Random FPS drops in WoW and CSS onna fairly new PC

[razorhell]

ok so i bought a new PC 4 months ago a vista 64 system and its been running games and stuff fine until about a month ago games like WoW and Counter Strike Source have had random fps drops where in WoW for example i'm usually running around 65 average fps it goes as low as 4 fps for a good 1-2 minutes then goes back to normal these fps drops happen every 5 or so minutes i have checked the temparature of my hardware and my isp and everything seems to be fine i have no idea why this is happening and would appreciate any help or insight into whats goin on.

Specs:
OS Name: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Version: 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
System Model: AU169AA-A2L p6122f
System Type: x64-based PC
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor, 2100 Mhz
RAM: 6.00 GB
Total Physical Memory: 1.75 GB
Available Physical Memory: 3.74 GB
Total Virtual Memory: 11.7 GB
Available Virtual Memory: 9.60 GB
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 9100 version 7.15.0011.8214

[Renjizzle]

Could be an issue with the mutli-core. I know the source engine doesnt fully support using multi-core, so try setting an affinity to run on one processor and see if it still persists : Ctrl+Alt+Delete - Task Manager - Process Tab - Right Click on HL2.exe - choose "set affinity" and check only one processor. I know this has been an issue with other people as well.

Also, what are you using to test your FPS in CSS? Dont use any overlay programs, simply open the console and choose net_graph 3 , and it will show FPS, ping in, ping out etc. If you dont want the graph over your money, you can use net_graphpos to move it. I use net_graphpos "13" so its on the opposite corner.

Best of luck to you.

[RockmasteR]

Hello and welcome to TSF

download SIW from my sig, open it and choose "Sensors" under "Hardware"
check the temps.
play a game for about 10 to 15 mins or when the lag starts, minimize it and recheck the temperatures again.
please post both temp states (idle, under stress)

[razorhell]

ok so these are the idle temperatures

Sensor Value Min Max
ROBBIE-PC
Fintek F8000
Voltages
VIN0 1.68 V 1.68 V 1.69 V
VIN1 1.68 V 1.68 V 1.68 V
VIN2 1.57 V 1.57 V 1.57 V
Temperatures
TMPIN0 49 °C (120 °F) 47 °C (116 °F) 49 °C (120 °F)
TMPIN2 38 °C (100 °F) 38 °C (100 °F) 47 °C (116 °F)
Fans
FANIN0 1754 RPM 1657 RPM 1758 RPM
FANIN1 1058 RPM 1046 RPM 1063 RPM
AMD Phenom X3 8450
Temperatures
Core #0 40 °C (103 °F) 40 °C (103 °F) 49 °C (119 °F)
Core #1 40 °C (103 °F) 40 °C (103 °F) 49 °C (119 °F)
Core #2 40 °C (103 °F) 40 °C (103 °F) 49 °C (119 °F)
NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Temperatures
GPU Core 86 °C (186 °F) 82 °C (179 °F) 86 °C (186 °F)

and these are the temps during the fps drops

Sensor Value Min Max
ROBBIE-PC
Fintek F8000
Voltages
VIN0 1.68 V 1.68 V 1.69 V
VIN1 1.68 V 1.68 V 1.68 V
VIN2 1.58 V 1.57 V 1.58 V
Temperatures
TMPIN0 56 °C (132 °F) 47 °C (116 °F) 57 °C (134 °F)
TMPIN2 55 °C (130 °F) 37 °C (98 °F) 57 °C (134 °F)
Fans
FANIN0 1746 RPM 1653 RPM 1882 RPM
FANIN1 1111 RPM 1045 RPM 1130 RPM
AMD Phenom X3 8450
Temperatures
Core #0 55 °C (130 °F) 39 °C (102 °F) 58 °C (136 °F)
Core #1 55 °C (130 °F) 39 °C (102 °F) 58 °C (136 °F)
Core #2 55 °C (130 °F) 39 °C (101 °F) 58 °C (136 °F)
NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Temperatures
GPU Core 122 °C (251 °F) 82 °C (179 °F) 125 °C (256 °F)

[razorhell]

the temps during the fps drop are much the same as the temps when im playing with my normal fps

[razorhell]

Originally Posted by Renjizzle

Could be an issue with the mutli-core. I know the source engine doesnt fully support using multi-core, so try setting an affinity to run on one processor and see if it still persists : Ctrl+Alt+Delete - Task Manager - Process Tab - Right Click on HL2.exe - choose "set affinity" and check only one processor. I know this has been an issue with other people as well.

Also, what are you using to test your FPS in CSS? Dont use any overlay programs, simply open the console and choose net_graph 3 , and it will show FPS, ping in, ping out etc. If you dont want the graph over your money, you can use net_graphpos to move it. I use net_graphpos "13" so its on the opposite corner.

Best of luck to you.

thanks ill try that :)

[razorhell]

Originally Posted by Renjizzle

Could be an issue with the mutli-core. I know the source engine doesnt fully support using multi-core, so try setting an affinity to run on one processor and see if it still persists : Ctrl+Alt+Delete - Task Manager - Process Tab - Right Click on HL2.exe - choose "set affinity" and check only one processor. I know this has been an issue with other people as well.

Also, what are you using to test your FPS in CSS? Dont use any overlay programs, simply open the console and choose net_graph 3 , and it will show FPS, ping in, ping out etc. If you dont want the graph over your money, you can use net_graphpos to move it. I use net_graphpos "13" so its on the opposite corner.

Best of luck to you.

ok so i tried what u have suggested above but to no avail the fps drops return ive tried setting the affinity to each individual processor and it all turned out the same :( i would like to thank you however for suggesting the fix :)

[Lord Sirian]

Wow. Your 9100 is overheating to massive levels. 125 degrees is way to hot and is actually a very dangerous temperature for it to be running at. Have you cleaned the dust out of your computer at all? (I know it's reasonably new)

[RockmasteR]

125C for a video card!!?
this is the first time I see that!
9100 is integrated in the motherboard? or do you have it as a PCIe card? (separate from the mobo)

[Phædrus2401]

125C is getting close to the point where the PCB will burst into flames. Something is not right here.

[razorhell]

Originally Posted by RockmasteR

125C for a video card!!?
this is the first time I see that!
9100 is integrated in the motherboard? or do you have it as a PCIe card? (separate from the mobo)

holy crap !! i had no idea yikes! yea its integrated to the mobo

[razorhell]

Originally Posted by Lord Sirian

Wow. Your 9100 is overheating to massive levels. 125 degrees is way to hot and is actually a very dangerous temperature for it to be running at. Have you cleaned the dust out of your computer at all? (I know it's reasonably new)

yea ive cleaned what little dust was present