Poor Performance?

ReaperOne1Two2 · 08-10-2008, 06:21 PM

Ok so it seems my computer constantly gets awful performance on most games. It's relativily new also.

I have a 671T-M motherboard. 2 Gig's of ram. A geforce 8500 graphics card. Pentium D 2.8 Ghz Processor dual core. I tried playing Assassins creed and get around 9 frames per second with everything set to lowest on 800x600 or lower resolution. Also I have a random beeping sound while running 3d applications. It is a random beep as far as I can tell and normally is accompined by a few frame skips or a slowdown. I get the beep on ANY application basically. My cpu temputure at it's peak is 70 degrees celsius. The beep also comes from the computer itself not the speakers. On games such as half life 2 with steam it will freeze the entire computer randomly. The frames per second on that are generally good. I have reinstalled the entire computer and monitored all temputures to no avail. I'm not sure if my voltages are fine. My best guess is it would be a cpu bottleneck as it always happens when the cpu gets to a higher point. I have all the latest drivers also. Even on less intensive games though that I easily get 100+ FPS it still will have the beep with the screen having a slight pause. Their's no tearing or such on the screen so I ruled out the graphics card being a problem. I have a 480 watt powersupply. The only thing I haven't tried so far is using vista which I doubt would help the problem. Anyone have suggestions?

**Jack.Sparrow** · 08-10-2008, 08:11 PM

Hi, welcome to TSF.

It seems you've pointed out 2 of the possible problems.

1. A weak PSU
2. Your processor.

It would be a good idea to check and post your voltages here. I have doubts as to if your current PSU is powerful enough for your system.

The CPU temp is, in my opinion, somewhat high but this can also be caused by a weak PSU.

You may use PC Wizard to check the voltages.

Along with your voltages, could you post your PSU make and model and the amps on the 12v line.

ReaperOne1Two2 · 08-11-2008, 10:55 AM

Voltage CPU : 4.08 V
+5V Voltage : 6.91 V
+12V Voltage : 17.96 V
VTT : 4.08 V
VBAT : 4.08 V

The model is LC - 480A.

ReaperOne1Two2 · 08-11-2008, 01:18 PM

Voltage CPU : 4.08 V
+5V Voltage : 6.91 V
+12V Voltage : 17.96 V
VTT : 4.08 V
VBAT : 4.08 V

These are what their at while sitting on desktop.

the +12v line says 18A -12v line says .8A

The model is LC - 480A.
480W ATX Power Supply
I believe it's a HYDRA.

**Jack.Sparrow** · 08-11-2008, 07:08 PM

The +12V reading it WAY too high. The PSU probably needs changing.

Enter your details into this calculator and see what sized PSU it recommeneds

ReaperOne1Two2 · 08-11-2008, 09:24 PM

Odd, I just looked again and my +12v is at 9.78.

ReaperOne1Two2 · 08-11-2008, 09:38 PM

Recommended PSU Wattage: 396W that's still lower then the 480W the one I have should be fine.

I see now. As soon as it goes to load anything the useage jumps to basically 18 on the 12v.

**Jack.Sparrow** · 08-12-2008, 04:15 AM

You should allow up to 30% extra on PSU's, which would mean 118.8w + 396 which is 514.8 , so your system should actually be running on a 550w PSU of decent quality. PSU's can actually loose wattage over time.

The 12v reading shouldn't actually go over 12.05 if the PSU has enough power. ***Correction: +12V should be in the 11.4V to 12.6V range

A weak PSU can actually damage the system, so even if this isn't the cause of your poor performance, I'd recommend replacing it.

Try and borrow a PSU (550w+) from a friend to see if it makes a difference.

ReaperOne1Two2 · 08-13-2008, 12:27 AM

New psu will be arriving for testing soon. Gonna test and see if it works if it does it's free. :) I'll let you know how it works out.

ReaperOne1Two2 · 09-10-2008, 05:24 PM

The problem was related to the power supply. I'll test the screen freezing now. Thx for the help. If it still crashes i'll let you know.

**Jack.Sparrow** · 09-10-2008, 06:33 PM

No prob's.

Sorry about the error in post 8. (Thanks to koala for fixing it too

)

ReaperOne1Two2 · 09-11-2008, 09:36 AM

Acually, I take that back its not fixed. It does run alot quicker now. But the beeping is just alot less but it crashes quicker now on applications. Time just to return the whole thing and buy from somewhere else it isen't worth the trouble anymore.

**Jack.Sparrow** · 09-11-2008, 07:32 PM

I'm sorry to hear that.

The only cause I can think of, is that the weak PSU actually damaged some of the other hardware components.

