Crashing issues

stirfriedsushi · 09-13-2008, 08:12 PM

I am having an issue with my new PC and i cannot figure out what the problem could be. During bioshock and the witcher, i get crashes and i cannot figure out why.

My configuration is as follows:

CPU: e8500 3.16 GHz
GPU: Radeon HD 4850 (2x in crossfire)
MOBO: Foxconn blackops (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000385)
OS: windows XP SP3
RAM: OCZ reaper gaming ram, 4 gb
HDD: 2x WD 640 gb, in raid 0

I have run memtest and confirmed that my RAM was not the issue, but my board was undervolting it. I have also done multiple CPU and GPU tests using Orthos, ATItool, rthdribl, and burnintest. (i gave the last 1 to itomix to upload)

LINK TO TEST IMAGES: http://s365.photobucket.com/albums/oo97/stirfriedsushi/

As you can see by the images, my temps are all normal and burnintest has given me no errors except for 2d graphics and that 1 is because of something else (i confirmed with passmark people)

I have multiple tools to control fanspeed (Aegis pannel and rivatuner) so i am pretty sure there is no overheating.

The one anomaly i have noticed is when i am playing bioshock, i get random drops in gpu usage (all the way to 0) as shown in the gpu monitoring image called GPU drops. I don't get this during any other GPU test. The witcher crashed the entire machine and i am sure GPU temps were normal.

Can anyone think of any other reason that this could be happening? any help i get will be greatly appreciated.

**Aus_Karlos** · 09-13-2008, 08:46 PM

Hi stirfriedsushi and welcome to TSF,
What make and model of Power Supply do you have?

stirfriedsushi · 09-13-2008, 10:07 PM

Can you explain how the power supply would be the issue? i know i am getting enough power, its a 750 watt power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006

there is a link to newegg, but how could that be causing the problem????

**Aus_Karlos** · 09-14-2008, 12:05 AM

Insufficient Power to hardware components can be damaging, Cause graphical artifacts, slow performance, overheating, random crashes, BSOD and fail to boot.

However you seem to have a rock-solid PSU so thats not the problem..

But i have found that with the installation of SP3 i loose about 20% in performance and got many BSOD. Try uninstalling it and see what happens..
*Note: You dont have to do this as SP3 does add new security features but personally i found it has caused more problems than fixed them*

stirfriedsushi · 09-14-2008, 12:45 PM

so you think it's my windows install? I am doubtful because my friend is using SP3 as well and he is having no issues. We even used the exact same install disk (just different activation keys) I want to exhaust all other options before i reformat. is there anything else that could be causing this problem?

**Aus_Karlos** · 09-15-2008, 03:01 AM

You do not need to format your HDD to get rid of SP3.
It is listed under the un-install programs in Control panel.

09-13-2008, 08:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
stirfriedsushi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 OS: XP SP3	Crashing issues I am having an issue with my new PC and i cannot figure out what the problem could be. During bioshock and the witcher, i get crashes and i cannot figure out why. My configuration is as follows: CPU: e8500 3.16 GHz GPU: Radeon HD 4850 (2x in crossfire) MOBO: Foxconn blackops (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000385) OS: windows XP SP3 RAM: OCZ reaper gaming ram, 4 gb HDD: 2x WD 640 gb, in raid 0 I have run memtest and confirmed that my RAM was not the issue, but my board was undervolting it. I have also done multiple CPU and GPU tests using Orthos, ATItool, rthdribl, and burnintest. (i gave the last 1 to itomix to upload) LINK TO TEST IMAGES: http://s365.photobucket.com/albums/oo97/stirfriedsushi/ As you can see by the images, my temps are all normal and burnintest has given me no errors except for 2d graphics and that 1 is because of something else (i confirmed with passmark people) I have multiple tools to control fanspeed (Aegis pannel and rivatuner) so i am pretty sure there is no overheating. The one anomaly i have noticed is when i am playing bioshock, i get random drops in gpu usage (all the way to 0) as shown in the gpu monitoring image called GPU drops. I don't get this during any other GPU test. The witcher crashed the entire machine and i am sure GPU temps were normal. Can anyone think of any other reason that this could be happening? any help i get will be greatly appreciated.

09-13-2008, 08:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aus_Karlos Moderator, Games Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,458 OS: Vista Ultimate x64, Windows XP 32-bit/64-bit, Ubuntu x64, Windows 7 x64 Beta My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: Crashing issues Hi stirfriedsushi and welcome to TSF, What make and model of Power Supply do you have? __________________ MemTest86 / Nvidia Drivers / ATI Drivers / DirectX 9.0c / Sys Requirements / Everest Folding@Home

09-13-2008, 10:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
stirfriedsushi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 OS: XP SP3	Re: Crashing issues Can you explain how the power supply would be the issue? i know i am getting enough power, its a 750 watt power supply. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 there is a link to newegg, but how could that be causing the problem????

09-14-2008, 12:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
Aus_Karlos Moderator, Games Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,458 OS: Vista Ultimate x64, Windows XP 32-bit/64-bit, Ubuntu x64, Windows 7 x64 Beta My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: Crashing issues Insufficient Power to hardware components can be damaging, Cause graphical artifacts, slow performance, overheating, random crashes, BSOD and fail to boot. However you seem to have a rock-solid PSU so thats not the problem.. But i have found that with the installation of SP3 i loose about 20% in performance and got many BSOD. Try uninstalling it and see what happens.. Note: You dont have to do this as SP3 does add new security features but personally i found it has caused more problems than fixed them __________________ MemTest86 / Nvidia Drivers / ATI Drivers / DirectX 9.0c / Sys Requirements / Everest Folding@Home

09-14-2008, 12:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
stirfriedsushi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8 OS: XP SP3	Re: Crashing issues so you think it's my windows install? I am doubtful because my friend is using SP3 as well and he is having no issues. We even used the exact same install disk (just different activation keys) I want to exhaust all other options before i reformat. is there anything else that could be causing this problem? Last edited by stirfriedsushi; 09-14-2008 at 01:14 PM.

09-15-2008, 03:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Aus_Karlos Moderator, Games Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3,458 OS: Vista Ultimate x64, Windows XP 32-bit/64-bit, Ubuntu x64, Windows 7 x64 Beta My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: Crashing issues You do not need to format your HDD to get rid of SP3. It is listed under the un-install programs in Control panel. __________________ MemTest86 / Nvidia Drivers / ATI Drivers / DirectX 9.0c / Sys Requirements / Everest Folding@Home