Warcraft III

[DarkxStrife]

About a month or so, I decided to reformat my hard drive. I reformatted normally, and i installed all my drivers from cds, except my video card driver, which i downloaded from the internet. After i reformatted, I began having problems with Warcraft III specifically. I dont have any problems with any other games. When I'm playing Warcraft III, sometimes all of the sudden the game more or less crashes, leaving a disorientated and shifting screen, like a cubism painting only shifting extremely quickly. This started happening right after i reformatted. First I tried reformatting again, which didnt help. Then i tried using an earlier driver, which quelled the problem temporarily, but not completely. Then i tried cleaning my fan, suspecting that my card was overheating, but that didnt help either. I tried reinstalling warcraft III, but it didnt work. Im kinda running out of options, could anyone help me please?

Heres a video of it YouTube - Computer going haywire

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3
Intel Core Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16Ghz
2.00 GB of RAM
9800 GTX+ Geforce

[DarkxStrife]

More specs, sorry i didnt post it earlier.
MSI P7N Platinum (Nvidia 750i NForce SLI)
Corsair 2 x 1GB RAM DDR2
EVGA 9800 GTX+ 512 MB
750W Thermaltake power supply
320 GB Hitachi 16MB SATA
Intel Silent Whisper CPU Cooler

[Cdx]

Hello DarkxStrife and Welcome to TSF!

Download RevoUninstaller from my signature, and use it to Uninstall Warcraft 3, after it is uninstalled, reboot your computer, then install it again.

Also click Steps before Posting and make sure you follow those instructions.

[DarkxStrife]

ive done steps one (my specs overqualify), two (its a recurring problem), i dont often have programs running when i play i almost always exit instant messengers and close all windows before i start gaming, i regularly install direct x updates, seven, warcraft doesnt need cd but its new regardless, ive tried reinstalling without third party uninstallers.
There are no mods for warcraft that i know of, cept dota but its a map. and it doesnt necessarily happen during battlenet.
I originally had the newest driver for my video card when it happened, so i backtracked a little, which drastically reduced the occurence, but it still happens from time to time.

Strange thing about it is that it happens extremely randomly. I can have warcraft open for 2 minutes and have it crash, and i can have it running for hours and hours and have it run perfectly.

I'll try the reinstall with the revouninstaller, hopefully that will fix it. thanks a bunch.

[DarkxStrife]

ok so i tried the uninstall with the revouninstaller, and i reinstalled the game. it seemed fine but after about an hour and a half worth of play, the game crashed again like before. what should i do?

[Lord Sirian]

Hi there.

Can you please check your temperatures with Everest and SensorsView, both while idle and after 10 - 20 minutes playing.

Also, is Warcraft 3 the only game you are experiencing this problem with?

[DarkxStrife]

Sensor (idle)
Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type HDD
GPU Sensor Type Driver (NV-DRV)
Temperatures:
GPU 54 °C (129 °F)
Hitachi HDP725032GLA360 32 °C (90 °F)

Sensor (after 10-20 minutes of playing)
Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type HDD
GPU Sensor Type Driver (NV-DRV)
Temperatures:
GPU 59 °C (138 °F)
Hitachi HDP725032GLA360 38 °C (100 °F)

Sensors View
Idle
CPU 42 °C / 108 °F
GPU 56 °C / 133 °F
SYS 0 °C / 32 °F
AUX 0 °C / 32 °F
HDD 33 °C / 92 °F

After Play
CPU 44 °C / 112 °F
GPU 59 °C / 139 °F
SYS 0 °C / 32 °F
AUX 0 °C / 32 °F
HDD 39 °C / 103 °F

Yes Warcraft is the only time this happens. And I'm assuming you have to use the report feature in Everest in order to find temperatures so thats what i did.

[DarkxStrife]

another thing is that after it happens once, i can restart and the problem doesnt usually happen again that day. it occurs around once a day really.

[DarkxStrife]

bump... can someone help?

[Tiber Septim]

Hi DarkxStrife, sorry for the late reply.

Could you please check the voltages Everest reports both idle and under load.
Also, it was hard to tell from the video, but when the screen starts going crazy does the audio cut out or start looping or does it continue as normal?

[DarkxStrife]

sorry for the late response, ive been out of town
i dont know how to check the voltages for everest, do you mean do a full system report and find the cpu voltages? cause thats all i could find
the audio is fine, nothing is wrong with it when it happens, it continues as normal. everything that happens i can hear. like if someone gets first blood when it happens, i can hear it

[Mcninjaguy]

If Everest doesn't work can you try PC wizard 2009.

I would also like you to try running this program here , ATI tool for at least 20 minutes and tell me if you get nay errors. This program will show if your video card's ram is faulty or unstable.

[DarkxStrife]

Idle
Hardware Monitoring : Fintek F71882FG
Voltage CPU : 1.21 V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.36 V
+5V Voltage : 5.09 V
+12V Voltage : 12.23 V
SB : 3.34 V
VBAT : 3.09 V
VIN2 : 1.65 V
VIN3 : 0.61 V
VIN6 : 1.81 V

After about 2 hours of play
Hardware Monitoring : Fintek F71882FG
Voltage CPU : 1.21 V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.33 V
+5V Voltage : 5.09 V
+12V Voltage : 12.14 V
SB : 3.36 V
VBAT : 3.07 V
VIN2 : 1.66 V
VIN3 : 0.62 V
VIN6 : 1.81 V

i ran the ati tool for 31-32 minutes and it said no errors.

[DarkxStrife]

Ok update. Its happening with Left4Dead too. So now i know it isnt a game problem, its a hardware problem. And now im really depressed about this. what can i do?

[Cdx]

Hello again,

I would try to swap graphic cards, if you have a friend or can borrow one. I see that you mentioned your drivers, this is either your graphic card going out, or your drivers are corrupted. That would be my assumption.

[DarkxStrife]

i didnt know my graphic card could go out. So should i try switching drivers again or opt for a new video card...

[Mcninjaguy]

Try swapping out video cards. This is artifacting and most likely your video cards ram is messed up and beyond repair. If your video card is still under manufacturer's warranty you can try sending it back to them for a new replacement.

this is a called a RMA.

First see if you can borrow a friends graphic card. If it fixes the issue you know that your current graphics card is defunct.

[Horusrogue]

Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy

Try swapping out video cards. This is artifacting and most likely your video cards ram is messed up and beyond repair. If your video card is still under manufacturer's warranty you can try sending it back to them for a new replacement.

this is a called a RMA.

First see if you can borrow a friends graphic card. If it fixes the issue you know that your current graphics card is defunct.

Could also be system memory. Hitting a corrupt section of a memory module under load might trigger this as well. I would accompany the
1. ATI TOOL suggestion with a MEMTEST run
2. Swap out video cards.

[Mcninjaguy]

Make sure that when you do a memtest86 run you use only one stick of ram installed at a time or it can give false errors.

Memtest86 ISO
Use imgburn to make a bootable disk

[DarkxStrife]

ok so i make a bootable disk from memtest86 and use it to boot. what's supposed to happen. and what do i do with ati tool?

Sorry im not really familiar with all these applications