08-10-2008, 06:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Poor Performance? Ok so it seems my computer constantly gets awful performance on most games. It's relativily new also. I have a 671T-M motherboard. 2 Gig's of ram. A geforce 8500 graphics card. Pentium D 2.8 Ghz Processor dual core. I tried playing Assassins creed and get around 9 frames per second with everything set to lowest on 800x600 or lower resolution. Also I have a random beeping sound while running 3d applications. It is a random beep as far as I can tell and normally is accompined by a few frame skips or a slowdown. I get the beep on ANY application basically. My cpu temputure at it's peak is 70 degrees celsius. The beep also comes from the computer itself not the speakers. On games such as half life 2 with steam it will freeze the entire computer randomly. The frames per second on that are generally good. I have reinstalled the entire computer and monitored all temputures to no avail. I'm not sure if my voltages are fine. My best guess is it would be a cpu bottleneck as it always happens when the cpu gets to a higher point. I have all the latest drivers also. Even on less intensive games though that I easily get 100+ FPS it still will have the beep with the screen having a slight pause. Their's no tearing or such on the screen so I ruled out the graphics card being a problem. I have a 480 watt powersupply. The only thing I haven't tried so far is using vista which I doubt would help the problem. Anyone have suggestions?

08-10-2008, 08:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jack.Sparrow Resident Pirate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Qld, Aus Posts: 17,867 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1 My System Blog Entries: 6	Re: Poor Performance? Hi, welcome to TSF. It seems you've pointed out 2 of the possible problems. 1. A weak PSU 2. Your processor. It would be a good idea to check and post your voltages here. I have doubts as to if your current PSU is powerful enough for your system. The CPU temp is, in my opinion, somewhat high but this can also be caused by a weak PSU. You may use PC Wizard to check the voltages. Along with your voltages, could you post your PSU make and model and the amps on the 12v line. __________________ //PC Wizard//Speedfan//Can you run it?//Posting Screenshots//Posting System Specs//Donations//

08-11-2008, 10:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? Voltage CPU : 4.08 V +5V Voltage : 6.91 V +12V Voltage : 17.96 V VTT : 4.08 V VBAT : 4.08 V The model is LC - 480A.

08-11-2008, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? Voltage CPU : 4.08 V +5V Voltage : 6.91 V +12V Voltage : 17.96 V VTT : 4.08 V VBAT : 4.08 V These are what their at while sitting on desktop. the +12v line says 18A -12v line says .8A The model is LC - 480A. 480W ATX Power Supply I believe it's a HYDRA. Last edited by ReaperOne1Two2; 08-11-2008 at 01:25 PM.

08-11-2008, 07:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jack.Sparrow Resident Pirate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Qld, Aus Posts: 17,867 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1 My System Blog Entries: 6	Re: Poor Performance? The +12V reading it WAY too high. The PSU probably needs changing. Enter your details into this calculator and see what sized PSU it recommeneds __________________ //PC Wizard//Speedfan//Can you run it?//Posting Screenshots//Posting System Specs//Donations//

08-11-2008, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? Odd, I just looked again and my +12v is at 9.78.

08-11-2008, 09:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? Recommended PSU Wattage: 396W that's still lower then the 480W the one I have should be fine. I see now. As soon as it goes to load anything the useage jumps to basically 18 on the 12v. Last edited by ReaperOne1Two2; 08-11-2008 at 09:43 PM.

08-12-2008, 04:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jack.Sparrow Resident Pirate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Qld, Aus Posts: 17,867 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1 My System Blog Entries: 6	Re: Poor Performance? You should allow up to 30% extra on PSU's, which would mean 118.8w + 396 which is 514.8 , so your system should actually be running on a 550w PSU of decent quality. PSU's can actually loose wattage over time. The 12v reading shouldn't actually go over 12.05 if the PSU has enough power. **Correction: +12V should be in the 11.4V to 12.6V range A weak PSU can actually damage the system, so even if this isn't the cause of your poor performance, I'd recommend replacing it. Try and borrow a PSU (550w+) from a friend to see if it makes a difference. __________________ //PC Wizard//Speedfan//Can you run it?//Posting Screenshots//Posting System Specs//Donations// Last edited by koala; 08-12-2008 at 07:07 AM.*

08-13-2008, 12:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? New psu will be arriving for testing soon. Gonna test and see if it works if it does it's free. :) I'll let you know how it works out.

09-10-2008, 05:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? The problem was related to the power supply. I'll test the screen freezing now. Thx for the help. If it still crashes i'll let you know.

09-10-2008, 06:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jack.Sparrow Resident Pirate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Qld, Aus Posts: 17,867 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1 My System Blog Entries: 6	Re: Poor Performance? No prob's. Sorry about the error in post 8. (Thanks to koala for fixing it too ) __________________ //PC Wizard//Speedfan//Can you run it?//Posting Screenshots//Posting System Specs//Donations//

09-11-2008, 09:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
ReaperOne1Two2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 9 OS: Windows XP Professional	Re: Poor Performance? Acually, I take that back its not fixed. It does run alot quicker now. But the beeping is just alot less but it crashes quicker now on applications. Time just to return the whole thing and buy from somewhere else it isen't worth the trouble anymore.

09-11-2008, 07:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jack.Sparrow Resident Pirate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Qld, Aus Posts: 17,867 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1 My System Blog Entries: 6	Re: Poor Performance? I'm sorry to hear that. The only cause I can think of, is that the weak PSU actually damaged some of the other hardware components. __________________ //PC Wizard//Speedfan//Can you run it?//Posting Screenshots//Posting System Specs//Donations//