FPS range to wide

kalv · 06-16-2008, 02:24 AM

When im playing a game (specifically counter strike and half life game) i get 100 fps constantly when there is little action. Whenever there is action i get 10 - 40 fps, even if the only thing on my screen is a few players doing nothing. I have done the following...
-I have formatted and installed windows
-have up to date video drivers
-turned off unnecessary services
-only thing i have on is kaspersky antivirus

Here are my specs
Power Supply - Thermaltake TR2-430W, 430 watts, +12V rails... max. load(18 A), min. load(1.0A)
Motherboard - Asrock P4VM8, Socket 478 for Intel
CPU - Intel Celeron, 2.4 ghz
RAM - unknown brand, DDR-SDRAM, 512 mb+256 = 768mb
Video Card - Radeon x1650pro 512 mb AGP
Hard drive - Western Digital 80gb
Operating System - Windows XP Pro SP2

u551 · 06-16-2008, 12:39 PM

If youre talking about hl2 games and cs-source you may need to get a better cpu or more ram. I could hardly ever get over 30fps with athlon xp2800+ (even with a good vid card). If you mean half-life 1, then its a different matter.

kalv · 06-16-2008, 05:33 PM

im talking about half life 1

**af3** · 06-18-2008, 10:59 AM

The only thing you can do is lower the game's graphics settings and hope it helps. I used to have a Radeon x1600 Pro, and transparent objects on the desktop would dramatically affect the frame rate of my games. The solution to this was to take care of all the little bubbles coming out of my systray telling me about automatic updates. You could also set windows to performance mode, disabling all the GUI visual effects.

kalv · 06-18-2008, 08:01 PM

all the video settings are on low and nothing in the background is running except an anti virus and i tried turning that off but no success.

**af3** · 06-19-2008, 06:10 AM

Do the fans make more noise when the FPS drops? Maybe things are running too hot. You could also have a weak PSU/power box. If your computer's PSU can't supply enough juice to the hardware you have installed, things will slow down like you describe.

All I can suggest is update the drivers, get a better PSU, or even replace the video card.

**af3** · 06-19-2008, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u551

If youre talking about hl2 games and cs-source you may need to get a better cpu or more ram. I could hardly ever get over 30fps with athlon xp2800+ (even with a good vid card). If you mean half-life 1, then its a different matter.

Where did he say anything about an Athlon XP2800+?!

**beefers1** · 06-19-2008, 11:24 AM

aren't there frame limiters in most games which prevents it from going over 25, 30, 50 or 60FPS? the x1650 is a more-than-decent card, but you can do with a bit more RAM.

**af3** · 06-19-2008, 11:45 AM

For example, I think Quake 4 caps the FPS at 60.

Get the "SpeedFan" utility and take a look at it's temp readouts. It will have a flame icon near a reading that is too high.

http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

**beefers1** · 06-19-2008, 12:13 PM

one interesting thing is that GTA SA capped it at a mere 25FPS. so sometimes the game was choppy enough that i had to disable it. but in most cases, enabling a frame limiter is a very good idea.

**af3** · 06-19-2008, 12:14 PM

Maybe that had something to do with their original target console. (PS2) It appears to be a "straight port" of the game to PC, or an emulated version for the PC. (In my opinion) GTA2 also had a frame limiter. I remember when I bought my first nVidia card, and the cars were flying across the screen so fast that they were motion blurs!

SA:MP is fun too by the way.

**beefers1** · 06-19-2008, 12:19 PM

the gameplay was exactly the same, but the graphics and sound were updated for the PC version. and the controls too. The most i've hit without frame limiter is about 80 so it's not too bad, even a lot smoother.

kalv · 07-29-2008, 12:17 AM

my computer is really basic. I have very few things running and I disabled alot of services. So virtually im only running system services that are essential. There is no bubble that comes from the system tray. I think its a video card probably cause when my game starts to stutter my mouse pointer is still very smooth but my game is still stuttering.

**af3** · 07-29-2008, 06:00 AM

Yeah, the X1650PRO had plenty of glitches. My brother still uses it, but he has to run it on lower settings for stability in some games.

What's PRO about it?

