[SOLVED] Freeze (Crash) after around 2-3hrs playing...

[koala]

Sorry about the link. Try http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en or http://www.filehippo.com/download_directx/tech/

You just need to close down all programs and run the install exe, then reboot to complete.

[d_animality]

okay heres what i can get the best so far.. many actions bombing and etc.... kinda worries about the CPU temps... never have i seen such... the readings also shows fire even when the computer idle.. is that normal in SpeedFan ? cause ive been having so much software reading the temps... some as u can see the attached pics.. hope this helps telling anything~~!!

oh btw thx for your new link...

[koala]

Your +12V is showing as only 8.5V. This could be a false reading because if it was really that low the computer would have trouble even starting. Confirm with another system monitor ( Everest, SensorsView or SpeedFan) during gameplay.

The Core/CPU temperatures of 54/68/77C mean your CPU is overheating. Replace the thermal paste with a small amount of Arctic Silver and make sure the heatsink is firmly attached and all your case fans are spinning.

Your 8800GTS GPU Core temp of 55C is ok for under stress.

Check in BIOS to see if you can increase the CPU and AUX4 fan speeds.

[d_animality]

well.. ive installed the directx9 already.... so is that telling that the HWMonitor and Abit Uguru tells false reading in CPU temps? actually ive changed the paste already with arctic silver...ive followed the guidelines from the artic silver web regarding how to apply it on quad core properly...maybe ive done a mistake so r u suggesting that i should open the heatsink again and then clean the paste and reapply it again? ... well actually im using zalman cooler and it runs at 90% on 2700+ rpm... wow... this is really frustrating.. im afraid if i again mistakenly reapply the thermal paste...

oh btw.. im using alcohol to clean the paste.. ive cleaning easily the stock zalman paste.... i dont know this artic silver 5.. is it also easy to clean it?

[d_animality]

oh ive downloaded everest.... what info do u want me to get from it...??

[d_animality]

okay heres i give another attachment... surely theres some difference in reading ... so do u think i change the thermal paste again or what? sorry if i took much of your tym...is by using alcohol can remove the artic silver easily??

[d_animality]

still wondering about the reading.... it even reach 106C just when i open the firefox.. then it go down back to normal... is the reading really correct?

the attached pic shows the reading when im double clicking my computer icons...

[koala]

With such a variety of +12V readings, from 8V to 14V, your PSU could be contributing to the crashes and overheating CPU. Can you borrow a known-good 650W PSU to test in your computer? Yours might need replacing.

Any time you remove the heatsink, you must replace the thermal paste. From the Arctic Silver instructions.....

6) Removal from Hardware

Arctic Silver thermal compound can easily be removed from hardware using the proper cleaners and tools: For general clean up, a cloth or paper towel will work well. Intricate cleaning can be accomplished with Q-tip swabs. An old toothbrush can often get the compound out of crevices that other tools cannot reach.

CPU Core: For optimum cleaning use ArctiClean 1 and 2. For adequate cleaning use high-purity isopropyl alcohol or acetone and a bit of careful rubbing. Do not use nail polish remover as it contains fragrance oils and other contaminants. (If you use acetone, do a final cleaning with high-purity isopropyl alcohol.)

Heatsink: For optimum cleaning use ArctiClean 1 and 2. For adequate cleaning use a xylene based cleaner, (Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) or high-purity isopropyl alcohol. If you use Goof off or xylene based cleaners always follow up with a cleaning of high-purity isopropyl alcohol afterwards.

CPU Ceramic: Use any of the following cleaners: ArctiClean 1 and 2. Any dish detergent. (Dawn, Lux, Palmolive, Etc.) Do not use soap for an automatic dishwasher to clean a CPU. WD-40, citrus based cleaners. Xylene based products. (Goof Off, some carburetor cleaners and many brake cleaners.) Mineral spirits. (Be careful to keep the mineral spirits away from the core.) Once the majority of the compound has been removed from the ceramic, small patches remaining on the ceramic can be 'erased' with a soft eraser.

