the real world" information. Keep up the extra study once the course is underway. 2. The instructor may not know much about the topic at hand. He probably will attend a brief seminar over the summer so that he has a basic knowledge of the topic at hand. Once again, the book knowledge is not of much use to you without the real world application. 3. It will be a mere drop in the bucket. You will cover quite a bit of information regarding a single CISCO centric configuration- which you will never see again in the real world. The knowledge you gain will be very useful to you- but less in application than in theory. 4. The most valuable thing you will gain is practice learning about technology. The experience will greatly lower the learning curve when you are thrown into a situation you have never seen before. School is about learning to learn, not learning to do. Kudos, and good luck to you! I hope you find the course valuable!

03-05-2006, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zero369 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 112 OS: 2000	For the late reply but when you say system does that include Unix and Unix-like OS?

03-27-2006, 06:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Zero369 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 112 OS: 2000	Thanks for that input buckleytech. I pick up two books today Learning the Unix Operating System and How the Internet Works. I'm also rebuilding my old computer tomorrow and will use it for experimenting. Also, are there any other classes would you recommend I should I take? I'm not sure what all the technology classes my school offer but I do know that they are working with a few colleges. So, most likely they will offer it.