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Old 10-10-2007, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[SOLVED] PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

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Ive got fear recently and installed it and everything looked fine... but when i was playing it after about 10 min the computer suddenly shuts down..... i dont know why this happens, i have command and conquer 3 and it works perfectly....

i have centrino intel core 2 duo 1.83 ghz proccesor, 1 gb ram, 256 video card, Geforce 7600

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Old 10-10-2007, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

fear is way harder on hardware than c&c.it could be a heat problem.try speedfan post back the temps under both idle,and load.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

okay here are the results:

HD0: 45C
Temp1: 62C
Temp2: 65C
Core 0: 42C
Core 1: 43C
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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those are some fairly high temps.do you have any idea what the video card temp is?
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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no i dont... how do i know the video card temp??
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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you can use ntune it comes with a program called nvidia monitor.that can read your video card temps.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

all rite ill download it...
but i was just wondering if there is any way i could lower these temperatures so i could play fear... and also is there like a possibility that my laptop could melt or get messed up..

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yeah you could always get a laptop cooling pad
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Re: PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

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all rite ill download it...
but i was just wondering if there is any way i could lower these temperatures so i could play fear... and also is there like a possibility that my laptop could melt or get messed up..

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Be very careful with this. If something goes, ur in for a big headache on a laptop. Getting a laptop cooler is a top priority, helped me out. Turn down the specs on the game to the lowest and see if it shuts off. I know on my laptop it would get scorching hot when I would play painkiller or doom 3. Never had it shut off though. Might want to get your receipts ready....
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Be very careful with this. If something goes, ur in for a big headache on a laptop. Getting a laptop cooler is a top priority, helped me out. Turn down the specs on the game to the lowest and see if it shuts off. I know on my laptop it would get scorching hot when I would play painkiller or doom 3. Never had it shut off though. Might want to get your receipts ready....
soo wat ur trying to say is that if i dont get the laptop cooler my laptop could get messed up.....
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i think thats exactly what he is saying.that computer is getting hot enough to force a shutdown.
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so should i just like stop playin fear until i get one of those laptop coolers..... but i could still use the laptop rite like without playing games....
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soo wat ur trying to say is that if i dont get the laptop cooler my laptop could get messed up.....
The laptop cooler will help the air flow underneath the laptop a bit, it will also lift the laptop off the surface a bit so that the laptops fans can get better airflow. It should help a bit, but it's not exactly water cooling lol.
I'm a big FEAR fan and the game is definitely gonna eat up your system specs pretty quick. you are probably running on medium settings with most eye candy turned off right? If it's just this game that this happens then yeah I'd say it's overheating, if it is happening at other times, then you're gonna need a new thread so the techs on here can figure it out.


fear system specs:
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# Intel or AMD class 1.7 GHz or equivelant CPU.
# 512MB of RAM
# 64MB DirectX 8 class ATi or nVidia graphics card
# Monitor that can display in 4:3 aspect ratio
# 5.0GB free hard disk drive space, and an additional page swap file and saved game files.
# 4x CD-ROM, DVD-ROM drive for Special Director's Edition.
# 16-bit DirectX 9 compliant sound card with support for EAX 2.0
# Broadband or LAN internet connection for multiplayer.
# Mouse.
# Keyboard.

Recommended:

# Intel or AMD class 3.0 GHz CPU or better.
# 1GB of RAM or more.
# 256MB DirectX 9 Shader Model 2.0 supporting ATi or nVidia graphics card or better.


I don't know what else to say about this, power supply maybe?

Hope that helps! Cheers and good luck!

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so should i just like stop playin fear until i get one of those laptop coolers..... but i could still use the laptop rite like without playing games....
using the laptop is no problemo, if this is just a FEAR issue. But if it's occuring at other times then it might not really matter.

but yeah I'd get that laptop cooler before you start fragging again. Keeping the components cool will extend the lifetime of your lappy and keep you happy.

