Good Computer for Gaming???

GucciMane · 05-28-2009, 06:42 PM

iHi all,i'm not so computer savvy and was wondering if you guys could tell me if these systems i've been looking at can handle big games like Empire:Total War or large maps on Civilization.

First,

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....egories&ks=960

Second,

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218068107386

The dude at best buy said gateway kills HP in gaming, but i don't know...
Recommend me some good gaming computers if you want!Thanks

GoSuNi · 05-28-2009, 08:25 PM

Gateway seems promising. HP computers usually never let you overclock in the BIOS.

**Tyree** · 05-28-2009, 08:32 PM

First, do not place your trust in the Best Buy guy. If you must buy a PC, to a local PC shop and get some prices.
Prebuilt PC's tend to use low quality hardware and are not upgrade friendly. Basically, what you buy is what you'll have.
Reputable custom builders will use quality parts and can build the PC to suit your specific needs with and it will be upgradeable.
Have you considered building your own?
If I absolutely positively HAD to purchase a prebuilt PC it would be a Dell.

**RockmasteR** · 05-29-2009, 02:33 AM

I agree with Tyree about Custom PCs but not about DELL!!
you really need an advice?
not a single prebuilt PCs are good, even XPS or Alienware, imho, why?
- Too expensive
- Weak Power Supplies
and not so well hardware parts

as for the 2 PCs you are thinking of:
the HP have a Geforce 9100 (integrated) very bad for gaming
and the price is not that good
and the Gateway, did not show what the Video Card is!!
bad bad bad
you really want to play games? Then it's not about the CPU, it's about the GPU (video Card)
the CPU plays a good part but not like the Video Card
so go on and build your own PC, it'll be better, and if you need any help picking the parts and building it, we can help

**Jason09** · 05-29-2009, 05:59 PM

I've used Dell computers for gaming, so I would go with Dell.

Zealex · 05-29-2009, 07:23 PM

Doesn't dell own alienware?I went on Dell's site and there was alienware ads in the gaming section...I don't think a competitor would let a competitor advertise on their site.

Zombeast · 05-30-2009, 02:34 PM

yah dell owns alienware. i was shocked when i found it out

Mcninjaguy · 05-30-2009, 10:16 PM

I wouldn't go with Dell or Alienware either. You can make a better PC than them for 25% less.

Zombeast · 05-31-2009, 09:48 AM

alien ware is garbage if you look at the price difference

jrockpunk1 · 05-31-2009, 10:04 AM

If you won't build one, get a dell XPS 420 or something. Or get one of the ones you saw and upgrade the graphics card.

Zombeast · 05-31-2009, 12:02 PM

but xps are still kinda expensive. and i thought dell blocked you out of the bios so you cant overclock it

Souptard · 05-31-2009, 12:02 PM

Go to doghousesystems.com they have great gaming computers for under 1000 dollars

Zombeast · 05-31-2009, 12:26 PM

i just built my friend a great gaming computer with all the little showoffs added on for around $700 it looks pretty sick and runs games really good

**Jason09** · 05-31-2009, 02:26 PM

Settings can be changed on Dell computers in the BIOS screen, at least on mine.

Mcninjaguy · 05-31-2009, 08:24 PM

I would never tell someone to get a dell right away. Sure Dells are cheap but they can't really be upgraded and to get the most out of a computer they should be upgradable.

Zealex · 06-01-2009, 04:44 PM

When you get an alienware, you pay for bragging rights for people who don't know better xD.
They have nice cases thou....but you can buy better.
Lol, anyone ever seen the acer predator...talk about overpriced and spending money on stuff you don't need...
http://www.acer.com/predator/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883103196

Zombeast · 06-01-2009, 07:02 PM

wow $2800, you can build such a better computer for way less a price, probobly 2 realy good computers

valdor4 · 06-01-2009, 08:58 PM

Never go prebuilt, expensive and low quality. If you have some money to spend check out www.digitalstormonline.com. Great comps, but pricey because of the quality, and they overclock for you and are very stable. Also check out http://www.ibuypower.com/ for some cheaper base computers, but still better than anything you will find at best buy. Hope this helped

Zealex · 06-02-2009, 03:56 PM

those two sites are horrible....high end computers with low end parts, besides 75% people say the computer doesn't even work when it comes in the mail.
Threadstarter just build a comp I have a build some guy named oldjoe recommended to me, we have a section for building a computer.

Mcninjaguy · 06-02-2009, 06:47 PM

Build your computer, you won't regret getting a fast custom computer that has quality parts for cheaper than a pre-built one

05-28-2009, 06:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
GucciMane Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Vista Home Premium	Good Computer for Gaming??? iHi all,i'm not so computer savvy and was wondering if you guys could tell me if these systems i've been looking at can handle big games like Empire:Total War or large maps on Civilization. First, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....egories&ks=960 Second, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218068107386 The dude at best buy said gateway kills HP in gaming, but i don't know... Recommend me some good gaming computers if you want!Thanks Last edited by GucciMane; 05-28-2009 at 06:44 PM.

05-28-2009, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
GoSuNi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 296 OS: Windows Vista: Home Premium My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? Gateway seems promising. HP computers usually never let you overclock in the BIOS.

