Counter Strike source Problem!

Warfare · 07-29-2009, 07:53 PM

Recently I have been noticing that my FPS in Counterstrike Source is VERY low.

I play Crysis on High with about 60-70 FPS during a recon mission and about 40-50 in a heavy firefight.

I used a fps config to get everything to the lowest possible setting in CS:S and even made sure everything is on LOW I still only get about 100-150. When people I play with have worse cards than me and they are getting ~300.

I've Tried Restarting, Updating Drivers, Defraging.
I don't know what to do anymore..

Thanks for the help in advance!

P.S.
My CPU is actually 3.2 Ghz

Cdx · 07-29-2009, 08:39 PM

Hello Warfare,

can you post your system specs, including your PSU.

Also click on "Steps before Posting" in my signature and follow those instructions.

Let us know the results.

Warfare · 07-29-2009, 09:39 PM

If you look below my name my setup is in there.

Cdx · 07-29-2009, 09:43 PM

Hello again,

Have you followed all of the steps in the "Steps before Posting link"?

Ensure your DirectX is up to date. You can download the update from my signature.

Also are you connecting to servers that are low ping for you, local servers, under 100 ping.

Warfare · 07-29-2009, 09:46 PM

Yes, I have updated everything that I could think of short of BIOS.

I tried reinstalling also, no avail.

Cdx · 07-29-2009, 09:54 PM

Hmm,

Maybe your computer is overheating,

Try downloading Speedfan and tell me the temps when its idle, then temps 5 mins into playing CSS

Warfare · 07-29-2009, 10:12 PM

about from your post untill this current post

**Aus_Karlos** · 07-30-2009, 12:39 AM

Can you please post your full Power Supply specs. Due to the fact a 650W PSU is boarder line for the 200 series and the fact your pushing your GPU and PSU to its limits with trying to render 300fps (Eyes can't tell the difference past 60fps) the PSU's output has probably dropped.

Could you also post a screen of your voltages while playing a gam in Windowed Mode. (When minimized games tend to use less power)

Warfare · 07-30-2009, 08:33 AM

hmm.. I was told by someone here that my PSU would be find for the 250.

I'll try to edit this post with the voltages

Hope these are the voltages your looking for..

BTW, This is about 15 minutes ingame.

**Aus_Karlos** · 07-31-2009, 01:17 AM

Those voltages are fine.
The latest graphical drivers have introduced new features one of them is called Ambient Occlusion. This feature improves shadows through alpha textures (fences or any transparent textures), also controls ambient light making game lighting more realistic. This feature uses more GPU power and can make your card render less frames.

Also different drivers will have different impacts on different computer systems. Try using older drivers.

Last note, +100fps is excellent for any game.

Warfare · 07-31-2009, 10:30 AM

Well someone who has a 8800 GTS should NEVER be getting more FPS than a 250 GTS OCed.

I don't see how a 8800could ever beat a 250.. since a 250 is a rebadged 9800 GTX.

**Aus_Karlos** · 07-31-2009, 06:18 PM

Frame rate depends on more than just the graphics card. CPU, RAM and PSU play important factors in the rendering of frames.
Your E6750 will be bottlenecking your card for one thing as i use to own that CPU with my GTX280.
But like i said the most recent drivers have new features that are enabled on the GPU which will be using processor time hence less frames.
Have you rolledback a few driver versions.

07-29-2009, 07:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Warfare Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 436 OS: Win7 Ultimate 64bit My System	Counter Strike source Problem! Recently I have been noticing that my FPS in Counterstrike Source is VERY low. I play Crysis on High with about 60-70 FPS during a recon mission and about 40-50 in a heavy firefight. I used a fps config to get everything to the lowest possible setting in CS:S and even made sure everything is on LOW I still only get about 100-150. When people I play with have worse cards than me and they are getting ~300. I've Tried Restarting, Updating Drivers, Defraging. I don't know what to do anymore.. Thanks for the help in advance! P.S. My CPU is actually 3.2 Ghz Last edited by Warfare; 07-29-2009 at 07:56 PM.