06-16-2008, 02:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
kalv Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 101 OS: xp	FPS range to wide When im playing a game (specifically counter strike and half life game) i get 100 fps constantly when there is little action. Whenever there is action i get 10 - 40 fps, even if the only thing on my screen is a few players doing nothing. I have done the following... -I have formatted and installed windows -have up to date video drivers -turned off unnecessary services -only thing i have on is kaspersky antivirus Here are my specs Power Supply - Thermaltake TR2-430W, 430 watts, +12V rails... max. load(18 A), min. load(1.0A) Motherboard - Asrock P4VM8, Socket 478 for Intel CPU - Intel Celeron, 2.4 ghz RAM - unknown brand, DDR-SDRAM, 512 mb+256 = 768mb Video Card - Radeon x1650pro 512 mb AGP Hard drive - Western Digital 80gb Operating System - Windows XP Pro SP2

06-16-2008, 12:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
u551 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 197 OS: WinXP, sp2 My System	Re: FPS range to wide If youre talking about hl2 games and cs-source you may need to get a better cpu or more ram. I could hardly ever get over 30fps with athlon xp2800+ (even with a good vid card). If you mean half-life 1, then its a different matter.

06-16-2008, 05:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
kalv Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 101 OS: xp	Re: FPS range to wide im talking about half life 1

06-18-2008, 10:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
af3 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,179 OS: XP SP3 & PCLinuxOS Gnome My System	Re: FPS range to wide The only thing you can do is lower the game's graphics settings and hope it helps. I used to have a Radeon x1600 Pro, and transparent objects on the desktop would dramatically affect the frame rate of my games. The solution to this was to take care of all the little bubbles coming out of my systray telling me about automatic updates. You could also set windows to performance mode, disabling all the GUI visual effects.

06-18-2008, 08:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
kalv Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 101 OS: xp	Re: FPS range to wide all the video settings are on low and nothing in the background is running except an anti virus and i tried turning that off but no success.

06-19-2008, 06:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
af3 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,179 OS: XP SP3 & PCLinuxOS Gnome My System	Re: FPS range to wide Do the fans make more noise when the FPS drops? Maybe things are running too hot. You could also have a weak PSU/power box. If your computer's PSU can't supply enough juice to the hardware you have installed, things will slow down like you describe. All I can suggest is update the drivers, get a better PSU, or even replace the video card. Last edited by af3; 06-19-2008 at 06:12 AM.

06-19-2008, 11:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
beefers1 Below is my avatar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver area, BC, Canada Posts: 4,038 OS: Win XP Pro SP2 My System Blog Entries: 13	Re: FPS range to wide aren't there frame limiters in most games which prevents it from going over 25, 30, 50 or 60FPS? the x1650 is a more-than-decent card, but you can do with a bit more RAM. __________________

06-19-2008, 11:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
af3 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,179 OS: XP SP3 & PCLinuxOS Gnome My System	Re: FPS range to wide For example, I think Quake 4 caps the FPS at 60. Get the "SpeedFan" utility and take a look at it's temp readouts. It will have a flame icon near a reading that is too high. http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php Last edited by af3; 06-19-2008 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Added URL

06-19-2008, 12:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
beefers1 Below is my avatar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver area, BC, Canada Posts: 4,038 OS: Win XP Pro SP2 My System Blog Entries: 13	Re: FPS range to wide one interesting thing is that GTA SA capped it at a mere 25FPS. so sometimes the game was choppy enough that i had to disable it. but in most cases, enabling a frame limiter is a very good idea. __________________

06-19-2008, 12:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
af3 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,179 OS: XP SP3 & PCLinuxOS Gnome My System	Re: FPS range to wide Maybe that had something to do with their original target console. (PS2) It appears to be a "straight port" of the game to PC, or an emulated version for the PC. (In my opinion) GTA2 also had a frame limiter. I remember when I bought my first nVidia card, and the cars were flying across the screen so fast that they were motion blurs! SA:MP is fun too by the way. Last edited by af3; 06-19-2008 at 12:15 PM.

06-19-2008, 12:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
beefers1 Below is my avatar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver area, BC, Canada Posts: 4,038 OS: Win XP Pro SP2 My System Blog Entries: 13	Re: FPS range to wide the gameplay was exactly the same, but the graphics and sound were updated for the PC version. and the controls too. The most i've hit without frame limiter is about 80 so it's not too bad, even a lot smoother. __________________

07-29-2008, 12:17 AM	#13 (permalink)
kalv Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 101 OS: xp	Re: FPS range to wide my computer is really basic. I have very few things running and I disabled alot of services. So virtually im only running system services that are essential. There is no bubble that comes from the system tray. I think its a video card probably cause when my game starts to stutter my mouse pointer is still very smooth but my game is still stuttering. Last edited by kalv; 07-29-2008 at 12:23 AM.

07-29-2008, 06:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
af3 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,179 OS: XP SP3 & PCLinuxOS Gnome My System	Re: FPS range to wide Yeah, the X1650PRO had plenty of glitches. My brother still uses it, but he has to run it on lower settings for stability in some games. What's PRO about it?