05-28-2009, 08:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,496 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? First, do not place your trust in the Best Buy guy. If you must buy a PC, to a local PC shop and get some prices. Prebuilt PC's tend to use low quality hardware and are not upgrade friendly. Basically, what you buy is what you'll have. Reputable custom builders will use quality parts and can build the PC to suit your specific needs with and it will be upgradeable. Have you considered building your own? If I absolutely positively HAD to purchase a prebuilt PC it would be a Dell. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

05-29-2009, 02:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
RockmasteR Moderator, Games Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lebanon Posts: 3,139 OS: Vista Ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? I agree with Tyree about Custom PCs but not about DELL!! you really need an advice? not a single prebuilt PCs are good, even XPS or Alienware, imho, why? - Too expensive - Weak Power Supplies and not so well hardware parts as for the 2 PCs you are thinking of: the HP have a Geforce 9100 (integrated) very bad for gaming and the price is not that good and the Gateway, did not show what the Video Card is!! bad bad bad you really want to play games? Then it's not about the CPU, it's about the GPU (video Card) the CPU plays a good part but not like the Video Card so go on and build your own PC, it'll be better, and if you need any help picking the parts and building it, we can help __________________ CPUz GPUz Nvidia Drivers ATI Drivers System Information for Windows (SIW) Revo Uninstaller RivaTuner ATITOOL Directx 9.0C !!Please don't PM me for Tech Support!!

05-29-2009, 05:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jason09 Moderator, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Near Washington, D.C. Posts: 2,331 OS: Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? I've used Dell computers for gaming, so I would go with Dell. __________________ Gaming troubleshooting steps. RIP Abe Pollin; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112402796.html Real peace cannot be found in what happens in Washington, D.C. Only God can give true peace to people.

05-29-2009, 07:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zealex Tech, Games Team Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,145 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit SP2 My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? Doesn't dell own alienware?I went on Dell's site and there was alienware ads in the gaming section...I don't think a competitor would let a competitor advertise on their site.

05-30-2009, 02:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Zombeast Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 364 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? yah dell owns alienware. i was shocked when i found it out __________________ Steam Friends Name: Zombeast69 Add me : D

05-30-2009, 10:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? I wouldn't go with Dell or Alienware either. You can make a better PC than them for 25% less.

05-31-2009, 09:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Zombeast Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 364 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? alien ware is garbage if you look at the price difference __________________ Steam Friends Name: Zombeast69 Add me : D

05-31-2009, 10:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
jrockpunk1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 494 OS: winXP My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? If you won't build one, get a dell XPS 420 or something. Or get one of the ones you saw and upgrade the graphics card.

05-31-2009, 12:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Zombeast Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 364 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? but xps are still kinda expensive. and i thought dell blocked you out of the bios so you cant overclock it __________________ Steam Friends Name: Zombeast69 Add me : D

05-31-2009, 12:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Souptard Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 OS: Vista	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? Go to doghousesystems.com they have great gaming computers for under 1000 dollars

05-31-2009, 12:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zombeast Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 364 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? i just built my friend a great gaming computer with all the little showoffs added on for around $700 it looks pretty sick and runs games really good __________________ Steam Friends Name: Zombeast69 Add me : D

05-31-2009, 02:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jason09 Moderator, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Near Washington, D.C. Posts: 2,331 OS: Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? Settings can be changed on Dell computers in the BIOS screen, at least on mine. __________________ Gaming troubleshooting steps. RIP Abe Pollin; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112402796.html Real peace cannot be found in what happens in Washington, D.C. Only God can give true peace to people.

05-31-2009, 08:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? I would never tell someone to get a dell right away. Sure Dells are cheap but they can't really be upgraded and to get the most out of a computer they should be upgradable.

06-01-2009, 04:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
Zealex Tech, Games Team Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,145 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit SP2 My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? When you get an alienware, you pay for bragging rights for people who don't know better xD. They have nice cases thou....but you can buy better. Lol, anyone ever seen the acer predator...talk about overpriced and spending money on stuff you don't need... http://www.acer.com/predator/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883103196 __________________ Xfire Steam Nvidia Drivers ATI Drivers DirectX 9.0c Game-O-Meter System Information for Windows(SIW) Revo Uninstaller

06-01-2009, 07:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Zombeast Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 364 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? wow $2800, you can build such a better computer for way less a price, probobly 2 realy good computers __________________ Steam Friends Name: Zombeast69 Add me : D

06-01-2009, 08:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
valdor4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8 OS: xp sp2	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? Never go prebuilt, expensive and low quality. If you have some money to spend check out www.digitalstormonline.com. Great comps, but pricey because of the quality, and they overclock for you and are very stable. Also check out http://www.ibuypower.com/ for some cheaper base computers, but still better than anything you will find at best buy. Hope this helped

06-02-2009, 03:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
Zealex Tech, Games Team Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,145 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit SP2 My System	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? those two sites are horrible....high end computers with low end parts, besides 75% people say the computer doesn't even work when it comes in the mail. Threadstarter just build a comp I have a build some guy named oldjoe recommended to me, we have a section for building a computer. __________________ Xfire Steam Nvidia Drivers ATI Drivers DirectX 9.0c Game-O-Meter System Information for Windows(SIW) Revo Uninstaller Last edited by Zealex; 06-02-2009 at 03:57 PM.

06-02-2009, 06:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Good Computer for Gaming??? Build your computer, you won't regret getting a fast custom computer that has quality parts for cheaper than a pre-built one