07-29-2009, 08:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cdx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California Posts: 441 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate/Vista/XP/Unix My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Hello Warfare, can you post your system specs, including your PSU. Also click on "Steps before Posting" in my signature and follow those instructions. Let us know the results. __________________ Steps Before Posting Downloads: DirectX Nvidia Drivers ATI Drivers Speedfan Revo Uninstaller NOD32 Anti-Virus Trial

07-29-2009, 09:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Warfare Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 436 OS: Win7 Ultimate 64bit My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! If you look below my name my setup is in there.

07-29-2009, 09:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cdx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California Posts: 441 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate/Vista/XP/Unix My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Hello again, Have you followed all of the steps in the "Steps before Posting link"? Ensure your DirectX is up to date. You can download the update from my signature. Also are you connecting to servers that are low ping for you, local servers, under 100 ping. __________________ Steps Before Posting Downloads: DirectX Nvidia Drivers ATI Drivers Speedfan Revo Uninstaller NOD32 Anti-Virus Trial

07-29-2009, 09:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Warfare Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 436 OS: Win7 Ultimate 64bit My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Yes, I have updated everything that I could think of short of BIOS. I tried reinstalling also, no avail.

07-29-2009, 09:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cdx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: California Posts: 441 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate/Vista/XP/Unix My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Hmm, Maybe your computer is overheating, Try downloading Speedfan and tell me the temps when its idle, then temps 5 mins into playing CSS __________________ Steps Before Posting Downloads: DirectX Nvidia Drivers ATI Drivers Speedfan Revo Uninstaller NOD32 Anti-Virus Trial

07-29-2009, 10:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Warfare Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 436 OS: Win7 Ultimate 64bit My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! about from your post untill this current post

07-30-2009, 12:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Aus_Karlos Senior Tech, Games Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,899 OS: Windows XP 32-bit/64-bit, Ubuntu x64, Windows 7 x64 My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Can you please post your full Power Supply specs. Due to the fact a 650W PSU is boarder line for the 200 series and the fact your pushing your GPU and PSU to its limits with trying to render 300fps (Eyes can't tell the difference past 60fps) the PSU's output has probably dropped. Could you also post a screen of your voltages while playing a gam in Windowed Mode. (When minimized games tend to use less power) __________________ MemTest86 / Nvidia Drivers / ATI Drivers / DirectX 9.0c / Sys Requirements / Everest

07-30-2009, 08:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
Warfare Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 436 OS: Win7 Ultimate 64bit My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! hmm.. I was told by someone here that my PSU would be find for the 250. I'll try to edit this post with the voltages Hope these are the voltages your looking for.. BTW, This is about 15 minutes ingame. Last edited by Warfare; 07-30-2009 at 08:50 AM.

07-31-2009, 01:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Aus_Karlos Senior Tech, Games Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,899 OS: Windows XP 32-bit/64-bit, Ubuntu x64, Windows 7 x64 My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Those voltages are fine. The latest graphical drivers have introduced new features one of them is called Ambient Occlusion. This feature improves shadows through alpha textures (fences or any transparent textures), also controls ambient light making game lighting more realistic. This feature uses more GPU power and can make your card render less frames. Also different drivers will have different impacts on different computer systems. Try using older drivers. Last note, +100fps is excellent for any game. __________________ MemTest86 / Nvidia Drivers / ATI Drivers / DirectX 9.0c / Sys Requirements / Everest

07-31-2009, 10:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Warfare Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 436 OS: Win7 Ultimate 64bit My System	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Well someone who has a 8800 GTS should NEVER be getting more FPS than a 250 GTS OCed. I don't see how a 8800could ever beat a 250.. since a 250 is a rebadged 9800 GTX.

07-31-2009, 06:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Aus_Karlos Senior Tech, Games Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,899 OS: Windows XP 32-bit/64-bit, Ubuntu x64, Windows 7 x64 My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: Counter Strike source Problem! Frame rate depends on more than just the graphics card. CPU, RAM and PSU play important factors in the rendering of frames. Your E6750 will be bottlenecking your card for one thing as i use to own that CPU with my GTX280. But like i said the most recent drivers have new features that are enabled on the GPU which will be using processor time hence less frames. Have you rolledback a few driver versions. __________________ MemTest86 / Nvidia Drivers / ATI Drivers / DirectX 9.0c / Sys Requirements / Everest