And lookin at that link to the newegg laptop coolers, I have the vantec. And it is really good, has lasted me 4 years now. I even uped the voltage on it's fans a few times bwahahahaha, and it is still tickin. Definitely lowers my temps all around. I can't game without it, even though it's useless now for gaming lol (9700 ati mobile).
Another thing I did to cool my laptop down was remove my keyboard and buy a seperate usb keyboard. After removing my laptops keyboard I put two big fans where the keyboard was. Kept everything really cool. Of course the only reason I did this was cause my keyboard mobo controller went the way of the dinosaur. But you could also try putting the fans on top of the keys, since removing the keyboard is kinda and will void warranties and such. They are 2 80 mm fans hooked up to an old power supply.

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The laptop cooler will help the air flow underneath the laptop a bit, it will also lift the laptop off the surface a bit so that the laptops fans can get better airflow. It should help a bit, but it's not exactly water cooling lol.
I'm a big FEAR fan and the game is definitely gonna eat up your system specs pretty quick. you are probably running on medium settings with most eye candy turned off right? If it's just this game that this happens then yeah I'd say it's overheating, if it is happening at other times, then you're gonna need a new thread so the techs on here can figure it out.


fear system specs:
Minimum:

# Intel or AMD class 1.7 GHz or equivelant CPU.
# 512MB of RAM
# 64MB DirectX 8 class ATi or nVidia graphics card
# Monitor that can display in 4:3 aspect ratio
# 5.0GB free hard disk drive space, and an additional page swap file and saved game files.
# 4x CD-ROM, DVD-ROM drive for Special Director's Edition.
# 16-bit DirectX 9 compliant sound card with support for EAX 2.0
# Broadband or LAN internet connection for multiplayer.
# Mouse.
# Keyboard.

Recommended:

# Intel or AMD class 3.0 GHz CPU or better.
# 1GB of RAM or more.
# 256MB DirectX 9 Shader Model 2.0 supporting ATi or nVidia graphics card or better.


I don't know what else to say about this, power supply maybe?

Hope that helps! Cheers and good luck!
thanks... it does help

ya i am playin on medium specs... and it does only happen in this game.. ill get the cooler and check out if the game works then...
thanks
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Re: PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

hey,

i closed my computer for quite some time now.... i then opened it and left it for about 20 min and here are the new temp results

HD0: 35C
Temp1: 47C
Temp2: 51C
Core 0: 35C
core 1: 36C

now can i test the game out.... or will it just heat up again
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those temps seem good to me. I would also give a program called speedfan a try. Google "Speedfan 4.33 download". It gives temps also. Just to compare. I'm afraid that the game will just shoot the tempetures up to super hot again. Cooling will help this out in my opinion. It's probably your processor that is overheating and causeing the shutdown, a laptop cooler should help keep it at a stable enough temp to keep it from shutting down. This doesn't mean that running the proc. at a high temp for a long time while gaming won't wear the little guy down and maybe cut its lifetime in half though...keep that in mind. That's why I don't like laptops for gaming...too hard to cool (unless you go nuts and take it apart...then it's usefullness as a laptop is gone).

Can anyone tell me if Temp1 and 2 are those ambient tempetures inside the laptop??
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On low details does the problem still happen? You only have 1gb of RAM but probably only 700mb free... because of your OS. So with FEAR on medium settings then you are at about 700mb usage... causing your problem.

To prove overheating is not the problem, when it turns off... attempt to turn it back on IMMEDIATELY, if it turns on with no problem... then it is a RAM issue.

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I have run into a few overheating issues on some laptops before.. heck my last two died due to overheating issues.

Try and blow out any of the fans & vents on it best you can to get rid of any dust that will block airflow for the internal fans. A laptop cooling mat is a good idea too, it will pull the air away from under where the heat issue is.

I know on my current laptop (bout 2 years old now) will overheat when i am playing a 3d game (like WoW or something) but ONLY when the laptop is flat on the desk, there is still room for airflow under, but obviously not enough. I use my USB hub as a riser on the back, keeps it off the desktop completely, and havent had an overheating issue since. :)
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Re: PC suddenly shuts down when playing FEAR

i dont think its a RAM issue, because when it shuts down i have to wait for a while until i could open it back again..... its not like this happens alot its the first time and it only happened when playing fear, so im sure its a overheating issue...
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i dont think its a RAM issue, because when it shuts down i have to wait for a while until i could open it back again..... its not like this happens alot its the first time and it only happened when playing fear, so im sure its a overheating issue...
OK mate, that is what I was looking for... we are now 110% sure it is overheating.

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