If you use any of the suggested products besides ArctiClean 1 and 2 to remove Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound from the CPU ceramic or heatsink base, always do a final cleaning with isopropyl alcohol to remove any residue from the cleaner.

[d_animality]

With such a variety of +12V readings, from 8V to 14V, your PSU could be contributing to the crashes and overheating CPU. Can you borrow a known-good 650W PSU to test in your computer? Yours might need replacing. <<< well sadly, i dont have anyone to borrow to... hmm...r u sure that my PSU causing the probs... ill try to reapply the paste first and see how it turns out... thx for ur tym koala

EDIT: btw.. is applying thick surface of artic silver can cause the problem? cause if im not mistaken.. my friends put slightly thick horizontal of artic silver 5 to the heatspreader.. hoping that if we put the heatsink directly, it will "splat" and covered the whole area...is this wrong n cause the heat? if so mybe we will do cleaning and reapply a thin horizontal line to it...

[d_animality]

this is new reading from everest.. http://www.techsupportforum.com/atta...at-everest.jpg

[d_animality]

oh and tell you one thing.. just now i played COD4... it seems a bit lag a bit...but i can feel the lag...i think its due to the directx9 uve asked me to install..well basically ive run the 2 tests and theyve passed but now the game experience is a lag... i know its lag not due to connection cause everything was really fine but the movement was a bit slow sometimes here and there... so what should i do... any recommend directx to try... maybe the older but nice version or etc..thanx

[koala]

Originally Posted by d_animality

is applying thick surface of artic silver can cause the problem? cause if im not mistaken.. my friends put slightly thick horizontal of artic silver 5 to the heatspreader.. hoping that if we put the heatsink directly, it will "splat" and covered the whole area...is this wrong n cause the heat?

Tell your friend to read the instructions. His method is as bad as having no thermal paste at all, and can lead to overheating and permanent damage.

You need to apply a tiny amount of Arctic Silver, then spread it over the CPU until you can barely see it. The purpose of this is to fill in the microscopic grooves on the CPU to allow better surface contact between the CPU and heatsink.

Installing the latest DirectX won't slow down your games. Did you reboot after installing? How much free hard drive space is there, and have you defragged recently?

Your last Everest screenshot shows no problems with the temperatures and voltages if it was taken during gameplay. If that was the only one you'd posted, I'd say your PSU and cooling system were working fine.

[d_animality]

Originally Posted by koala

You need to apply a tiny amount of Arctic Silver, then spread it over the CPU until you can barely see it. The purpose of this is to fill in the microscopic grooves on the CPU to allow better surface contact between the CPU and heatsink.

so r u saying that i should reopen n reapply the thermal paste? regarding the tiny and spreading..ive read the AS5 article as you give link... for quad core... it should be a thin horizontal line and dont have to spread... just put the heatsink directly above it so that it will spread by itself just like a pancake... this is what im going to do next... correct me if im wrong.. thanx...

about the everest.. the readings are far away different from speedfan.. even when im playing games.. never it reaches more than 100C.. not even 50C...

[d_animality]

well... ive discovered that the directx cause me some slow downs in my game experience.. the space of hard drive still lots.. and yes i always do defragmenting

[d_animality]

and worst koala.. i tried to install the directx youve asked (mar 08) and it failed... ive to create a new thread for it for others opinion and ways on how to solve it ... please help me ... im running out of ideas and i dont know how to do with my PC next (hopefully dun want to format it) --> http://www.techsupportforum.com/gami...blem-help.html

[pharoah]

when putting on thermal paste you want as thin a layer as possible.spread it evenly over the entire top of the cpu.what i find strange is one core of that cpu is alot hotter than the other 3 cores.what cpu cooler are you using?id inspect the cooler to see if its perfectly flat or not.if not you may need to lap it.