Computers instant crash problem when playing games.

Foldeath · 07-24-2009, 06:24 PM

First, sorry for my bad english.
Secondly I didnt know where else to put this.

So my problem appears when I play new pc games such as Left 4 dead, prototype, dead space, red alert 3 and some other less good looking games.

When I start to play the game might crash in some point randomly, maeby 20 mins or maeby 2 hours. Computer just shuts down instantly and doesnt do anything else, no reboot, no bluescreen, no ewen 1 second jamming before it, it just shuts down pc.

I dont understand what the problem is because it cant be overheating and not a overclocking problem.

I have 750w power, 3ghz amd phenom black edition (with v8 cooler master), zotac geforce gtx 260(with Arctic Cooling gtx 280 cooler), 3 fans in case and case opened from side, temperatures when gaming are 42-45 c at gpu and 45-49 with cpu.

4 gigs of ddr2 ram (1066 but I use it at 800[bios reconmends it on auto] because it might cause bluescreen when I use it at 1066), I have runned memtest and have lastest drivers to graphic card, bios has been updated to lastest one from msi homepage( msi k9n2 platinum).

Seriously I just dont understand why it keeps doing this, it doesnt do it ewer when I use computer normally even when I dont boot my pc for week or two.
Modelling with 3ds max 09, zbrush and mudbox dont do any problems even with 50 000 000 polygons and neather does rendering. Using windows xp with sp 2.

So I would be really gratefull if you could help me with this.
Thank you.

**Lord Sirian** · 07-24-2009, 10:30 PM

Hi and welcome to TSF.

First follow these steps:

http://www.techsupportforum.com/gaming-forum/pc-gaming-support/120411-important-please-follow-these-steps-before-posting.html

**floop12444** · 07-25-2009, 03:16 AM

What brand is your PSU? To power the gtx 260 you need a very good PSU.

Foldeath · 07-25-2009, 04:36 AM

Well if you are talking about driver issues etc. in that I must say that I have installed ewery single driver needed for games. Dx 9 (tried dx 10 hax aswell), computer has been cleaned from virukses many times and reinstalled aswell couple of times. ( I have myself build up this pc with 1000€ and this is the first time I get this problem and even my ex classmates cant help me with this (3 years of data communications and electronics).
And neather does my classmates now from audiovisual game makers. And once again I have tried multiple drivers for everything I have on pc so it cant be that. If you meaned I could have posted this to wrong section, where this belongs then?

Foldeath · 07-25-2009, 04:41 AM

I have the Advance Switching Power Supply, 750w silencieuse.
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1385...-power-un.html

**Lord Sirian** · 07-25-2009, 05:11 AM

I was not talking only of driver issues.

If you follow the link in my previous post, there will be steps outlined for you to take.

Foldeath · 07-25-2009, 05:15 AM

I just post these once more.

* Power Supply – Advance Switching Power Supply, 750w silencieuse.

* Motherboard – Msi K9N2 platinum.

* CPU – Amd Phenom 64 x4 Black Edition (3 Ghz)
(Cooler replaced with - Cooler Master V8)

* RAM – OCZ PC-ram Gold Edition Dual Channel 2 x 2 Gt DDR2-1066 PC2-8500 CL5

* Video Card(s) – ZOTAC GeForce GTX 260² - 896 Mt DDR3 - PCI-Express 2.0
(Cooler replaced with - Arctic Cooling Accelero XTREME GTX 280)

* Hard Drive(s) – 500 Gb

* Operating System - Windows XP Pro Sp2 32 Bit

Dx- 10
Video bios version - 62.00.38.00.01
Driver version - 186.18
Motherboard Bios - Updated to lastest version from homepage.

Mcninjaguy · 07-25-2009, 05:51 AM

Hello Foldeath,

Yes your PSU is junk you should be running this PSU. It has no specs for any of the site I've seen. Most likely I would probably compare it to a Corsair 400w PSU based on that that it provides no product info which is always the case when I can't find specs on a PSU.

Corsair 750w
£91.98

Foldeath · 07-25-2009, 05:57 AM

If you mean those steps 1 - 10 theres no help of them at all. Have been trying those "fixes" like last 3 months

Foldeath · 07-25-2009, 06:03 AM

Thank you, I have been thinking that it could be it. What do you think could I use the psu if I drob the clocks to minimum with gpu and cpu untill I get the new one, could that help with the shutting down?

**Lord Sirian** · 07-25-2009, 06:04 AM

Ok, as Mcninjaguy said, your PSU is bad.

The one he recommended is good quality and much better than your current one.

Mcninjaguy · 07-25-2009, 06:50 AM

The downclocking may help and avoiding playing too many games will help too. I don't want to hear that your PSU has fried and burnt the rest of your components.

07-24-2009, 06:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Foldeath Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows Xp	Computers instant crash problem when playing games. First, sorry for my bad english. Secondly I didnt know where else to put this. So my problem appears when I play new pc games such as Left 4 dead, prototype, dead space, red alert 3 and some other less good looking games. When I start to play the game might crash in some point randomly, maeby 20 mins or maeby 2 hours. Computer just shuts down instantly and doesnt do anything else, no reboot, no bluescreen, no ewen 1 second jamming before it, it just shuts down pc. I dont understand what the problem is because it cant be overheating and not a overclocking problem. I have 750w power, 3ghz amd phenom black edition (with v8 cooler master), zotac geforce gtx 260(with Arctic Cooling gtx 280 cooler), 3 fans in case and case opened from side, temperatures when gaming are 42-45 c at gpu and 45-49 with cpu. 4 gigs of ddr2 ram (1066 but I use it at 800[bios reconmends it on auto] because it might cause bluescreen when I use it at 1066), I have runned memtest and have lastest drivers to graphic card, bios has been updated to lastest one from msi homepage( msi k9n2 platinum). Seriously I just dont understand why it keeps doing this, it doesnt do it ewer when I use computer normally even when I dont boot my pc for week or two. Modelling with 3ds max 09, zbrush and mudbox dont do any problems even with 50 000 000 polygons and neather does rendering. Using windows xp with sp 2. So I would be really gratefull if you could help me with this. Thank you.

07-24-2009, 10:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lord Sirian Mentor, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,615 OS: Windows XP SP 3 My System	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. Hi and welcome to TSF. First follow these steps: http://www.techsupportforum.com/gaming-forum/pc-gaming-support/120411-important-please-follow-these-steps-before-posting.html __________________ "Come forth for the cattle call Confront the evil river you can't control Wicked ways and venomous eyes Just human nature in disguise..."- Clouds over California

07-25-2009, 03:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
floop12444 Senior Tech, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Posts: 957 OS: Windows XP SP3 My System	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. What brand is your PSU? To power the gtx 260 you need a very good PSU. __________________ Everest Home Edtion ♦ System requirements test ♦ Nvidia Drivers ♦ ATI Drivers ♦ Revo Uninstaller ♦ GPUz Forum Rules Steps Before Posting

07-25-2009, 04:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Foldeath Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows Xp	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. Well if you are talking about driver issues etc. in that I must say that I have installed ewery single driver needed for games. Dx 9 (tried dx 10 hax aswell), computer has been cleaned from virukses many times and reinstalled aswell couple of times. ( I have myself build up this pc with 1000€ and this is the first time I get this problem and even my ex classmates cant help me with this (3 years of data communications and electronics). And neather does my classmates now from audiovisual game makers. And once again I have tried multiple drivers for everything I have on pc so it cant be that. If you meaned I could have posted this to wrong section, where this belongs then?

07-25-2009, 04:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Foldeath Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows Xp	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. I have the Advance Switching Power Supply, 750w silencieuse. http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1385...-power-un.html

07-25-2009, 05:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lord Sirian Mentor, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,615 OS: Windows XP SP 3 My System	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. I was not talking only of driver issues. If you follow the link in my previous post, there will be steps outlined for you to take. __________________ "Come forth for the cattle call Confront the evil river you can't control Wicked ways and venomous eyes Just human nature in disguise..."- Clouds over California

07-25-2009, 05:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
Foldeath Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows Xp	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. I just post these once more. * Power Supply – Advance Switching Power Supply, 750w silencieuse. * Motherboard – Msi K9N2 platinum. * CPU – Amd Phenom 64 x4 Black Edition (3 Ghz) (Cooler replaced with - Cooler Master V8) * RAM – OCZ PC-ram Gold Edition Dual Channel 2 x 2 Gt DDR2-1066 PC2-8500 CL5 * Video Card(s) – ZOTAC GeForce GTX 260² - 896 Mt DDR3 - PCI-Express 2.0 (Cooler replaced with - Arctic Cooling Accelero XTREME GTX 280) * Hard Drive(s) – 500 Gb * Operating System - Windows XP Pro Sp2 32 Bit Dx- 10 Video bios version - 62.00.38.00.01 Driver version - 186.18 Motherboard Bios - Updated to lastest version from homepage.

07-25-2009, 05:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. Hello Foldeath, Yes your PSU is junk you should be running this PSU. It has no specs for any of the site I've seen. Most likely I would probably compare it to a Corsair 400w PSU based on that that it provides no product info which is always the case when I can't find specs on a PSU. Corsair 750w £91.98

07-25-2009, 05:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
Foldeath Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows Xp	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. If you mean those steps 1 - 10 theres no help of them at all. Have been trying those "fixes" like last 3 months

07-25-2009, 06:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Foldeath Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Windows Xp	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. Thank you, I have been thinking that it could be it. What do you think could I use the psu if I drob the clocks to minimum with gpu and cpu untill I get the new one, could that help with the shutting down?

07-25-2009, 06:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
Lord Sirian Mentor, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,615 OS: Windows XP SP 3 My System	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. Ok, as Mcninjaguy said, your PSU is bad. The one he recommended is good quality and much better than your current one. __________________ "Come forth for the cattle call Confront the evil river you can't control Wicked ways and venomous eyes Just human nature in disguise..."- Clouds over California

07-25-2009, 06:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Computers instant crash problem when playing games. The downclocking may help and avoiding playing too many games will help too. I don't want to hear that your PSU has fried and burnt the rest of your components.